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    Quote Originally Posted by thunder&lightning View Post
    can ms be inherited?
    For some reason it does not seem to be, never heard of screening for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thunder&lightning View Post
    can ms be inherited?
    I've read that you can be more likely to get it if a relative has it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by McJag View Post
    Here is one from webmd.
    MARIJUANA: Uses, Side Effects, Interactions and Warnings - WebMD

    It contains chemicals called cannabinoids that affect the central nervous system. ... Cannabinoids are at least as effective as some conventional medications for nausea, ... associated with weight loss in AIDS patients, pain, and multiple sclerosis. ... Use of marijuana can cause dry mouth, nausea, vomiting, dry or red eyes, ...

    That says its used as a treatment for ms, not that it causes it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McJag View Post
    Here is one from webmd.
    MARIJUANA: Uses, Side Effects, Interactions and Warnings - WebMD

    It contains chemicals called cannabinoids that affect the central nervous system. ... Cannabinoids are at least as effective as some conventional medications for nausea, ... associated with weight loss in AIDS patients, pain, and multiple sclerosis. ... Use of marijuana can cause dry mouth, nausea, vomiting, dry or red eyes, ...
    did you read the text in between the ellipses? WebMD (which i would not use as a clinical research source, btw), says that marijuana can be used to treat some of the side effects associated with MS. i did not see anything in your citation that says marjuana CAUSES MS. if i misread this, please let me know.

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    I have read before that they think environmental factors may contribute to MS, but that can be a wide variety of things. And like Sarzy said, it seems to be more common among family members, even if they haven't established a genetic link yet.

    Whatever brought it on, I hate it for him and anyone diagnosed with it, and certainly no one ever deserves it.
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    My sister was recently diagnosed after months of testing. In speaking with others who have it, we ran across a lady who claims her doctor told her that the breast implants she had caused her MS to present early. He said she would have developed it anyway but something about the surgery brought it on out. I have not idea how true it is though I'm not sure why she would lie about it.

    My aunt also has MS so it does seem like it could be inherited though there is nothing to back that up as of yet.
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    There is genetic component. Which sucks because he just became a father.
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    Feel sad about this. Jack has always seemed like a down-to-earth guy. Ozzy and Sharon seem to be really good parents, so I'm sure they are devastated. Good luck to Jack.

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    A good friend of mine was diagnosed w/MS about 10 yrs ago. She had recently had a miscarriage and was trying to get on with her life after that and BOOM. She was told that hormones (like pregnancy hormones) CAN indeed speed up the onset of MS. They never came out and said 'we don't think you should have any children', but yet, it was insinuated. She went on to have 2 healthy girls and so far lives a decent life, but has has some issues and has taken some extended time off from work due to it. But overall, good.
    I have no idea if the hormone thing is true or not, but that is what she was told.

    And I also heard that the region you live in can either help/hinder MS symptoms. Cooler areas are allegedly more ideal than warm/humid ones. Again, just what my friend was told. Luckily we live in an area that is pretty fucking cold for long periods of time...

    I do feel for Jack. I think he will explore every option available and be a true champion for this disease. Good luck Jack!

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    I guess I shouldn't be surprised that I'm the first to mention this since the medical community is ridiculously uninformed. Lyme Disease(spread by deer ticks) is frequently misdiagnosed as MS. Their symptoms are essentially the same. There is no "test" for MS, it is merely a broad mix of symptoms that are otherwise unexplainable. The same goes for fibromyalgia, chronic fatigue syndrome, and ALS. A large number of people tested for LD bacteria post mortem after dying from MS and ALS test positive. To exacerbate the problem, the clinical tests for Lyme Disease are greatly inaccurate(high % of false negatives) so many people are undiagnosed and untreated. Chronic Lyme Disease can be treated with high dose antibiotics.

    I only know of this because a friend was diagnosed with MS last summer but later had the diagnosis retracted. The particular specialists told her it wasn't MS but declined to tell her WHAT was wrong. Another friend's son was having all sorts of health issues that were unexplained. He was eventually dx with Lyme Disease. It clicked that his symptoms were much the same as my friend's. We live in New England where LD is endemic and my friend has always spent lots of time outdoors and has been bitten by ticks in the past. She is now pursing a LD diagnosis.w

    Anyway, I think anyone diagnosed with MS, ALS, etc should explore testing for Lyme Disease first. Here are a few links for anyone interested...

    Health and Beauty with Sarah Vaughter » Multiple sclerosis is Lyme disease: Anatomy of a cover-up

    Esri ArcWatch October 2007 - Spatial Patterns of Disease Inspire New Ideas on Possible Causes

    The Great Imitator - Lyme Facts

    ALS study_ Lyme found in 100% of ALS Patients | What is Lyme Disease?

    Lyme Disease: Misdiagnosed, Underreported
    This video is very interesting...(Under Our Skin)

    Hulu - Under Our Skin - Watch the full movie now.

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    sarah vaughter is a dangerous quack. a modern day snake oil salesman.



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    Quote Originally Posted by witchcurlgirl View Post
    sarah vaughter is a dangerous quack. a modern day snake oil salesman.
    Perhaps, but it doesn't change the fact that many cases of MS,ALS,etc are actually Lyme Disease. It's an epidemic that is not being addressed.

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    It's not an epidemic. There are occasional misdiagnoses, which happens with autoimmune diseases.

    I'm no fan of big pharma, et al, but people disseminting bullshit like that is horrible. ALS and MS are fatal diseases, Lyme is not except in the rarest cases.



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    MS is not fatal except in very rare cases. Otherwise I'm right behind you. There is so much misinformation about MS its just sickening. MS is very hard to diagnose (as are all the other autoimmunes), but I would imagine what misdiagnoses there are skew away from MS rather than toward. The key is in finding the right doctor.

    And yes lynnie, women with MS have a harder time because of normal hormone fluctuations, so its very possible that pregnancy hormones brought symptoms to light that would have been ignored for a longer period of time. It didn't "bring it on", she already had MS, the hormones just made it noticeable enough to get checked out.
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    ^^

    MS is tough because it just slowly degenerates the body while the mind remains active. The lady who used to babysit me when I was in pre school has had MS for years, and it's now quite advanced. She's been confined to a wheelchair for years, has to have a colostomy bag as she lost control of her bladder and bowels some time ago, is losing her vision and the list just goes on. Saddest thing is that in order to get the hands on care she needs to get, she has to live in a high needs nursing home, has done since she was in her 40s. The other people in the home are really old, decrepit and (more often than not) in advanced stages of dementia. I went to visit her a few times and it's just so depressing what this disease does to you. And it takes time.

    Jack will be fine for years and years, but slowly, behind the scenes, his body will revolt against him and crumble around him. I feel so sorry for him, but I think he will fight it for as long as he can. And he has the advantage of all the treatment money can buy, which my family's friend doesn't
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