Michael Jackson dies at age 50 from cardiac arrest

[JadeStar70]

^^and none of them were black men. I thought James Brown was his idol? Who is the last guy on the right? And who is the guy beside Einstein?

[celeb_2006]

Originally Posted by Jexxifer

Who is the last one on the right?

Little Richard??

Who are the ones right next to him?

I didn't know about this painting, very full of himself!

[Jexxifer]

Originally Posted by JadeStar70

^^and none of them were black men. I thought James Brown was his idol? Who is the last guy on the right? And who is the guy beside Einstein?

The one besides Einstein is Thomas Edison.

[angelais]

On our right it is Walt Disney, Charlie Chaplin, Elvis and the last one, I'm not sure.
On our left is Einstein, Edison, Kennedy and Lincoln.

[JadeStar70]

There is Lincoln, Kennedy, Walt Disney, Chaplin, Einstein and Evis. Not sure who the last white guy on the right is,...or the guy by Einstein.


Edit: oops...sorry. posting at same time.

[A*O]

Far right is either Little Richard or James Brown. I'm leaning towards Little Richard because of the hair and tache.
Next to Einstein is Thomas Edison.

[celeb_2006]

Leandro Lapagesse, 27, of Rio De Janeiro, Brazil, shows off his tattoo near the gates of the late Michael Jackson's former residence, Neverland Ranch, in Los Olivos, Calif., Saturday, July 4, 2009.
(AP Photo/Rick Bowmer)


A Michael Jackson look-alike is kissed by a fan during a tribute to the late pop icon in Brussels July 4, 2009. Jackson, the child star turned King of Pop who set the world dancing but whose musical genius was overshadowed by a bizarre lifestyle and sex scandals, died on June 25. He was 50.
REUTERS/Sebastien Pirlet (BELGIUM ENTERTAINMENT OBITUARY SOCIETY)


Sister Kiria (R) and her sister Shira hold posters of Michael Jackson during a memorial ceremony for the late pop icon at the Rathausbruecke bridge in Zurich July 4, 2009. The poster (R) reads, "For us you are immortal". Jackson, the child star turned King of Pop who set the world dancing but whose musical genius was overshadowed by a bizarre lifestyle and sex scandals, died on June 25. He was 50.
REUTERS/Arnd Wiegmann (SWITZERLAND) ENTERTAINMENT OBITUARY)

[BITTER]

Originally Posted by celeb_2006

Leandro Lapagesse, 27, of Rio De Janeiro, Brazil, shows off his tattoo near the gates of the late Michael Jackson's former residence, Neverland Ranch, in Los Olivos, Calif., Saturday, July 4, 2009.
(AP Photo/Rick Bowmer)


A Michael Jackson look-alike is kissed by a fan during a tribute to the late pop icon in Brussels July 4, 2009. Jackson, the child star turned King of Pop who set the world dancing but whose musical genius was overshadowed by a bizarre lifestyle and sex scandals, died on June 25. He was 50.
REUTERS/Sebastien Pirlet (BELGIUM ENTERTAINMENT OBITUARY SOCIETY)


Sister Kiria (R) and her sister Shira hold posters of Michael Jackson during a memorial ceremony for the late pop icon at the Rathausbruecke bridge in Zurich July 4, 2009. The poster (R) reads, "For us you are immortal". Jackson, the child star turned King of Pop who set the world dancing but whose musical genius was overshadowed by a bizarre lifestyle and sex scandals, died on June 25. He was 50.
REUTERS/Arnd Wiegmann (SWITZERLAND) ENTERTAINMENT OBITUARY)

FREAKS.

[twitchy2.0]

Michael Jackson: Bad! And very dangerous

This week, the news has been dominated by Michael Jackson. But, in this highly provocative article, the author and former music industry executive John Niven questions the adulation of the 'King of Pop', given the allegations of child abuse that emerged in recent years


Michael Jackson was thrilling in his prime - but has recent coverage acknowledged the darker side of his story?
The barrage of utterly inane celebrity tributes ("inspirational", "a true hero", "a genius", "a gentle soul" "a treasure") was to be expected. The howling fans across the world, broken and gibbering nonsense for the rolling TV news crews ("he ... he died for all of us" etc), the inevitable autopsy results in a few weeks, with their Swiss laboratory inventory of prescription tranquilisers, all this too is standard operating procedure.

