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Old July 3rd, 2009, 08:05 AM   #3496 (permalink)
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Sometime before Thriller, though, the soul left the body and he became a spastic puppet in both his movements and his singing.
That's exactly what he became. A modern day Pinocchio, especially with his his pointy little nose .
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 08:22 AM   #3497 (permalink)
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And our tax dollars should! He was an icon! The very bestest dancer and singer and person and humanitarian who ever walked this sad, pathetic planet we call earth! We should be grateful he was with us even for 50 short years. Oh, if only he could have been immortal But he is immortal, at least in our hearts. Michael will live forever! He will return...HE IS THE KING.
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 08:31 AM   #3498 (permalink)
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LA braces for horde of Michael Jackson mourners - Yahoo! News

LOS ANGELES – Los Angeles officials are scrambling over the holiday weekend to figure out how to accommodate an expected horde of Michael Jackson fans who will show up for a public memorial service next week.
The Jackson family said in a statement that the event has been set for 10 a.m. Tuesday at the downtown Staples Center.
Los Angeles City Councilman Dennis Zin says the service could draw 100,000 fans. The center's capacity is about 20,000.
He says with the July Fourth holiday weekend "it's the worst time ... to work something out." He also says he's concerned about the cost of police overtime for the cash-strapped city.

The question of when and where a public memorial service will be held for Michael Jackson has finally been answered. But how city officials will handle the likelihood of a massive crowd remains to be settled.
A public memorial for the late singer has been set for 10 a.m. Tuesday at the Staples Center in downtown Los Angeles, according to a press release from the office of the Jackson family's publicist. A press conference to announce further details was planned for Friday.
Randy Phillips, chief executive of AEG Live, which owns the Staples Center and was Jackson's promoter, said tickets would be free. He was not sure how they would be distributed.
Los Angeles City Councilman Dennis Zine said plans for the memorial are clearly moving forward, but he wished there had been more time to work out the logistics for such a huge event.
"If you can imagine 100,000 people show up and you have 20,000 capacity (at the Staples Center), there is not sufficient room. Now you have a crowd-control problem," he said. With the July Fourth holiday weekend "it's the worst time ... to work something out." He also said he's concerned about the cost of police overtime for the cash-strapped city.
Jackson's brother Jermaine told Larry King during Thursday's broadcast of CNN's "Larry King Live," that there will be a private ceremony for family and some special guests before the public memorial, according to show transcripts.

He added the family wants to have other memorials around the United States.


Meanwhile, the future of Michael Jackson's children was thrown into question Thursday when his ex-wife emerged and won a delay in a custody hearing while she decides whether she wants to raise her two offspring.
It was the first legal move from Deborah Rowe since the entertainer's death. Jackson's will asks for his mother, Katherine, to get permanent custody of all three of his children.
Rowe, who met Jackson as a receptionist in the office of his dermatologist, has characterized their relationship as strictly for the purpose of birthing Jackson children. She is the mother of his two oldest children and received $8.5 million in their divorce, according to court records. His youngest child was conceived with a surrogate.
She has spent very little time with her son Michael Joseph Jr., known as Prince Michael, 12; and daughter Paris Michael Katherine, 11. But Rowe also has opposed the idea of Katherine Jackson getting custody of her children when it came up in the past.
Rowe's attorney, Eric M. George, said his client had not decided whether to seek custody.
A guardianship hearing was set for July 13 at the request of attorneys for Rowe and for Katherine Jackson, 79, who has temporary guardianship of her son's children.
The identity of the surrogate mother of the singer's youngest child, 7-year-old son Prince Michael II, has never been revealed.
In other developments, there will be another court hearing on Monday to deal with who will take temporary control of Jackson's estate. He left all his assets to the Michael Jackson Family Trust.
A person familiar with the details of the trust said it would be shared between his mother, who gets 40 percent, his three children, who together get 40 percent, and charities for children, which would receive 20 percent. The charities will be determined later by the trust.
The person was not authorized to speak publicly and requested anonymity.
Authorities also were investigating allegations that the 50-year-old Jackson had been consuming painkillers, sedatives and antidepressants.
The federal Drug Enforcement Administration and California Attorney General Jerry Brown both were helping Los Angeles police investigate the possible involvement of prescription drugs in Jackson's death.
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 09:38 AM   #3499 (permalink)
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Debbie Rowe is pissed off because she was blatantly not included in the will. If she goes after the kids it's for money. And she shoudl be slapped down because she does not give a shit about those kids. Joe Jackson should be kept away from them for obvious reasons but no way should she get custody. Hell, I'll take 'em. Anyone is better than that family.
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 09:38 AM   #3500 (permalink)
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 09:41 AM   #3501 (permalink)
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No....my Assssss.....
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 09:48 AM   #3502 (permalink)
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Since Debbie was specifically excluded from the will, even if she gets custody of the kids, would she be able to touch the money? It sounds like the kids 40 percent is in the Trust and the two executors of the will, will be the only ones with authority to distribute the funds. Not sure if that is right, but that is the way I understood it.

