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    Quote Originally Posted by stef View Post
    thanks princessmofo for the link!
    i've watched some of her interviews on YT now. im some, she comes across as a really bad actress, in others, like a german interview, she comes across as quite sincere to me. that german interview actually changed my "gut feeling" about her. her being weird in interviews - maybe some advisers told her to act more emotional and that's why sometimes she comes actross as a bad actress, because she is actually acting (pause and breathe deeply, etc.). the public accused her of being cold and emotionless (and therefore guilty), and maybe she's trying to portray herself differently now, hence the acting. just a thought.
    this could be wrong though and she might as well be a crazy sociopath who got away with murder.


    i agree with this:



    no matter how unlikeable and weird someone is, you can't put them in jail without evidence just because your gut feeling tells you to do so
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    But we are ,erely gossiping about her. We're not the police, prosecutors or the jury.... We are just the court of Public Opinion.

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    Gawker strung together some of Chris Cuomo's questions of Knox:


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    ^ Are we supposed to feel sorry for her? She is doing a book tour to promote herself and make some money out of a murder. Presumably the questions arose out of the information she has put in her book to make it sell.

    Regarding the small extract from her interview above, I note that she 'tries' to give good memories to the bereaved family about their daughter but I don't see any grief (hmm, remorse) about Meredith herself unless she does this elsewhere. It seems detached and rehearsed to me and even then it's coming out wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stef View Post
    thanks princessmofo for the link!
    i've watched some of her interviews on YT now. im some, she comes across as a really bad actress, in others, like a german interview, she comes across as quite sincere to me. that german interview actually changed my "gut feeling" about her. her being weird in interviews - maybe some advisers told her to act more emotional and that's why sometimes she comes actross as a bad actress, because she is actually acting (pause and breathe deeply, etc.). the public accused her of being cold and emotionless (and therefore guilty), and maybe she's trying to portray herself differently now, hence the acting. just a thought.
    this could be wrong though and she might as well be a crazy sociopath who got away with murder.
    I honestly don't know of any guilt or innocence with her only that the truth of what happened to Meredith still isnt' known.. I dont think she's telling the truth but what about I can't really say..


    Quote Originally Posted by rollo View Post
    ^ Are we supposed to feel sorry for her? She is doing a book tour to promote herself and make some money out of a murder. Presumably the questions arose out of the information she has put in her book to make it sell.

    Regarding the small extract from her interview above, I note that she 'tries' to give good memories to the bereaved family about their daughter but I don't see any grief (hmm, remorse) about Meredith herself unless she does this elsewhere. It seems detached and rehearsed to me and even then it's coming out wrong.

    I think there is a gawker article that says her prison diary is not matching up to what she is saying in her book... was it gawker. wait i think it was huffington post..

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    She is giving ammunition to the prosecution by writing a book in the first place. They should compare it to Sollecito's book too for inconsistencies.

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    And she'd claim Artistic licence, and the change her story, then say that her publisher beat her whilst doing gymnastics in the hallway.
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    She's innocent like Casey Anthony.
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    I'm surprised someone hasn't posted this already - and I didn't see a separate thread.


    Amanda Knox Court Cites Abandoned Theory of Sex Game Gone Wrong - ABC News

    Amanda Knox Court Cites Abandoned Theory of Sex Game Gone Wrong

    The Italian Supreme Court handling Amanda Knox's murder case released its reasoning today and cited prosecutors' early theory that her roommate Meredith Kercher died in an "erotic game" that got out of hand, a motive that the prosecution abandoned during the initial trial.
    Knox spent four years in prison after being convicted of Kercher's 2007 murder in Perugia, Italy, where they were roommates while studying abroad. Kercher was from England while Knox was from Seattle.
    An Italian appeals court threw out her murder conviction in 2011. In March, however, the Italian Supreme Court rejected the Appeals Court ruling and ordered a new trial for Knox and her ex-boyfriend Raffaele Sollecito.
    The Supreme Court today filed its "motivation," a written document that spells out the court's reasoning.
    The court's 74 page document indicates that the Supreme Court judges supported the prosecutors' original theory that Kercher possibly died during a forced "erotic game" that got violent, according to the Italian news agency AGI.
    The Supreme Court judges are not judging the merit or worth of the testimony or evidence, but rather the process that the Appeals Court used to reach its verdict.
    The judges said the appeal had to be annulled "due to the multiple shortcomings, contradictory events and manifest lack of logical reasoning."


