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    @RonanFarrow: Listen, we're all *possibly* Frank Sinatra's son.

    Lol. He is so his son.

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    I don't know why but this makes me very happy.Those lips are so much like Franks.

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    These people all skeeve me out. Whatever happened or didn't happen, I feel like I need brain bleach every time I read a story about them.

    I do feel bad for the kids, because they seem to have been exposed to the most fucked up people. Looks like Ronan turned out pretty good. Smart kid.
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    I would have voted for Robert Redford as Ronan's biodad before Sinatra (Sinatra sired him aged 72 and before Viagra became available?) but I have been saying for years there's no way that kid is Woody's. He looks nothing like Allen!

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    I've got $5 that says he's 'possibly' Andre Previn's kid.



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    Quote Originally Posted by yanna View Post
    I would have voted for Robert Redford as Ronan's biodad before Sinatra (Sinatra sired him aged 72 and before Viagra became available?) but I have been saying for years there's no way that kid is Woody's. He looks nothing like Allen!
    if he wasn't woody allen's kid, you can bet your ass mia would have gotten a paternity test ages ago, published the results, and avoided the whole custody bullshit with woody allen by proclaiming to the world that he wasn't the kid's dad anyway. but she hasn't. because he is. so instead she's just spouting a lot of speculative bullshit.
    genetics is weird. i think he looks like his mother's clone, like he could be mia's kid with mia, no other genetic material involved.
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    Perhaps Woody has done something disgusting and criminal again and Mia has put this out there in advance to distance her son from his morally corrupt father.

    *Tips conspiracy tin foil hat*
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    Quote Originally Posted by sputnik View Post
    if he wasn't woody allen's kid, you can bet your ass mia would have gotten a paternity test ages ago, published the results, and avoided the whole custody bullshit with woody allen by proclaiming to the world that he wasn't the kid's dad anyway. but she hasn't. because he is. so instead she's just spouting a lot of speculative bullshit.
    genetics is weird. i think he looks like his mother's clone, like he could be mia's kid with mia, no other genetic material involved.
    ITA. SHE even looks like a young Sinatra in that pic of her with him from the time they were married.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sputnik View Post
    if he wasn't woody allen's kid, you can bet your ass mia would have gotten a paternity test ages ago, published the results, and avoided the whole custody bullshit with woody allen by proclaiming to the world that he wasn't the kid's dad anyway. but she hasn't. because he is. so instead she's just spouting a lot of speculative bullshit.
    genetics is weird. i think he looks like his mother's clone, like he could be mia's kid with mia, no other genetic material involved.
    Dunno, Allen didn't have any biokids with Soon Yin either. I guess we have to wait until Ronan breeds. If his offspring has zero resemblance to Woody as well, I am calling shenanigans.
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    ^^^^
    ronan has done everything he possibly can to distance himself from his father, from changing his name to publicly renouncing him and refusing to have anything to do with him. if there was even a chance he wasn't biologically related to him, i can't believe he wouldn't find out for sure and then make sure everyone knew it.
    it's not like he or mia are into keeping things private anyway.
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    ^^ I agree.

    Why bring up questionable paternity in the press if not to take a swipe at Allen?



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    Quote Originally Posted by sputnik View Post
    ^^^^
    ronan has done everything he possibly can to distance himself from his father, from changing his name to publicly renouncing him and refusing to have anything to do with him. if there was even a chance he wasn't biologically related to him, i can't believe he wouldn't find out for sure and then make sure everyone knew it.
    it's not like he or mia are into keeping this private much anyway.
    I agree with all this. However, I gotta say that I do see a resemblance to Sinatra in the eyes and brows. Yeah, he looks strongly like Mia, but I don't know, I see it with him and Sinatra, too.

    I keep wondering if maybe what the Sinatra family are saying in the press and how they feel about it privately differ. Maybe they don't outright denounce the kid to keep from looking like assholes, but really they won't submit to DNA testing without a court order, especially if there's a significant amount of money involved and this would place Rowan squarely in line for a lot of it. I'm just speculating here, I don't know.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sarzy View Post
    @RonanFarrow: Listen, we're all *possibly* Frank Sinatra's son.

