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    Must be a hard year to be a Sci. No mercy!

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    yeah, they're comin' out of the wood work. Apparently, as Grimm said, 'super genius' L Ron Hubbard didn't anticipate the effect the internet would have on his cult. Then again, he was the product of an 'advanced culture' that used DC8's for space travel - so what do you expect?

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    Best part of the article - L Ron may have 'plagerized' Scientology from a 1932 German sci fi novel.

    L Ron Hubbard plagiarized Scientology? - Boing Boing
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    ^Amazing how they deify a man who was a fraud on so many levels!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellatheball View Post
    Venus, you evil bird you!


    I still think the Co$ got ahold of Andrew Morton. There is no other explaination for his description of Tofu Tom as a ladies man.
    I am only on the first few chapters right now, but I am getting the feeling that A.M. may be overdoing the macho man stuff.

    I snickered when I read the caption under one of the photos:
    "Babyfaced eighteen yr olds Tom Cruise and friend Bill Clapps FOOLED AROUND with shaving cream BEARDS when they hung out at a beach house in laavallette NJ."

    Just struck me as funny for some reason.

    The AM macho thing is almost in the vein of he doth protesteth too much. IMO. In one recollection, he was on a date and the play they were at was a gay themed play, and Tom left midplay. I mean, I attribute that type of behavior to closet queerism.

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    Default Is Scientology Satanic?

    It seems that Scientology has more than german sci fi going for it. Here's something from Page 6.

    THE trendiest religion in Hollywood was founded on the teachings of a Satanist, a new essay by Camille Paglia claims.
    The Church of Scientology - which boasts Tom Cruise, John Travolta, Lisa Marie Presley, Hilary Swank, Juliette Lewis and Kirstie Alley among its members - was founded by science-fiction writer L. Ron Hubbard. According to an article by Paglia in Boston University's Arion journal, Hubbard got many of his ideas from infamous devil worshipper Alistair Crowley.
    "Hubbard had met Crowley in the latter's Los Angeles temple in 1945," Paglia writes. "Hubbard's son reveals that Hubbard claimed to be Crowley's successor: Hubbard told him that Scientology was born on the day that Crowley died."
    According to the article, Scientologists perform some of the same rites that Crowley invented, all designed to free practitioners from human guilt.
    "Drills used by Scientologists to cleanse and clarify the mind are evidently a reinterpretation of Crowley's singular fusion of Asian meditation and Satanic ritualism, which sharpens the all-conquering will . . . Guilt and remorse, in the Crowley way, are mere baggage to be jettisoned," Paglia says.
    She writes that Crowley, a Nazi sympathizer who used opiates and hallucinogens and called himself "The Great Beast," advocated total sexual freedom, including orgies and bestiality.
    Long after his death in 1947, the diabolist attracted even bigger followers than Hubbard, who founded Scientology in 1954.
    "Crowley's influence fell heavily on the late sixties and seventies . . . The Beatles inserted Crowley's face (back row, second from left) in the cartoon cover collage of their landmark 'Sgt. Pepper' album," Paglia writes. In fact, some people say the famous first line of the album, "It was 20 years ago today," is a reference to the year of Crowley's demise.
    Other Crowley fans include Ozzy Osbourne, who dedicated an entire song to him on his first solo album. David Bowie refers to Crowley and his cult, The Golden Dawn, on his early song "Quicksand," and Led Zeppelin's Jimmy Page bought Crowley's mansion, Boleskin House, in Scotland.

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    I'd be interested in reading that article. Paglia is certainly someone who would never be scared of the Scientologists!

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    Exclamation Anonymous responds to LA Times article

    New Anonymous You Tube video posted several days ago about last week's LA Times article regarding the Ex-Scientology kids website.

    Text from the video below.
    [youtube]jAYIwUbVyvk[/youtube]

    Dear Staff, Editors, writers and owners of the los angeles times,

    this is anonymous.

    it was with some surprise that your article, was received. We are encouraged by the content, and the article's prominence on the front pages.

    We wish to show solidarity with David Sarno; we too know the pressures he faces, the tactics the Church of Scientology employs to carefully control their image. His article is not consistent with the persona, the front that Scientology tries to project, and we know they are therefore not happy with him. We know the lengths to which Scientology goes, when they are unhappy with a journalist.

