Michael Jackson dies at age 50 from cardiac arrest

[olivia]

Originally Posted by czb

i have a friend who is black. her eyes are light brown, she has freckles (which i'm sure jayla would consider a blemish) and very straight, unprocessed hair. i think people who are considered 'black' can have features that run the gamut.

Again, true enough. But for 3 children not to share a single feature with their supposed father - doesn't that seem weird?

Look at the young picture of MJ again. They don't have his hair, or complexion, or smile or nose or chin. I *might* see MJ's eyes in Blanket - but they're just big round dark brown eyes. Lot's of people have them.

[RevellingInSane]

Originally Posted by olivia

that's true. But not a one with kinky or very curly hair? Not likely. At least one of them would have dark, very kinky hair more like MJ's. It's the dominant gene, like brown eyes.

Look at Heidi Klum's sons. Both have Seals kinky hair in a lighter shade.

Halle Berry's daughter has very curly hair, almost kinky. She is only one quarter African American.

Garcelle Beauvais-Nilon has a very blond son, but his hair is kinky.

None of MJ's kids has kinky or curly hair. Paris has wavy hair but the shaft is essentially straight.

Those kids aren't his blood. They look nothing like the Jacksons.

Not necessarily. While kinky hair may, or may not be the dominant gene, you have to keep in mind, all it takes is one ancestor on each side with the recessive gene to change the face of the offspring. While odds are, admittedly, against this, each child is a clean slate and would have the same odds as every other child produced by the pair. The odds of them all looking as these kids do would be high, but, genetically possible.

We also can no say with certainty what alterations these kids may or may not have had, such as thermal reconditioning or chemical straightening.

Genetics is a fun roll of the dice.

[McJag]

Originally Posted by *DIVA!

Silicone?

I was thinking more silly-putty...

[czb]

Originally Posted by olivia

Again, true enough. But for 3 children not to share a single feature with their supposed father - doesn't that seem weird?

Look at the young picture of MJ again. They don't have his hair, or complexion, or smile or nose or chin. I *might* see MJ's eyes in Blanket - but they're just big round dark brown eyes. Lot's of people have them.

look, i'm not a geneticist. i thought that the two older ones look somewhat like MJ but it's hard for me to tell. it sometimes occurs that a child looks very much like one of the parents but not always. sometimes it is due to a donor, as sluce suggested, and sometimes it is due to the mix of genes and they look like an ancestor further back.

[Trixie]

Originally Posted by RevellingInSane

We also can no say with certainty what alterations these kids may or may not have had, such as thermal reconditioning or chemical straightening.

Very true, and not so far-fetched when you consider he dyed the oldest boy's hair platinum blond as a baby.

[ArmyWifey]

Are we really going to argue about the paternity of these kids for another 12 pages? I personally could care less-I know one thing for sure either they are or aren't and either way who cares...

[McJag]

Well. It is kinda fun.

[Deutsche]

I thought that this was a beautiful statement from someone posting over Daily Mail responding to that rumors,

Their father was Michael Jackson, as stated by Paris.

The father who raised them was Michael Jackson.

The father who they called Daddy was Michael Jackson.

The father who protected them was Michael Jackson and until the day they die, the father they will mourn will be Michael Jackson.

As so many media stories remind us on a daily basis, sperm alsone doth not make a father!

[GaPeach]

VIDEO: Michael Jackson's Changing Face - Tributes, Michael Jackson : People.com

I don't know if you've seen it but I thought I would share.

As for Michael raising his children, we do not know the quality of the job he did, dangling Blanket out the window, wearing masks, shaking like a leaf when he was trying to feed Blanket, naming your kid Blanket - I dunno he doesn't sound like a stellar Dad to me. btw anybody see any tears running down his daughters face b/c I didn't.

Joe is the biggest money ho and he gives me the creeps. Isn't he like a billion years old yet?

[Bellatheball]

LOS ANGELES, California (CNN) -- Singer Michael Jackson took more than 10 Xanax pills a night, asking his employees to get the prescription medicine under their names and also personally traveling to doctors' offices in other states to obtain them, said a confidential document from 2004 that CNN obtained Thursday.


Los Angeles detectives are waiting on the coroner's report on the death of Michael Jackson.

The document from the Santa Barbara County Sheriff's Department contains confidential interviews conducted with two of Jackson's former security guards as officials prepared for Jackson's child molestation trial in 2005.

The singer was acquitted after the 14-week trial. But the information about the pills, and the lengths Jackson went to get them, adds to a growing mountain of claims tying the insomniac singer to drugs in recent days.

According to the drug's Web site, Xanax is for the treatment of panic disorder.

Los Angeles Police Chief William Bratton said Thursday detectives have spoken to a number of doctors who have treated Jackson over the years, and are looking into the singer's prescription drug history.

Doctors who did not cooperate with investigators were issued subpoenas, a source told CNN Thursday. If needed, authorities will issue more, the source said.