IF she can take care of the kids properly and is their bio Mom,....let her have them. But have the executors control the funds that are released to her for the kids care. They could control what amount is released to her for food, clothing, medical expenses, ect. They can then put the balance of the kid's money in trusts for the kids only. Then after they turn 18, or whatever age they deem appropriate, the money will have matured and will be there for them as adults.
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 09:58 AM   #3503 (permalink)
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07-02) 12:28 PDT LONDON, United Kingdom (AP) --

Two of Michael Jackson's former confidantes, medium Uri Geller and ex-bodyguard Matt Fiddes, say they tried in vain to keep the pop superstar from abusing painkillers and other prescription drugs suspected of leading to his death — but others in the singer's circle kept the supplies flowing.

"When Michael asked for something, he got it. This was the great tragedy," Geller said Thursday.

Geller, who said he suffered a terrible falling-out with Jackson several years ago over the issue, said he often had "to shout at Michael, to scream at Michael" as he sought to confiscate the singer's stocks of medication during his travels in England.

"I tried to drum sense into his brain," Geller said. "I told him, 'Michael you're going to die, Michael you're going to kill yourself.' But he just stared at me. Many a time he was in his bed and I stood and shouted at him. He just stared at me."

Speaking at his home near London, Geller said he slept on floors or sofas in Jackson's hotel suites in a bid to talk sense into his sometimes-incoherent friend.

"Most of the people around Michael could not say `No!' to him. He desperately needed someone there all the time who could say `No!' and mean it, who could warn him of the dangers ... and tell him the truth," Geller said. "The big problem was that many people wanted to help Michael, to save his life, but we could not be there all the time."

Geller said Jackson relied on medications to help him cope with relentless pressure and media criticism in his later years. "With his sanity buffeted and health wracked by global bullying nonstop, I think it's actually incredible that Michael held up as well as he did," he said.

Fiddes, an English karate instructor who worked as a senior bodyguard during Jackson's travels in Britain for a decade, said the pop idol abused prescription medications, not recreational drugs, and took so much that it could be difficult to wake him for engagements.

"I confiscated packages and Uri did too. I mean, Uri confiscated injection equipment from his room," Fiddes said in an interview broadcast Thursday by Sky News. "And Uri would scream at Michael, you know, intensely, to stop doing this. But we just were getting pushed out."

Fiddes recalled one occasion when Jackson planned to visit London Zoo to see the gorillas, chimpanzees and other primates — but was too spaced out to go anywhere.

The bodyguard said he and Geller "were both shaking him trying to wake him up. It was clear that he had taken something that morning and he was hard to wake. We were extremely concerned ... We couldn't get him in a state that would portray him in a good light."

Fiddes said both he and Geller told others supplying medications to Jackson to stop, but when their efforts "got back to Michael, he would have a screaming fit that we were interfering with his private life. He was in denial."

However, Geller said he was convinced that "Michael did not want to die."

"Michael loved life," he said. "Michael loved his children. They were everything to him."

Several other Jackson confidantes have expressed concern since his death at the volume and mixture of medications he was taking. Self-help guru Deepak Chopra said he rejected Jackson's 2005 appeals for painkillers and that their relationship suffered lasting damage because of it.

Geller said he was fearful that Jackson could not have completed his planned 50-concert run in London, which was due to start July 13. Stress over the imminent comeback, as well as drug misuse, combined to kill his friend, he said.

"Whatever the autopsy will come back with, part of what made Michael Jackson's heart stop involved the stress and the anxiety that, 'My God, in a few days I have to get on a plane and fly to England.' But he could have done it," Geller said.
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 09:58 AM   #3504 (permalink)
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I don't understand why anyone would be surprised that Rowe wasn't named in the will. He married her only to ensure that he was the legal father of the children. They were never actually married in any real sense and they had no relationship afterward. Jacko didn't consider her to be the children's mother. She was paid for her services. End of story.
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 10:32 AM   #3505 (permalink)
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Icon my fucking ass.
Despite all of the shit MJ's done in his personal life, he still is a musical/pop icon. In his personal life MJ was a freak of the highest order, but none of that automatically wipes out the decades of professional accomplishments as if they didn't happen.

Jerry Lee Lewis married his underage cousin, but he's still considered one of the greats of early Rock & Roll. Roman Polanski drugged a 13 or 14 year old girl, had sex with her and fled the country, but he's still considered a great director. Phil Spector shot somebody, but he's still considered one of the great producers of early Rock & Roll. So, people shouldn't be shocked that MJ is being lauded as an icon, despite the freaky plastic surgery and molestation trial/accusations

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Debbie Rowe is pissed off because she was blatantly not included in the will. If she goes after the kids it's for money. And she shoudl be slapped down because she does not give a shit about those kids. Joe Jackson should be kept away from them for obvious reasons but no way should she get custody. Hell, I'll take 'em. Anyone is better than that family.
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 10:41 AM   #3506 (permalink)
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Debbie Rowe doesn't have a maternal bone in her body. I hope she doesn't get them.
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 10:59 AM   #3507 (permalink)
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I'm with Grim I see nothing
omg is that a joke? I can't see shit
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 11:00 AM   #3508 (permalink)
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omg is that a joke? I can't see shit
Well until Twitchy pointed MJ out I saw nothing lol and no these ppl really thought they saw MJ in the clouds lol
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 11:07 AM   #3509 (permalink)
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Yes I laughed out loud as usual at Twitchy's humor LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

ETA- Twitchy your a riot, please don't ever leave!!!!!!!!!
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Old July 3rd, 2009, 11:30 AM   #3510 (permalink)
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I gave up on this thread around pg 200. Michael Jackson overload. Anything interesting happen?
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