What has stunned me and truly floored me in the past week or so has been the complete sidelining by the entire media of Jackson's later life. Across the board, from every news channel to all the quality papers, there has been wholesale collusion in the notion that "he was a great artist and, yes, there was some, umm, troubling stuff later on, but let's forget all that right now and just celebrate the music".

Hang on a minute. I'm not the kind of person to start Paedogeddon-style witch-hunts gratuitously, but ... I thought I'd find some real analysis of the "troubling stuff" somewhere. But here's what we're getting: "Another beautiful boy is gone, wiped out in an instant." This was Germaine Greer in The Guardian. She made no mention at all of the multiple accusations of child abuse levelled at Jackson (although she was unintentionally hilarious when she wrote of his art no longer being fuelled by his ability to "run with the kids on the block". Uh, Germaine, love, they'd be more likely to be running away from him). Rather, she went on to wax lyrical about Dionysus and Orpheus and how we should "salute this miraculous boy who will triumph over death ... becoming immortal through his art". Well, the ancient Greeks were certainly a culture that would have sympathised with some aspects of Jackson's life.
Then there was the editorial in The Independent last Saturday which (almost reluctantly) allowed that there were "most damaging of all, the accusations of child abuse", before going on to say that "what will remain in people's minds long after memories of his sad fall have vanished" – and this "sad fall" is priceless, suggesting something tragic and completely beyond Jackson's control – "is how thrilling he was as a performer in his effervescent pomp". There are at least several young men alive today who I am sure have very different memories of what it was to be caught in Michael Jackson's force field at the height of his "effervescent pomp". I have a feeling we might be hearing from some of them in the coming weeks.

He was acquitted, we are reminded. Well, like many people in our post-OJ, post-Tyson world, I am not inclined to treat the acquittal of a celebrity with a billion-dollar legal team behind him by a Californian court as a gold-plated get-out-of-jail-free card.

But on the rolling news channels and in the print media in the days following the death perhaps a certain level of inanity was to be expected. So it was with an almost purring sense of relief that I tuned into Newsnight Review last week: good old BBC2. Kirsty Wark, Paul Morley, Miranda Sawyer fer Chrissakes. Now here would be an island of sanity, where the disgrace (let me repeat, not the "troubling stuff") would be mercilessly exposed and dissected. Over the next half-hour my jaw gradually dangled floorwards as we were treated to banal, celebratory fluff that made The Sun's tribute look like the work of Woodward and Bernstein on a particularly feverish night. Paul Morley said things like: "That's his genius – reinvention.... He was an amazing science fiction creation." Kirsty Wark called him "unique". Miranda Sawyer nodded a lot.

Then there was the playwright and singer Kwame Kwei Armah, who trotted out the old chestnut about how we must "separate the art from the artist" before going on to talk about how there was "Michael the artist and then there was Michael the celebrity with ... with all the, the attendant problems that came with it".

He went on to say, unchallenged, how there were different Michaels and that he wanted to remember "the Michael who made Thriller and Off the Wall". There were also, presumably, different Hitlers. Some people might like to remember the Hitler who reunited Germany and brought back full employment. Not the later Hitlers, with their "attendant problems". The problem is that people keep on bringing up all the bloody stuff that these other later, more troublesome, Hitlers did. You can probably make a claim for several different Peter Sutcliffes, one of whom was a model employee who was very nice to his mother. The problem is....

Another Newsnight guest called Jacqueline Springer picked up on the "different Michaels" point and ran out of the park with it. She talked about the concept of a "cookie-cutter Michael": you simply "take the bits you want and remember them". Aww diddums. Lovely. I'll take the songwriter and the dancer and just leave the paedophile thanks very much!

Finally, Kirsty Wark spoke up. Here we go, I thought. "So you wouldn't choose to remember the Michael who – say – dangled his baby off a window ledge." Wow. Nailed him there, Kirsty. Much has been made of this (of course idiotic) bit of horseplay, but, truth, you see fathers taking greater risks with their kids in London everyday as they whizz along with their children perched precariously on bicycles.

Less of them, I imagine, fill kids full of booze, get them to watch online pornography and then offer to show them how to masturbate. I'd have thought the latter scenario more worthy of examination. To go back to the Nazi analogy: our Kirsty, having the chance to bring up the concentration camps, cuts in with a reference to one of the other pesky Hitlers dishonouring the Nazi/Soviet pact.

And this was Newsnight. I wanted to weep.