    Lol. He is so his son.
    I really love this kid's attitude and sense of humor. Yeah, he's a bit bitter, but if anyone was ever entitled to be, it's him.
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    I went back to the original 1992 Vanity Fair article to see if there was anything about paternity in it. I didn't find what I was looking for, but I'd forgotten how creepy the original story was. This is the first page only. The other 7 pages continue at the link beneath the cut-and-paste:

    Mia’s Story

    Whatever you already know about this tangled and painful situation, you’ve only heard half: the case against Mia Farrow. This is the other half and it isn’t any prettier. It concerns Woody Allen’s behavior and what it has done to Mia Farrow and the 11 children involved. The author breaks new ground on one of the year’s most shocking stories.

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    There was an unwritten rule in Mia Farrow’s house that Woody Allen was never supposed to be left alone with their seven-year-old adopted daughter, Dylan. Over the last two years, sources close to Farrow say, he has been discussing alleged “inappropriate” fatherly behavior toward Dylan in sessions with Dr. Susan Coates, a child psychologist. In more than two dozen interviews conducted for this article, most of them with individuals who are on intimate terms with the Mia Farrow household, Allen was described over and over as being completely obsessed with the bright little blonde girl. He could not seem to keep his hands off her. He would monopolize her totally, to the exclusion of her brothers and sisters, and spend hours whispering to her. She was fond of her daddy, but if she tried to go off and play, he would follow her from room to room, or he would sit and stare at her. During the school year, Allen would arrive early at Mia Farrow’s West Side Manhattan apartment, sit on Dylan’s bed and watch her wake up, and take her to school. At her birthday party last July, at Farrow’s country house in Bridgewater, Connecticut, he promised that he would keep away from the children’s table so that Dylan could enjoy her birthday party with her friends, but he seemed unable to do that. Allen, who was a fearful figure to many in the household, was so needy where Dylan was concerned that he hovered over her through the whole party, and when the cake arrived, he was right behind her, helping to blow out the candles.
    Calling attention to someone’s birthday-party behavior may seem trivial at best. However, Dr. Coates, who just happened to be in Mia’s apartment to work with one of her other children, had only to witness a brief greeting between Woody and Dylan before she began a discussion with Mia that resulted in Woody’s agreeing to address the issue through counseling. At that point Coates didn’t know that, according to several sources, Woody, wearing just underwear, would take Dylan to bed with him and entwine his body around hers; or that he would have her suck his thumb; or that often when Dylan went over to his apartment he would head straight for the bedroom with her so that they could get into bed and play. He called Mia a “spoilsport” when she objected to what she referred to as “wooing.” Mia has told people that he said that her concerns were her own sickness, and that he was just being warm. For a long time, Mia backed down. Her love for Woody had always been mixed with fear. He could reduce her to a pulp when he gave vent to his temper, but she was also in awe of him, because he always presented himself as “a morally superior person.”
    One summer day in Connecticut, when Dylan was four and Woody was applying suntan lotion to her nude body, he alarmed Mia’s mother, actress Maureen O’Sullivan, and sister Tisa Farrow when he began rubbing his finger in the crack between her buttocks. Mia grabbed the lotion out of his hand, and O’Sullivan asked, “How do you want to be remembered by your children?” “As a good father,” Woody answered. “Well, that’s interesting,” O’Sullivan replied. “It only lasted a few seconds, but it was definitely weird,” says Tisa Farrow.
    Woody’s own mother was heard to remark on his fawning behavior with Dylan when Woody and Mia would take the children over for visits. “She’s the Wicked Witch of the West, Dylan,” Woody, who seemed to have intense negative feelings for his mother, once said to the little girl. “Twist her nose off.”
