Madonna’s ex chef: she spends 1/2 hour a day with her kids, tops

[suede]

Originally Posted by Novice

I don't think that "the upper east side" represent "a lot of people" tho - I don't think that any number of "normal" people would relate to their lifestyles either.

I was just trying not to sound like I was being assumptive about all people in all places. I do believe that as long as their are people that can afford multiple homes, country clubs, private school, boarding school, music and art teachers, camps for everything, nannies, housekeepers and drivers there will be parents that raise their children with the same attention they give to their shoes, luggage and other personal accessories.

[BBDSP]

I'm no Madonna fan, but what does it say about Guy that he didn't fight for custody. He must know she's a terrible mother but he came out in defense of her last week, suggesting she should have been able to adopt Mercy.

I doubt she's a horrible mother. I am sure she makes sure that the kids' needs are met and so forth. Perhaps during the time she spends with them she gives them her full attention. I just think...she sounds like she's a pretty selfish parent and her plan to adopt Mercy seemed like a way to make herself feel better, younger, etc. A kid is not a new puppy that you get to cheer yourself up, FFS.

[AliceInWonderland]

i have to disagree ^ i dont think she mothers, i think she manages, but i dont think she mothers

[Novice]

Originally Posted by heartlessstone

I'm no Madonna fan, but what does it say about Guy that he didn't fight for custody. He must know she's a terrible mother but he came out in defense of her last week, suggesting she should have been able to adopt Mercy. Sounds like he would have had plenty of ammunition to win custody of those kids or least keep her and the kids in London if he could prove that he and the nannies were the primary caregivers. He may be poor in comparison to Madonna, but he's not too poor to retain a lawyer and fight for his kids if she's been neglectful of them, especially when he has household staff as witnesses.

How do you know he didn't fight? The papers are sealed.
He got a LOT more visitation that most fathers who only normally get weekends & a day during the week in the UK. (So my guess is that he did fight - plus doesn't Lourdes also get to see him even though she's only a step-child - doesn't that speak volumes?)
He's also rumoured to have purchased a place in NYC so that he can be near his son.

Originally Posted by suede

I was just trying not to sound like I was being assumptive about all people in all places. I do believe that as long as their are people that can afford multiple homes, country clubs, private school, boarding school, music and art teachers, camps for everything, nannies, housekeepers and drivers there will be parents that raise their children with the same attention they give to their shoes, luggage and other personal accessories.

Yes, I see what you mean
I've worked as a nanny for some people like this - some moms were involved in their childrens' lives and some were self-involved narcasists (sp?)

[cool girl]

I hope this isn’t true for the sake of her kids. A lot of showbiz mum’s neglect their children IMO. In Madge’s defence she has always come across as a rather good mother. Who knows?

[TrevMaxwell]

Obviously Mr. Ienco wasn't too thrilled about his severence pay.

[darksithbunny]

Originally Posted by bellini

A half an hour a day of Madonna is more than enough.

I feel sorry that they have such a self-involved narcissist for a mother. It's who she is though. Hopefully they'll overcome it and write wonderful tell alls.

And people pay how much to spend more than 3 hours with her in concert? CRAZY.

[Little Wombat]

Originally Posted by Novice

How do you know he didn't fight? The papers are sealed.
He got a LOT more visitation that most fathers who only normally get weekends & a day during the week in the UK.

I thought I heard that the custody agreement has not yet been hammered out/settled. Guy and Madonna have a divorce decree but not custody yet if memory serves right.

[Sweetie]

I don't know about this. We see pictures of her with the kids quite often.

[olivia]

Originally Posted by Sweetie

I don't know about this. We see pictures of her with the kids quite often.

Which parent do you imagine calls the paps with IT's schedule?

[sparkly]

Originally Posted by Peike

From the New York Post:
The petulant pop star took an apparent swipe at her estranged husband in front of thousands of fans at her sold-out concert in Boston on Wednesday.
The onstage rage aimed at her soon- to-be ex-hubby came right as the singer began the opening chorus of "Miles Away" - an intimate pop song believed to be inspired by her rocky relationship with Ritchie.



"This song is for the emotionally retarded," Madonna told the crowd at TD Banknorth Garden in Boston.
"Maybe you know some people who fall into that category. God knows I do."

Oh like she's not emotionally retarded. Just ask her kids.

[Novice]

Originally Posted by Little Wombat

I thought I heard that the custody agreement has not yet been hammered out/settled. Guy and Madonna have a divorce decree but not custody yet if memory serves right.

I thought that the UK stuff was finalised a day or so before the trip to Malawii but because she's chose to live in NYC something has to go through the courts there too..... and your court papers aren't sealed like ours are.

[MrsDark]

Originally Posted by Novice

How do you know he didn't fight? The papers are sealed.
He got a LOT more visitation that most fathers who only normally get weekends & a day during the week in the UK. (So my guess is that he did fight - plus doesn't Lourdes also get to see him even though she's only a step-child - doesn't that speak volumes?)
He's also rumoured to have purchased a place in NYC so that he can be near his son.

I also agree that he got a lot. But I think the kids themselves might have had a hand in that. They aren't going to not want to see their dad, much as Madge would love to have it that way.

And for all we know Madge might have something on him. Maybe that strap-on she bought from the sex shop wasn't just for show.

[AliceInWonderland]

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[stef]

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Originally Posted by buttmunch

Hahahahaha....please. I was a working mother until a year and a half ago and you can spend A LOT of time with your kids if you put their needs and wants before your own. Sorry your mother didn't choose to do that but you're projecting your own thing on to Vadge.
Vadge WENT TO THE GYM HOURS AFTER HER ADOPTED BABY ARRIVED FROM AFRICA..A CHILD WHO DID NOT SPEAK ENGLISH AND WAS THROWN INTO AN ALIEN ENVIRONMENT. THIS IS NOT A CARING OR MATERNAL WOMAN. THIS IS A WOMAN WHO PUTS HERSELF FIRST.


Any success with those kids will be due to their carers, not Vadge.

Originally Posted by Kathie_Moffett

She's narcissistic, crass, vulgar, stupid, selfish, deceitful, greedy, neurotic, unhinged, controlling, obnoxious and an utter attention whore of the lowest and more vile type. She makes Joan Crawford look like June Cleaver to me. I think her kids are LUCKY she avoids them. Here's to the long-suffering nannies! *TEAM GUY*

exactly! i agree 100%!