At this point let me state my own position baldly: I believe that, at least in his later life, Michael Jackson was an active, predatory paedophile. (In terms of focusing on this I seem to be in the minority: Google "Jackson death" and you'll get something like 65 million hits. Google "Jackson paedophile" and you'll get around 150,000.)

I am very familiar with the argument of separating the art from the artist – Philip Larkin was a compulsive masturbator with racist views who loved pornography. The poems were magisterial. Wagner was a boiling anti-Semite. The music is timeless. Now, having racist views, masturbating to pornography, I can guarantee that everyone reading this paper has had some contact with practitioners of these dark arts. I would not venture that everyone is on handshake terms with people who get little boys drunk and then try to abuse them – I'm afraid I can't embrace the good tunes and overlook the "troubling stuff" and the "attendant problems" just yet.

Anyone with me? Anyone else fancy a refresher course on the kind of man Michael Jackson really was? Good. Let's go back a few years....
"The accuser, now 15, remarked that 'Sometimes Michael would also give wine' to the New Jersey siblings ... which Jackson called 'Jesus Juice'." As a novelist you know a linguistic bullseye when you see it and "Jesus Juice" is just too good. It is exactly what a quasi-religious paedophile would call wine he has transferred to a Coke can and is trying to get a child to drink. When I heard that detail during the trial it literally stopped me in my tracks.

Jordy Chandler, Jackson's first accuser, gave detectives a detailed description of Jackson's genital area, including distinctive "splotches" on his buttocks and one on his penis. The boy's information was so accurate he was able to locate where the splotch moved to when Jackson's penis became erect and the fact that he was circumcised. Jackson was brought in and his genitals duly photographed. Soon after this shoot (surely one of the stranger photo sessions endured by the singer) was matched up to Chandler's description, Jackson suddenly agreed to settle Chandler's civil claim out of court for somewhere north of $20m (£12.2m).

At this juncture, some details recounted in the affidavit of Gavin Arvizo, Jackson's second accuser, are also worth remembering: "Jackson told him [Arvizo] that boys have to masturbate or they go crazy, and related a story about a boy who had sex with a dog. Jackson, he said, then told him he wanted to show him how to masturbate."

Again the writer in me responds strongly to the tawdry reality of the dialogue here. If you were going to make this stuff up this is exactly the tone you'd be shooting for: the childlike vocabulary and anecdote marshalled as supporting fact. It is just how you'd attempt to convince a child to do something.

Ultimately one is faced with two options. Either Jackson really was an innocent, a childlike man-boy who simply enjoyed hanging out with young boys, up to and including having them sleep in his bed ("There's nothing more loving you can do," he told Martin Bashir in the infamous 2003 documentary, while Arviso cuddled him adoringly), and that some of these children decided – in collusion with their money-grabbing parents – to take Jackson to the cleaners. Or Jackson was an active, predatory child molester.

Personally I believe the allegations are very real. Child sex experts will tell you the same thing over and over again: kids don't make this stuff up. For a 13-year-old, the thought of being forced to talk – in public, in detail – about sex acts is so abhorrent there isn't a cheque big enough that you could dangle. And what real concept of money does a 13-year-old have anyway?

Anyway, the eventual molestation trial was a freak show, with Arvizo's mother ending up on trial rather than Jackson, a terrible example of jurisprudence in which the prosecution just about proved that Jackson molested seemingly every little boy in Los Angeles except the one in the witness box.

Let us go down the Albert Goldman road for a moment. (And the parallels between Graceland and Neverland are expected and wholly unsurprising: it is what happens when incredible fame, fortune and near-limitless power are bestowed on young men with no real education and no intellectual interests. The pleasures of the inhabitants of the two mansions are near-identical: lying in bed, attended by lackeys, while you indulge your sensory pleasures: food, small boys, whatever.)

Let us picture what was, by all accounts – that of the staff, of the parents and siblings of various young accusers – this grown man's idea of a good time. We descend into the chilled, darkened bowels of Neverland, passing the Mickey Mouse posters, the discreet alarm systems (rigged to give advance warning of anyone approaching his chambers), we punch in the keypad security code required for access to the inner sanctum and we find the King of Pop: he lies on an enormous bed, numbed by opiates, smudged with wine or bourbon ("Jim Bean" one of the boys called it, a malapropism that might be charming in other circumstances) and surrounded by half-naked pre-pubescent boys.

