Joaquin Phoenix Slams Academy Awards

**greysfang** · October 19th, 2012, 10:12 AM

Originally Posted by MmeVertigina

It sounds to me like he is genuinely uncomfortable thinking that he might win, movies are what they are, not everyone involved needs or wants validation from The Academy in order to be fulfilled by making movies.

That's fine, but does he really have to shit on the accomplishments of all the greats that have come before him? He's a jackass.

**MohandasKGanja** · October 19th, 2012, 10:23 AM

Originally Posted by NoNoRehab

I'm ready to give the Oscar to Day-Lewis based just on the previews for Lincoln. The movie itself doesn't look that great but man, DDL gave me fucking chills.

Thanks for mentioning that. I went to check it out. It looks pretty good. I think Lewis is an amazing actor, so I would have gone for it just for that. But it also has James Spader, Joseph Gordon Levitt (as Robert Lincoln - only son to survive to adulthood), Bruce McGill, Tommy Lee Jones, David Straithairn, John Hawkes, Sally Field, and on and on....

**witchcurlgirl** · October 19th, 2012, 10:33 AM

Originally Posted by MohandasKGanja

Thanks for mentioning that. I went to check it out. It looks pretty good. I think Lewis is an amazing actor, so I would have gone for it just for that. But it also has James Spader, Joseph Gordon Levitt (as Robert Lincoln - only son to survive to adulthood), Bruce McGill, Tommy Lee Jones, David Straithairn, John Hawkes, Sally Field, and on and on....

Fun fact 1: Robert Todd Lincoln was an eyewitness to President Garfield's assassination, and was present (although not an eyewitness) at President McKinley's as well. He stopped going to events with presidents after that.

Fun fact 2: His life was saved by Edwin Booth, brother of John Wilkes Booth, shortly before JWB killed Lincoln

**sputnik** · October 19th, 2012, 10:48 AM

Lincoln is directed by Steven Spielberg. I am skeptical, to say the least.

**Sasha** · October 19th, 2012, 10:52 AM

The Oscars ARE mostly a farce. It's rare that the winners are truly deserving, and not the product of either a massive self-serving PR campaign [coughSandraBullockcough] or political cowardice. [Silence of the Lambs over JFK]

**witchcurlgirl** · October 19th, 2012, 11:08 AM

IMO Silence of the Lambs is a much better movie than JFK.

(And more based in fact

)

**MohandasKGanja** · October 19th, 2012, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by witchcurlgirl

Fun fact 1: Robert Todd Lincoln was an eyewitness to President Garfield's assassination, and was present (although not an eyewitness) at President McKinley's as well. He stopped going to events with presidents after that.

Fun fact 2: His life was saved by Edwin Booth, brother of John Wilkes Booth, shortly before JWB killed Lincoln

Those are great. Here's another one:

Fun fact 3: He grew up to look eerily similar to Bruce McGill who plays Edward Stanton in Lincoln:

**Kathie_Moffett** · October 19th, 2012, 02:47 PM

Originally Posted by witchcurlgirl

Fun fact 1: Robert Todd Lincoln was an eyewitness to President Garfield's assassination, and was present (although not an eyewitness) at President McKinley's as well. He stopped going to events with presidents after that.

Fun fact 2: His life was saved by Edwin Booth, brother of John Wilkes Booth, shortly before JWB killed Lincoln

He must have been so weirded out, poor guy.

Originally Posted by MohandasKGanja

Thanks for mentioning that. I went to check it out. It looks pretty good. I think Lewis is an amazing actor, so I would have gone for it just for that. But it also has James Spader, Joseph Gordon Levitt (as Robert Lincoln - only son to survive to adulthood), Bruce McGill, Tommy Lee Jones, David Straithairn, John Hawkes, Sally Field, and on and on....

Wow, ya just talked me into seeing it. DDL does seem like such fascinating casting.

Originally Posted by greysfang

That's fine, but does he really have to shit on the accomplishments of all the greats that have come before him? He's a jackass.

Ohhhh I see your point there. It IS rude, I agree. I do think his sentiments are genuine and he doesn't seem like your typical fameho actor--how often do we see him when he is not in a high profile role (well, except for that weird business with the Affleck guy--did anyone ever figure that out?)

George C. Scott was the type who could get away with that much attitude--he was a jerk anyway and didn't care who knew. Still odd somehow that he didn't live to be 90-something. He seemed like a beef jerky sort of person--leathery and tough and lasts forever.

**WhateverLolaWants** · October 19th, 2012, 03:26 PM

Oh for goodness sake, YES, its a self-promoting pageant. Either go or don't go. If you think its a good idea to drum up publicity for a lagging industry, you might want to go, but no one is forcing you to at gun point.

It drums up interest in the movie industry from bitchy cows like us who love goggling at the dresses and hot people. That's not everyone's cup of tea, but its not like its news

**Sasha** · October 19th, 2012, 04:43 PM

Originally Posted by witchcurlgirl

IMO Silence of the Lambs is a much better movie than JFK.

(And more based in fact

)

Not many FBI trainees are given the latitude Clarice was given.

And JFK instigated ARRB--Assassination Records Review Board--which found, among many other things, that the JFK autopsy x-rays had been 'tampered with' or were outright fakes, and that the photos of his brain were NOT his brain.

Now why would the gubmint go and do THAT? They generated these fraudulent records and were the only ones who had access to them.

**mjw** · October 19th, 2012, 05:39 PM

Originally Posted by Sasha

The Oscars ARE mostly a farce. It's rare that the winners are truly deserving, and not the product of either a massive self-serving PR campaign [coughSandraBullockcough] or political cowardice. [Silence of the Lambs over JFK]

You think that Oliver Stone shit was better than this?

**witchcurlgirl** · October 19th, 2012, 07:03 PM

Conspiracy to kill JFK or not aside, Stone's movie is fictional. Which is fine, because it's just a movie and not a documentary. The only issue is that too many people accept it as actual history and not entertainment. It's the same with movies like Mississippi Burning, Braveheart, etc.

**WhateverLolaWants** · October 19th, 2012, 07:04 PM

Or Spice World.

**witchcurlgirl** · October 19th, 2012, 07:08 PM

I wish the bomb had been real.

**MohandasKGanja** · October 19th, 2012, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by witchcurlgirl

Conspiracy to kill JFK or not aside, Stone's movie is fictional. Which is fine, because it's just a movie and not a documentary. The only issue is that too many people accept it as actual history and not entertainment. It's the same with movies like Mississippi Burning, Braveheart, etc.

Does anybody know if Spielberg's version of Lincoln movie includes any of his vampire hunting? Or did the Illuminati make him take it out?