    Anonymous understands the harassment you the media, experience when writing articles about Scientology. We understand that it is easier to not write that article, and not have to endure the barrage of harassing phone calls and visits from Church Members.

    We hope that Sarno's article is not merely an example of bravery, but is indicative of a change in the atmosphere of fear that the Church of Scientology has created throughout the media.

    While this article pleases us, we are not yet celebrating. We saw with dismay that it was featured in your entertainment section. Beyond the more easily mockable, asinine and ultimately innocuous space opera theology, there is little about scientology that is entertaining.

    The media have until now, done little to shed light on the corruption, cruelty and abuses of the organization that calls itself the church of scientology

    previous articles have often repeated the lies about anonymous that the Church of Scientology have published in press releases, and countered them with the mildest of claims we make in our many voices. We look forward to articles where both the claims of the church and of anonymous are investigated. We look forward to the return of true journalistic integrity. We do not ask you to sacrifice your objectivity, merely that you shed your ignorance. We do not wish for any of our claims to be taken at face value. Do not regard us as an authority. We are merely a resource. Likewise, do not accept the Church of Scientology as an authority. We both make claims, Whose are closer to the truth. It is your job as journalists to investigate those claims and report those which have merit.

    any investigations into our group does not intimidate us. Does it intimidate the church of scientology. Do they call for a thorough investigation of our claims. Or do they merely call us names, as they've done with all other critical voices.

    The word intimidation comes up often in this war. The Office of Special Affairs intimidates critics. They intimidate journalists. They intimidate ex-scientologists.

    They do not intimidate us. Nor does any fair and thorough investigation into us by the media.

    Such investigations do intimidate our adversaries . We hope you will soon explain why.

    While we acknowledge your efforts, efforts that no doubt your legal advisors consider brave.

    It is saddening however, that for even these issues to be alluded to by the media, it takes testimonies, that result in three young women becoming vulnerable to attacks, of a nature that most members of the public would not believe could occur in the modern world, outside of the more oppressive of the totalitarian regimes. Despite this, the reporting of yours, and other news organizations, fail to discuss the forced labor in the Sea org, the coerced abortions, the disconnection policy , the sweatshop wages and living conditions of Sea Org workers, the vicious perversion of the facts of modern psychiatry and psychology for their own personal gain

    And still you only allude. not that we are ungrateful, but why not report on these issues. why hide behind the voices of the young victims of the church of scientologys policies? are you being cosseted and protected by maternally protective law firms, or will you eventually find your own voice, your own conviction, and speak of what you know is occurring on your own doorstep.

    As our campaign progresses, the numbers of those who look towards the press, with skeptical eyes will grow. minds whirring with thoughts of conspiracy and collusion. Are your interests in truth and the reporting of facts, or in the minimizing of the workload of your legal team

    At present, the Church is working to distract you the press, from their atrocities. The so-called Citizens Commission on Human Rights, a Scientology front organization, is pushing a campaign against Psychiatry. While we welcome an honest dialogue about the merits of treating mental illness with drugs and the merits of treating it with therapy, we must warn you against their strategy of railing against Psychiatry as a covert way to recruit for their cult and to distract from the evils that they themselves commit.

    The reputation of the free press is at stake, you should consider maintaining your integrity as high a priority as we regard the seeking of amusement.

    Your contribution to enlightening of the public is welcomed, but as always, we simply demand more, more more.

    we are anonymous
    we are legion
    we do not forgive
    we do not forget

    the ides of march approaches.

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    they really need to find someone with a proper grasp of english to write this shit. the grammar is fucking horrible.
    I am from the American CIA and I have a radio in my head. I am going to kill you.

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    ^and to use capitalization when they type!

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    Default Expect them when you least expect them?

    So what's gonna happen on the 15th of March?? It's an interesting tactic, because it puts Scientology under the pressure of waiting for something to happen. It puts them in suspense. Will anything actually happen, though??

    BTW didn't Camille Paglia write the Gnostic Gospels?