A laptop is showing pornography, opened bottles of Pinot Noir and SKYY vodka are strewn around. Jackson is watching Disney's Fantasia over and over again, drifting off up to the ceiling as a wave of the Dilaudid or Demerol hits him. He cuddles the nearest boy. His newest, most special friend. The medical bag in the corner glistens darkly, filled with brown tubs of prescription candy and pre-loaded hypodermics. Man, sweet dreams for the King of Pop.

"Michael," an ex-adviser claims to have said to him once, "you're going to wind up in a lot of trouble. Why don't you stop all this stuff with the young boys?"

"I don't want to," Jackson replied.

His answer has the acrid whiff of the dismissiveness of the potentate, the emperor. It reeks of "I like not this news. Bring me some other news." Finally, thankfully, for Jackson there will be no more news of any kind.

The author is a writer and former A&R (artist and repertoire) man whose novel 'Kill Your Friends' tells the murky story of a young record industry executive during the Britpop era.
Michael Jackson: Bad! And very dangerous - Americas, World - The Independent

[Hazeleyed_Honey]

Originally Posted by nancydrew

I do not, and will never, understand the people taking up and making excuses for him, and actually fucking justifying his pedophilia, its actually quite sickening to me.

Who is?

I think it is whether it is divided, that people people he was guilty of child abuse allegations, and there are others who do not believe the allegations and consider him innocent. As I previously stated, at first I used to believe he was guilty in the first case, then years ago, I researched more deeply into the case and changed my opinion that he was not guilty. As for the second case, I came to form my opinion that he was also not guilty. I will stick to believe he was just a man with a Peter Pan complex that wanted to be a child himself and do child like things and that is why he surrounded himself with children, to take back that childhood.

Again,in the end,we can all for mour own opinions.But, it seems to be that over here, there tends to be a herd mentality and if anyone voices something different than the "popular" or general opinion of the board, then they must be crazy or just disillusioned people.

Are you implying that people who actually believe he never molested children and was innocent are justifying pedophilia????Not sure if that is what you are getting at.

[buttmunch]

^^I think if you're justifying his behavior you are justifying pedophilia.

Anyway, looks like the family fighting is heading towards public view, Jackson will be in full drag regalia, the kids won't be wearing masks, crazy stuff about the tickets....this article has it all, folks.

Michael Jackson’s manager has revealed the rift within the Jackson family over the tragic superstar’s funeral this week.

And he has disclosed that although he believed the singer was generally fit and healthy before his shock death, he had warned him about a sudden weight loss as the star worked hard to prepare for his marathon 50 concerts in London.

Business manager Dr Tohme Tohme said Jackson’s brothers and father Joe wanted a shrine for Michael at the Neverland Ranch but his mother and sisters vetoed the idea.

His brothers, the original Jackson Five, also wanted an open coffin funeral, similar to that of soul singer James Brown, and for the star to be driven through the streets so that mourners could throw flowers, as at Princess Diana’s funeral.

They had even ordered the same rare £15,000 gold-plated blue-velvet lined ‘Prometheus’-style coffin used for Brown’s funeral.

But their mother Katherine, 79, has overruled them, saying she felt an open coffin would be ‘ghoulish’ and harmful to Michael’s three children, of whom she has temporary legal guardianship.

A friend said: ‘The family is fiercely divided. You’ve got the brothers on one hand, who all want to perform and turn the funeral into a showbiz extravaganza and then you have Katherine on the other side who is a deeply religious woman and is determined that this won’t descend into a circus.’

Dr Tohme admitted he had backed the brothers Jackie, 58, Tito, 55, Jermaine, 54, and Marlon, 52, in the dispute. But he said Katherine and Michael’s sisters LaToya, 53, and Janet, 43, had shot down their plans.

Speaking exclusively to The Mail on Sunday, Dr Tohme said: ‘His brothers wanted the final resting place to be Neverland but the rest of the family didn’t want him there for some reason that’s not known to me.

‘I tried with some members of the family to provide Neverland as his resting place and to turn it into something. I believe Michael Jackson deserved to be in Neverland – a grand place like Neverland. He is the King of Pop and I think we will not see anyone like him in our lifetime.

‘But all his stuff is in storage and I am in control of it. It is Michael Jackson’s items and memorabilia and awards and hopefully we will put it on display in Neverland or whatever the family decide to do with it.’

Katherine is understood to have told Jackson’s long-term manager Frank DiLeo that she alone will make the final decision on all aspects of Tuesday’s funeral.