    No such favoritism was shown toward four-and-a-half-year-old Satchel, Woody’s own son by Mia. Father and son seemed to have been allergic to each other from the start. Mia told friends that Woody appeared to be disturbed by her cesarean, from which she took a long time to recover; he was aghast at her nursing, particularly at a tube device that carried milk from a bottle down next to her nipple during the first week to give the baby formula when her own milk didn’t come in immediately, as well as at the fact that Satchel wasn’t fully weaned until he was two and a half. She said that Woody referred to the baby, who cried a lot, as “the little bastard,” and that once, when Satchel kicked Woody, Woody twisted Satchel’s leg until he screamed, and said, “Do that again and I’ll break your legs.” On another occasion, Satchel poked Dylan in the eye in Woody’s presence. Woody scooped up the little girl, cradled her in his arms, and railed obscenely at Satchel. “I just don’t buy it when a parent becomes so constantly angry at such a little boy,” says Casey Pascal, who witnessed the scene. Pascal, Mia’s friend since boarding-school days in England, also has a seven-year-old, plus twins Satchel’s age, and often visits Mia both in the country and in the city. “Woody clearly said he wanted a girl. Satchel was wrong from the beginning for him.”
    Dylan, who has just begun second grade, tests in the upper-90th percentile. Contrary to recent reports in the press, she has, according to family members, never been in therapy for an inability to distinguish fantasy from reality. She has been in therapy for separation anxiety (she didn’t want to be left by her parents at nursery school) and for her shyness. Indeed, people wondered how she could cope with so much doting attention from her father—behavior that many people frankly didn’t know what to make of. “When she just wanted to giggle and run away and play, he’d be right behind her. And I just looked at it, and I’d shake my head and think, I hope this is a great thing,” says Pascal. “It was to the point that when we would go over there I wouldn’t run over and talk to her or anything. I’d talk to Satchel, but it’s like you don’t even dare talk to Dylan when he’s around.” And was Pascal aware of the rule that Woody was never to be left alone with Dylan?
    “It was a really good rule,” she says. “There was no other way she could get away and get out.”
    Several times last summer, while Woody was visiting in Connecticut, Dylan locked herself in the bathroom, refusing to come out for hours. Once, one of the baby-sitters had to use a coat hanger to pick the lock. Dylan often complained of stomachaches and headaches when Woody visited: she would have to lie down. When he left, the symptoms would disappear. At times Dylan became so withdrawn when her father was around that she would not speak normally, but would pretend to be an animal.
    On August 4, Woody was in Connecticut to visit the children, and Mia and Casey went shopping, taking along Mia’s two most recently adopted children—a blind Vietnamese girl named Tam, 11, and Isaiah, a seven-month-old black baby born to a crack-addicted mother. While they were gone, there was a brief period, perhaps 15 minutes, when Woody and Dylan vanished from sight. The baby-sitter who was inside searched high and low for them through the cluttered old farmhouse, but she couldn’t find them. The outside baby-sitter, after a look at the grounds around the house, concluded the two must be inside somewhere. When Mia got home a short time later, Dylan and Woody were outside, and Dylan didn’t have any underpants on. (Allen later said that he had not been alone with Dylan. He refused to submit hair and fingerprint samples to the Connecticut state police or to cooperate unless he was assured that nothing he said would be used against him.) Woody, who hated the country and reportedly brought his own bath mat to avoid germs, spent the night in a guest room off the laundry next to the garage and left the next morning.
    That day, August 5, Casey called Mia to report something the baby-sitter had told her. The day before, Casey’s baby-sitter had been in the house looking for one of the three Pascal children and had been startled when she walked into the TV room. Dylan was on the sofa, wearing a dress, and Woody was kneeling on the floor holding her, with his face in her lap. The baby-sitter did not consider it “a fatherly pose,” but more like something you’d say “Oops, excuse me” to if both had been adults. She told police later that she was shocked. “It just seemed very intimate. He seemed very comfortable.”


    Mia's Story | Vanity Fair

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