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    Fiona looks like shit and I'm guessing she has some problems that may be of the self-destructive variety. BUT, I fully agree with those that abhor people "heckling" a concert as a way to respond, even if you're facing a shitty performance. Someone in my city just wrote an article about how this might be a trend here, although I really think it's about how people now are immersed in social media and think their every opinion is important and that there's no barrier between yourself and the event you're watching. Some dickweed here yelled at Aimee Mann, "are you here to tell stories or sing??!" as if she's everyone's monkey that they have a right to control for the money they paid. It's an increasing lack of respect for artists in general, and not that Fiona might not need some wake-up call --I don't know-- but some random shithead in an audience is not the right person, nor entitled, to deliver it.

    Walking out early, however, is entirely different and legitimate, in my opinion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WhateverLolaWants View Post
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    I see no harm in leaving quietly. I don't understand heckling non-comedians, though, unless the performed is being truly disrespectful to their audience in some way.
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    ...Some dickweed here yelled at Aimee Mann, "are you here to tell stories or sing??!" as if she's everyone's monkey that they have a right to control for the money they paid. ...
    why would they heckle that? i thought that was aimee mann's shtick.

    i saw rufus wainwright (who i adore) in concert several years ago and the performance occurred a few months after his mother died. i understand that he was depressed and wanted to honor her, but basically the whole 1.5+ hour performance was a dirge. completely depressing and not what was advertised and definitely not his typical concert. i was disappointed but i couldn't imagine heckling him. fortunately, i saw him again the following year and his performance was typical for hiim - he was a showman and entertainer. whew!

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    I'm a bit torn on this one. If an artist is having emotional problems, bereavement, etc and they want to process it by indulging in some cathartic self-indulgence that's OK but expecting people to pay (sometimes a lot) to attend the pity party isn't fair. I don't condone heckling but totally understand why it can happen.
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    We left a Dave Mathews concert halfway through. It was the most boring concert I've ever been to in my life.
    I feel bad for Fionna. There is no pretty way out of this. I hope she's going to be okay. Whatever is going on with her looks critical.
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    I know people who heckled Cat Power when she mumbled incoherently for half a song before hiding under the piano and eventually being taken off stage by security. But that's what she was like back then so I think they should have known what to expect. Same with Brian Jonestown Massacre, they were notorious for their shambolic stage shows but people were pissed off that they wasted money on a ticket. Did they think Anton was going to lounge around in a smoking jacket being urbane and witty between crooning classic hits?
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    When your skull is sunken in at the side of your eyes you are definitely suffering from malnutrition

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    She does look unhealthy, but why would you heckle a mentally unstable person you claim to like?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ribbit View Post
    She could have an illness she is keeping private. WTF is wrong with people???
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    She looks like a friend of mine who died from colon cancer. She kept it a secret from all of us until the week before she left to go back home to Israel to die. She didn't want pity. Even though I'm doubting that this is the situation with Fiona Apple, Fiona's comment that she wanted the lights up as she was escorted from the room is striking to me. Because if she is really having devastating health issues, Fiona might have wanted this woman's face to be seen by everyone. So that later she'd be ostracized for screaming at a sick woman to "Get healthy. We want to see you in 10 years." I imagine Michael J Fox went through similar issues on his show when people were thinking he's a diva or on drugs, never knowing his health issues. Who knows, but if you don't know, err on the side of decency.
    so... you're saying mocking an illness is only ok when it's Miley fucking Cyrus? cause you seem totally ok with her attacking a mentally ill person in that other thread.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mel1973 View Post
    so... you're saying mocking an illness is only ok when it's Miley fucking Cyrus? cause you seem totally ok with her attacking a mentally ill person in that other thread.
    Mental illness. You know, doesn't count as a real illness, just means you're a pussy who needs to buck up 'n' chin up 'n' stuff.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mel1973 View Post
    so... you're saying mocking an illness is only ok when it's Miley fucking Cyrus? cause you seem totally ok with her attacking a mentally ill person in that other thread.

    I said both Miley and Sinead were stupid bitches for bringing up Amanda Bynes and Britney Spear's mental illness. You on the other hand have openly mocked Britney and Amanda Bynes and others.

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    may be too late for the pink wig.. happy birthday anyway, you crazy little bald eagle!

    It's ok to mock mental illness if it's a joke...............cause..............oh I get it, you made the joke so it's ok. And that's one example.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ribbit View Post
    She could have an illness she is keeping private. WTF is wrong with people???
    Quote Originally Posted by ribbit View Post
    I said both Miley and Sinead were stupid bitches for bringing up Amanda Bynes and Britney Spear's mental illness. You on the other hand have openly mocked Britney and Amanda Bynes and others.




    It's ok to mock mental illness if it's a joke...............cause..............oh I get it, you made the joke so it's ok. And that's one example.
    actually, that comment had more to do with HAIR than mental illness. you know, since Nicole didn't actually have any mental illness. Now, why don't you go post stalk me some more, you sad little excuse.
    ETA: and if there's so many examples of me mocking Britney and Amanda, why don't you quote those too and save the rest of us some time?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mel1973 View Post
    actually, that comment had more to do with HAIR than mental illness. you know, since Nicole didn't actually have any mental illness. Now, why don't you go post stalk me some more, you sad little excuse.
    ETA: and if there's so many examples of me mocking Britney and Amanda, why don't you quote those too and save the rest of us some time?

    So you are saying that your use of "pink wig" was to do with baldness in a fun and happy way? You're saying that the term "pink wig" is not in reference to Britney's mental break down. Really? Wow I guess I stand corrected. I'm not going to post all the rest of the comments you've made mocking them. I'm sure there will be a reason I've completely misunderstood those as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ribbit View Post
    So you are saying that your use of "pink wig" was to do with baldness in a fun and happy way? You're saying that the term "pink wig" is not in reference to Britney's mental break down. Really? Wow I guess I stand corrected. I'm not going to post all the rest of the comments you've made mocking them. I'm sure there will be a reason I've completely misunderstood those as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ribbit View Post
    So you are saying that your use of "pink wig" was to do with baldness in a fun and happy way? You're saying that the term "pink wig" is not in reference to Britney's mental break down. Really? Wow I guess I stand corrected. I'm not going to post all the rest of the comments you've made mocking them. I'm sure there will be a reason I've completely misunderstood those as well.
    You really do have a problem playing well with others don't you.

    For the record - pink wig: Urban Dictionary: pink wig

    pink wig
    1. A woman so far below your standards that you would never hook up with her. A female that is not hot. Like not even close. If she were the only woman in the bar at closing time, you wouldn't take her home.
    2. A conversation ending phrase when talking to a girl that is below beer goggle standards. Used to connote that small talk is going nowhere and she's not getting lucky.
    3. A slightly less derogatory alternative to brown bagging.

    1. You're such a pink wig, stay away.
    2. Girl (5 minutes into conversation): So, want to go somewhere quiet where we can get to know each other better and really connect ...
    Guy: Pink wig! Pink wig! Pink wig!
    3. A: Man she's got a busted face.
    W: She has a slammin' body. I'd still pink wig her.


    hmmmm not one mention of mental illness.

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