Mr DiLeo told a friend: ‘The brothers wanted Michael to be driven through the streets so fans could line up and throw flowers like they did with Princess Diana but Katherine has ruled that out.

‘She is the one who is pushing for a spiritual element to the funeral. If the brothers had their way, it would be the Jackson Five’s greatest performance. Or rather, the Jackson Four’s greatest performance.’

Michael’s body is now expected to be placed in a closed coffin on a raised plinth during the funeral service at the Staples Centre in Los Angeles on Tuesday. One of his trademark sequined gloves and a black fedora will be placed on top.

Katherine will decide whether Michael’s children Prince Michael, 12, Paris, 11, and seven-year-old Prince Michael II – known as ‘Blanket’ – will attend. If they are there then sources say they will not be wearing masks.

Dr Tohme, a Lebanese-born businessman, was with the Jackson family at the UCLA hospital when the star died. He became a friend to the family two years ago, after being brought in to help Michael save Neverland, in Santa Barbara, from repossession.
Forest Lawn Mortuary

Dr Tohme rejected the idea that Michael, 50, had died of natural causes amid evidence of the singer’s use of prescription drugs. He said: ‘He didn’t have a heart problem. A guy who dances for four hours a day has a heart attack? I will have a heart attack before him.’

Dr Tohme added that Jackson, rather than being left ill by rehearsals, had been reinvigorated by his forthcoming 50 concert tour and had revelled in his visit to London earlier this year to announce his gigs.

He said: ‘He was flabbergasted. The trip to London changed him, gave him so much confidence. I have never seen anything like it in my life. Never seen anyone mobbed like this. He was full of hope.’

But Dr Tohme revealed that just two days before his death he had warned Michael over his recent weight loss, although he believed the star was generally fit and healthy.

He said: ‘I spoke to him on the Wednesday before his death. I told him he looked to me a little too thin. He had lost some weight.

‘But he was working hard, he was dancing for four hours a day. He said he was fine.


‘Then on Thursday I got a call from a reporter asking if it was true that Michael had a heart attack. I didn’t know. I tried to call and nobody answered. I got calls from different media saying he was rushed to UCLA, so I went there.

'His kids, his mother, his sister were there, none of his brothers at that time. Later Jermaine came in with his wife. And Michael was gone.

‘The hospital staff had already told the family that he was dead.’

He added: ‘Nobody knows what happened. I saw the body and I will never forget it. Everybody was in shock, in tears. We didn’t really talk. All we did was hug and cry. That is what happened.’

He added that Jackson had finally come to rid himself of some of the quirks in his character that had plagued him in recent years.

‘When I first met him in Las Vegas, he was out of touch. Michael was secluded and retreating from everybody. It was just him and his kids. He used to use the wheelchair. I said, let’s get rid of this. You have to realise that you had to baby Michael Jackson. I wanted people to see him as a healthy human being.

‘But he was working. We put a stage in his house in Vegas because before he was practising in the local hotels. He was writing music, working with choreographers. And after we start talking to AEG for the London gigs, I decided Vegas was not the right place for Michael to stay at the time, especially for the children... it is very hot in the summer.

‘LA is where all the action is. I convinced him to move to LA and he took residence at the Bel Air Hotel for three months. Then I rented the house for him. Then we signed the deal with AEG and we went to London – him, his kids, and me – and stayed at the Lanesborough Hotel.’

An estimated one billion television viewers around the globe will see Michael’s funeral along with 17,500 family and friends packed into LA’s Staples Centre and an overflow crowd at the Nokia Theatre across the street.

Randy Phillips, the chief executive of AEG Live said he expected the funeral to be ‘reverential’.

‘Tuesday is not a show, it is a service. We want to hit the right note. It will be a celebration of his life but not a circus. Michael was more of a traditionalist than people realised and we are trying to keep this reverential and tasteful. It’s going to be beautiful,’ he said.

Diana Ross and Elizabeth Taylor have both confirmed they will attend and have been asked to give readings.

The service will include elements of the planned London O2 show. The dancers and musicians who were in the O2 show are likely to perform in front of a large screen showing a film montage of Michael’s life.
'Whether the children go is down to Katherine'

Famed celebrity choreographer Kenny Ortega – producer of hits such as Dirty Dancing, Madonna’s Material Girl video and the High School Musical movies – is helping to pull together the service, along with Ken Ehrlich, the award-winning producer of the Emmys and the Grammys.