Jackson died on June 25. Authorities are awaiting toxicology reports from the coroner's office to determine the exact cause of death.

"And based on those, we will have an idea of what it is we are dealing (with): are we dealing with a homicide or are we dealing with an accidental overdose?" Bratton said.

The speculation that prescription drugs, particularly sedatives, could have played a role in Jackson's death keeps coming up with each new nugget of information -- and there have been many.

The Jackson family knows that the probe into his death can turn into a criminal case, a source close to the family told CNN on Thursday.

"The family is aware of a potential criminal prosecution," said the source, who did not want to be identified.

The amount of Xanax that Jackson allegedly took surprised CNN chief medical correspondent Sanjay Gupta.

In addiction cases, people develop a tolerance to drugs and have to take more and more pills, Gupta said.

"No matter how you cut it, this is an extremely high dosage of Xanax," Gupta said. "It is a huge red flag, even with the tolerance that I was talking about. This dosage is exceedingly high for any human being."
Jackson's attempt to battle sleep disorder

The 2004 document details a dark picture of Jackson's attempts to battle his sleeping disorder.

One security guard that sheriff's deputies interviewed said he expressed his concern about Jackson's use of 10-plus pills a night to another staffer.

The second staffer replied: "Jackson was doing better because he was down from 30 to 40 Xanax pills a night," according to the document.

One of the guards said he and three other employees would get prescriptions for Jackson under their names.

The second guard backed up the claim, saying he had picked up medicines for the singer that were in other people's names.

The document contains the names of five doctors -- some in California, some in New York and Florida. It was not immediately clear whether police have spoken to them as part of their investigation into Jackson's death.

After the doctor visits, Jackson would be "out of it and sedated," one guard said.

According to the sheriff's office document, the guard who provided the bulk of the information quit his job after Jackson "fell on his face" in a hotel room and hurt himself. The employee told Jackson he was not comfortable getting prescriptions for him and left, he later told investigators.

Years later in 2006, Jackson was in Las Vegas, Nevada, trying to jump-start his career. Deal-maker Jack Wishna, who was helping the singer land a long-running show in Vegas, told CNN the singer would appear "drugged up" and "incoherent" -- often so weak and emaciated he had to use a wheelchair to get around.

The comeback shows were canceled because of Jackson's condition, Wishna said.

Around that time, sister Janet Jackson was so worried about Jackson that she tried to stage an intervention with assistance from her other brothers, two sources close to the Jackson family told CNN Wednesday.

Jackson reportedly ordered his security guards not to let the family members in. He also refused to take calls from his mother, Katherine, CNN has learned.

At the time, the Jackson family released a statement to People magazine denying the alleged intervention. But Janet Jackson was not among the signatories.

Along with the police investigation, which is being aided by the state attorney general's office and the Drug Enforcement Administration, the Los Angeles County coroner's office has also drawn up a list of Jackson's doctors and is trying to talk to them to determine what drugs they may have prescribed him.

Among them are Dr. Arnold Klein, Jackson's dermatologist, and Dr. Conrad Murray, his cardiologist.

Klein told CNN Wednesday that Jackson was addicted to drugs at one point but had kicked the habit.

Murray, who has been interviewed by police, has repeatedly said he will withhold comment until the coroner's tests are back.

Among others who have indicated that Jackson may have been using dangerous prescription medication are a nutritionist, Cherilyn Lee, who said Jackson pleaded for Diprivan despite being told of its harmful effects.

Sources close to Jackson told CNN that the insomniac singer traveled with an anesthesiologist who would "take him down" at night and "bring him back up" during a world tour in the mid-90s.

Another source involved with the probe told CNN that investigators found numerous bottles of prescription drugs in the singer's $100,000-a-month rented mansion in Holmby Hills.

The Associated Press and the Los Angeles Times, citing unnamed sources, said police found Diprivan.

Diprivan is a powerful sedative that is administered intravenously and is known by its generic name Propofol.

Source: CNN

[Trixie]

Originally Posted by ArmyWifey

Are we really going to argue about the paternity of these kids for another 12 pages? I personally could care less-I know one thing for sure either they are or aren't and either way who cares...

This thread's currently at 332 pages....what's another 12? Or 15? Or 20?

[pookie207]

Originally Posted by BITTER

Thank you! North Americans of African descent have so many different bloodlines other than African, nothing surprises me.

Look at Victoria Rowell's crotchfruit. Victoria herself is the product of a white mom and black dad. Her daughter, Maya, is the product from her first marriage to a Scottish-American man. Her son is the result of her relationship with musician Wynton Marsalis.

I remember an article in People or something where Victoria stated people would take a look at her and then look at her tow head baby daughter and asked her if she was the nanny.

[pookie207]

Originally Posted by levitt

I think the two boys actually look like him.

Really? Which version?

[Abbey Normal]

Guess he really solved his insomnia problem.

[MrsMarsters]

Maybe he was a good father, however he sure as hell only showcased himself doing stupid shit...