Jean Harlow: The first Hollywood car crash? - Page 9

buttmunch · May 18th, 2009, 11:19 PM

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This thread was so entertaining! Thanks. I love old Hollywood. Some of the stars that were considered great beauties then, I just can't see. Barbara Stanwyck, Jean Harlow, Betty Grable, blech.

My pick the most beautiful would be Jennifer Jones, Gene Tierny, Loretta Young, of course Vivienne Leigh. My supreme favorite is Rita Hayworth. Lana Turner was very beautiful when she was young then like Joan Crawford, something happened to make her look like petrified wood. But really pretty when she first started.

Some gossip I read about Rita is when she traveled with her father, who was her dancing partner, they would register as husband and wife. He treated her as his wife when they were on tour. It would explain a lot of her issues with men.

There are a lot of rumours about molestation concerning her and her father. I would copy this in but it's really long. It's a pretty interesting read about Hayworth and her parents. Skeezy dad...

MOVIE STARS: Rita Hayworth

bellini · May 18th, 2009, 11:44 PM

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Stanwyck would have been more fun to hang out with; she liked her cocktails.

My kind of woman. I'll toast to her right now.

Loretta Young used to charge people a quarter for every swear word they said while on the set. I can't remember which actor it was who put in five dollars so he'd be all paid up. Total hypocrite. It must have been divine payback that her daughter was born with Gable's legendary barn door ears.

Beauty doesn't necessarily mean interesting or smart.

BITTER · May 19th, 2009, 05:47 AM

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My kind of woman. I'll toast to her right now.

Loretta Young used to charge people a quarter for every swear word they said while on the set. I can't remember which actor it was who put in five dollars so he'd be all paid up. Total hypocrite. It must have been divine payback that her daughter was born with Gable's legendary barn door ears.

Beauty doesn't necessarily mean interesting or smart.

Rumor has it that it was Stanwyck, who guested on Loretta's TV show several times. It seems that Young kept shoving that swear jar in her face every five minutes. Stanwyck finally said, "Loretta, here's ten bucks, now FUCK off!".

buttmunch · May 19th, 2009, 06:29 AM

I never like Stanwyck but now I'm starting to see the joy of her.

Wiseguy · May 19th, 2009, 09:30 AM

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Erroll Flynn was a Nazi sympathizer to the extreme, apparently. I remember reading about a mother who literallly gave her 12 or 14 year old daughter to a producer for the night in the hopes he would make her a star. He raped the girl and then made her a star. I'm wondering if that wasn't Jean Harlow.

That was from Charles Higham's biography on Errol and has been largely discredited.

The British Secret Service has documentation on Errol that not only clears him of this, but actually confirms that Errol in fact spied for the British and the Allies in World War 2.

Olivia de Havilland also strongly denied the Nazi links. She gave an interview where she confirmed that they were in love with each other, but that Flynn was not divorced at the time. Olivia was adamant that Flynn was definitely not a Nazi sympathiser and that Higham based these allegations on very flimsy associations of Errol.

Sasha · May 19th, 2009, 11:57 AM

Rita Hayworth is one of my all time favorites. Not only was she supremely talented and gorgeous, but you only have to listen to her daughter talk about her (and many others who knew her) to know she was also very loving and kind. Rita was Fred Astaire's favorite dance partner, not Ginger Rogers.

Novice · May 19th, 2009, 12:05 PM

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That was from Charles Higham's biography on Errol and has been largely discredited.

The British Secret Service has documentation on Errol that not only clears him of this, but actually confirms that Errol in fact spied for the British and the Allies in World War 2.

Olivia de Havilland also strongly denied the Nazi links. She gave an interview where she confirmed that they were in love with each other, but that Flynn was not divorced at the time. Olivia was adamant that Flynn was definitely not a Nazi sympathiser and that Higham based these allegations on very flimsy associations of Errol.

Have they release that documentation?* Because my Grandfather's doc are covered by 75 yrs secrecy.... but then it was a slightly different situation in that he was a pre-war sabatour.

*and if so do you have the links, I'd find it really useful!

BITTER · May 19th, 2009, 01:40 PM

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I never like Stanwyck but now I'm starting to see the joy of her.