At present, Michael’s body is in a sealed mortuary at the Forest Lawn Cemetery in Burbank, California, 11 miles from the Staples Centre. But Mr Phillips cast doubt on whether the star’s coffin would actually be at the service.

Mr Phillips said: ‘We are still trying to figure out the logistics of getting Michael to the arena if, indeed, that is what happens. There will be no funeral procession. Whatever happens, it is about Michael’s spirit and his life. Even if the body is not there, he will be there in spirit.’

Another source said: ‘The plan is for the make-up artist to attend to him in the mortuary in the early hours of Tuesday morning. We are looking at ways for the family to say their final farewells in private, with the coffin open. Katherine has said that she wishes to place a memento from each of the children in the coffin, perhaps a toy or item of clothing, along with letters from the children and a photograph of them all together with their father.

‘She would like the coffin to be in the arena during the service, with one of Michael’s trademark sequined gloves and a black fedora on top. She thinks that would be a powerful and fitting image.
Maybelline Great Lash mascara, a brand favoured by Michael Jackson

Jackson's make-up artist will use his favourite brand of mascara to prepare him for his funeral

‘We are trying to figure out how to transport the coffin from the mortuary to downtown LA. At the moment, it could be done via an unmarked police car or possibly flown in by helicopter.

'But nothing is set in stone. Katherine is changing her mind all the time about whether the coffin should even be there or not.

‘Whether the children attend or not will be down to Katherine. The older two have said they would like to be there. Blanket is the youngest and she is concerned that he might be frightened by all the attention.

‘One thing is for sure. Those kids will not be wearing masks if they do attend.’
Made up for his coffin

Michael Jackson’s long-term make-up artist Karen Faye will carefully prepare her boss for his funeral.

She will glue on individual fake eyelashes, followed by three coats of his favourite extra-dark Maybelline Great Lash mascara in blackest black.

A well-worn Chanel kohl pencil will be used to outline the rims of his eyes.

Next, she will apply a coat of pale foundation, translucent powder and Clarins rose-pink lipstick before she puts on his jet-black wig of real hair. Karen, 53, said: ‘It is important Michael looks good.’
Did he really design tickets?

AEG chief executive Randy Phillips last night angrily dismissed claims that the company was cynically trying to cash in by offering fans souvenir tickets for Michael Jackson’s London shows instead of a full refund.

Everyone who has paid for a ticket will get either a full refund or the special hologrammed tickets.

He insisted the dancing hologram on the tickets had been created by the dead star, saying: ‘Michael was involved in every aspect of designing those tickets. It was his idea to come up with the dancing hologram of himself on the front. We didn’t just come up with this idea after he died.
A fan clutches a sought-after ticket for Jackson's concerts

Swap: Confirmation slips like this can be exchanged for a hologram ticket

‘These are the real tickets, they were ready to be put in the post when he died. My art director and head of marketing were ready to jump out of the window of their offices at one stage because it took Michael four weeks to approve the eight designs featured on the tickets.

'Ok, he didn’t draw the designs himself but he came up with the idea and told our art director what he wanted. It was his creative vision.’

There are eight different ticket designs. People will receive the actual ticket they would have received – with the date and seat number printed on the back.

Mr Phillips added: ‘We have talked to all four major ticket agencies. None of the tickets has been released yet. That will start after the funeral.’Jackson family fallout: Exclusive interview with manager reveals rift over funeral | Mail Online

The makeup thing is bloody hilarious. Yes, people are made up for funerals but not to look like middle aged white women...unless they actually are middle aged white women.

Also, sick to death of hearing about how religious the mother is. If she was so bloody holy why didn't she stop her husband from abusing the shit out of her kids and then pimping them out. Hiding behind religion, the oldest game in the book.

[JadeStar70]

he was a freak. I am surprised James Brown wasn't in the painting or even Martin Luther King, or his good buddie Jesse Jackson...lol. Is Jesse related to the Jackson clan? Or just same last name?

[BITTER]

Originally Posted by JadeStar70

he was a freak. I am surprised James Brown wasn't in the painting or even Martin Luther King, or his good buddie Jesse Jackson...lol. Is Jesse related to the Jackson clan? Or just same last name?

Jesse has an attraction to the Jackson fortune. And fame and publicity. Jesse is a womanizing cockroach.

[celeb_2006]

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Originally Posted by celeb_2006

I'm more than happy to help put them out of their misery.