    The sex game gone wrong theory was initially suggested by the prosecutors, but the motive later evolved during the trial into simmering enmity between the women because Knox allegedly brought boys home late at night and was sloppy, and Kercher allegedly accused her of stealing money. The defense ended the first trial by telling the jury sometimes people commit violence without a motive.
    The judges' document mentioned looking at a "wide range of possible hypothetical options," including "the change in a program which at first only included the involvement of the English young woman in a sex game which she didn't share, to exclusively forcing her into a group kinky erotic game, which exploded, getting out of control."
    Knox's lawyer Carlo Dalla Vedova said he disagreed with the court's ruling.
    "We respect the Supreme Court's decision, but we do not agree with it," Vedova told ABC News. "All the facts the discuss were analyzed already. So now we simply re-start and re-do the case. We are ready to start again in Florence, and we are looking forward to defending Amanda. She is completely innocent."
    Vedova said that since the same evidence will be presented as in the appeals court that acquitted Knox, "We expect the same results. We are not worried."
    The defense attorney for Sollecito said the ruling was not a surprise to her.
    "It is more or less what we expected," attorney Giulia Bongiorno told Italian news agency ANSA. "The Supreme Court has in fact asked for a deep analysis of the investigation and evidence. But we don't fear any further analysis."
    "If there was an erotic game they should find the other protagonists as they are certainly not Raffaele Sollecito and Amanda Knox," Bongiorno said.
    "The scientific evidence proves in fact that there are no DNA traces of Sollecito and Knox at the scene of the crime," she said.
    The judges also pointed out a number of other issues in the "motivation" that they reportedly believe were not properly dealt with including specific witnesses and timeline issues.

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    Why is Sollecito's attorney speaking for Knox?

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    If anyone's curious, they're going to be announcing the verdict of the retrial ( or appeal of the appeal? ) in a few minutes, or up to 1/2 hour.
    There's a live stream: Amanda Knox Live Stream | WildAboutTrial.com

    Rafael was there today, but apparently has now left to an undisclosed location for the reading of the verdict.
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    Watching this...I cannot understand what they are saying, two people talking at once in 2 languages. Thanks for posting it! maybe they will say at the end.

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    Both found guilty. Not guilty verdict from appeal overturned. Sentenced to 28 years and 6 months in prison.

    It was really hard to understand. I couldn't hear the translator over the judge but that's apparently what happened.
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    My Edit won't work ^^, reading on the twitter feed that they found her Guilty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CL** View Post
    Both found guilty. Not guilty verdict from appeal overturned. Sentenced to 28 years and 6 months in prison.

    It was really hard to understand. I couldn't hear the translator over the judge but that's apparently what happened.
    Thanks! Yes, so hard to understand.
    Some info in here on extradition: http://www.cnn.com/2014/01/30/world/...ict-explainer/
    Whatever is decided Thursday may not mean the case is closed. Either side can appeal a verdict they are unhappy with, under Italy's three-strike trial system. This could also mean the case would continue with no immediate outcome.Even if Knox is convicted this time around, it is unlikely she will ever return to Italy. One legal expert told CNN that since U.S. law dictates that a person cannot be tried twice on the same charge, she will not be extradited. "Under U.S. law, she was once put in jeopardy and later acquitted," said Sean Casey, a former prosecutor who is now a partner at Kobre & Kim in New York. "Under the treaty, extradition should not be granted."Speaking before the retrial, Casey added that the many flaws in the original verdict would also give Knox protection.There is a valid extradition agreement between the two nations, but the U.S. has not set much of a precedence in returning suspects for such matters. Italians point to a number of high-profile cases over the years in which they say American suspects have been accused of wrongdoing and criminal acts, but have been let off lightly.
    What happens to Sollecito?
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    He's supposedly holed up somewhere there. I imagine he's going to have to turn himself in, or they're going to get him. Crazy!

    I have no opinion on whether they are guilty or not at this point. I tried reading the evidence stuff a while back but it was such a mess. All these experts who say guilty, not guilty. It's insane. All I know is that the Italian court system seems super fucked up with this case, so it's hard for me to feel any verdict either way is "just" with them.
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