She's one of my faves. Mainly because she came to Hollywood as an underdog - skinny, not beautiful or formally trained. But there was something compelling about her onscreen presence.

witchcurlgirl · May 19th, 2009, 01:46 PM

her hubby Robert Taylor was also rumoured to be gay.

Sasha · May 19th, 2009, 01:50 PM

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She's one of my faves. Mainly because she came to Hollywood as an underdog - skinny, not beautiful or formally trained. But there was something compelling about her onscreen presence.

Oh absolutely. She was bad to the bone. Nobody could deliver a line like Barbara. And she could look beautiful at times, especially when she was very young. I saw The Purchase Price, a film from 1932 with George Brent, a few weeks ago and she was just lovely in it. If you have never seen Baby Face, a shocking pre-code film about a girl sleeping her way to the top, you really must!

BITTER · May 19th, 2009, 01:51 PM

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Oh absolutely. She was bad to the bone. Nobody could deliver a line like Barbara. And she could look beautiful at times, especially when she was very young. I saw The Purchase Price, a film from 1932 with George Brent, a few weeks ago and she was just lovely in it. If you have never seen Baby Face, a shocking pre-code film about a girl sleeping her way to the top, you really must!

I love Baby Face; it was so her. Half wood-nymph, half-hard-hearted ho. I thought she looked especially hot in The Lady Eve, which was the film that made her a fashion icon, thanks to Edith Head (another one of her rumored LOVAHS).

I pretty much love everything she's been in, even her bad films.

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her hubby Robert Taylor was also rumoured to be gay.

Gay, short and with a small-assed dick too. I harp on him 'cause he named names during the HUAC hearings.

According to the much derided bio, Stanwyck, by the late Axel Madsen, Robert Taylor was pretty much a rent boy before hitting it big, shacking up with a few powerful behind-the-scenes H'wood big-wigs.

witchcurlgirl · May 19th, 2009, 01:55 PM

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Gay, short and with a small-assed dick too. I harp on him 'cause he named names during the HUAC hearings.

According to the much derided bio, Stanwyck, by the late Axel Madsen, Robert Taylor was pretty much a rent boy before hitting it big, shacking up with a few powerful behind-the-scenes H'wood big-wigs.

I'd always heard that Robert Taylor was bisexual, that his marriage to Stanwyck was arranged, and that she was also gay. So when I met Taylor I figured we'd have something in common. Wrong! I was open, he was not only closeted, he was right wing and a witch hunter - Sal Mineo

BITTER · May 19th, 2009, 02:02 PM

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I'd always heard that Robert Taylor was bisexual, that his marriage to Stanwyck was arranged, and that she was also gay. So when I met Taylor I figured we'd have something in common. Wrong! I was open, he was not only closeted, he was right wing and a witch hunter - Sal Mineo

Nothing worse than the closet. Being in the closet almost drove me insane.

Still, he did make a couple of enjoyable films. He tried hard to not be cast against type, especially after the war. The sword-and-sandal epics saved his career.

Sasha · May 19th, 2009, 02:03 PM

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Gay, short and with a small-assed dick too. I harp on him 'cause he named names during the HUAC hearings.

According to the much derided bio, Stanwyck, by the late Axel Madsen, Robert Taylor was pretty much a rent boy before hitting it big, shacking up with a few powerful behind-the-scenes H'wood big-wigs.

Yeah the cowardly bastard.

One of the reason's I've always been a huge fan of John Garfield is because he refused to name names before HUAC. "Where I come from you don't rat". He was also a fabulous actor and very good looking:

Marilyn Monroe was also a hero in that respect. When her husband Arthur Miller refused to name names she came out and publicly backed his decision. Very courageous.

Two of my other favorite gals from Old Hollywood, Carole Lombard and Myrna Loy:

Lombard was famously killed in a plane crash while married to Clark Gable. Myrna Loy had done over 70 films before she made it big. The Thin Man series are a real hoot! She was married 4 times and never had children.

BITTER · May 19th, 2009, 02:07 PM

Ahhh, I loved John in Humoresque with Crawford. One of the most tragic, OTT romantic movies you'll see. He died so young at 39, from a heart ailment compounded by being blacklisted.

Lombard was so beautiful and she was another one gone too soon. Gable never recovered from her death.

Myrna Loy was a Hollywood liberal before it was cool to be one. She did the perfect movie wife better than that annoying June Allyson.