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    Hilary Swank is a Clam? Since when?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AgentOrange View Post
    BTW didn't Camille Paglia write the Gnostic Gospels?
    I think you're thinking of Elaine Pagels. Elaine Pagels - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Camille Paglia has written a lot on pop culture. She's had a column on salon.com from time to time.

    Camille Paglia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Quote Originally Posted by AgentOrange View Post
    So what's gonna happen on the 15th of March?? It's an interesting tactic, because it puts Scientology under the pressure of waiting for something to happen. It puts them in suspense. Will anything actually happen, though??
    Sounds like there's another protest. I posted some of the info I found on it in a different thread.

    Quote Originally Posted by Brookie View Post
    Hilary Swank is a Clam? Since when?
    I've never heard that. Is it posted in this thread? I missed it.

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    Thumbs up Operation Party Hard (3/15/08) & Operation Reconnect (4/12/08)

    Here's some more info on Anonymous' upcoming events.

    ANONYMOUS PREPARE FOR ANOTHER WORLDWIDE PROTEST AGAINST THE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY

    CLEARWATER, FLORIDA. March 8, 2008 — As Project Chanology continues, thousands of people worldwide will stage a protest on March 15th against the Church of Scientology's corruption, and abuse of its members and critics. The group Anonymous, will picket at local Church of Scientology centers around the world, beginning at 11 a.m. local time in each respective time zone. Anonymous has been increasing awareness for the cause, whilst simultaneously acquiring and spreading new information about the Church of Scientology obtained from their increasing number of informants within the organization, as part of its campaign to "systematically dismantle the Church of Scientology in it's present form".

    A number of former Scientology members who had previously been afraid to give their own testimonies for fear of retribution from church officials have joined the movement, and a number of new websites informing the public about Scientology have been launched. Of special note is ExScientologyKids.com[1], known as "ESK" within the critic community. The ESK website is owned and administered by Kendra Wiseman, Astra Woodcraft and Jenna Miscavige-Hill. All three women are former members who grew up in Scientology, and are related to high ranking officials of the Church of Scientology and its associated front-groups. Kendra Wiseman is the daughter of the President of the Citizens Commission on Human Rights (CCHR)[2], and niece of the President of Narconon[3]. Jenna Miscavige-Hill is the niece of the Chairman of the Board of Religious Technology Center (RTC) David Miscavige, who is generally considered to be the "Leader" of the Church of Scientology.

    Both Kendra and Jenna have been "disconnected" by their family since leaving the church. Astra, whose mother is a high-ranking Sea Org[4] member, fled the Sea Org when they insisted she terminate her pregnancy. ESK tells these stories, and the stories of many other former Scientology children. Kendra Wiseman has said that in light of the recent efforts of Anonymous, and because of the efforts of those who have supported her over the last two years while she dealt with her families disconnection from her, she has been made to feel safe in speaking out and now wants to afford the same luxury to others, who may not feel as safe. Douglas Frantz, a former editor at the L.A. Times who has covered Scientology for the New York Times in the 1990s has said "Before this Internet onslaught, they were always able to go after their critics and do a good job of being able to discredit or intimidate them"[5].

    The date of the March 15th Protest, referred to as "Operation Party Hard" and "The Ides of March" has been chosen as it falls near a major Scientology holiday, the birthday of Church founder L. Ron Hubbard. The 15th also marks the death of Ellie Perkins, a Scientologist who was killed by her son Jeremy. Jeremy, a sufferer of the disease of schizophrenia was denied Psychiatric drugs, and was instead treated with vitamins and auditing[6]. Anonymous intends to continue its campaign to educate the public about the true nature of the Church of Scientology; with the March 15th protest, and future events such as Operation Reconnect.

    Scheduled to take place during April, Operation Reconnect[7] will shine a spotlight on families torn apart by the Church of Scientology. The aim is to bring these families together, with a number of the "disconnected" giving detailed accounts of their experience with Scientology and making public pleas to their families to "reconnect" with them.

    On the 15th of March, Anonymous intends to bring "cake, good will and the gift of knowledge." As usual, Anonymous have contacted and worked with city officials to ensure safe and law-abiding protests. Many protesters will wear masks, scarves and other facial obstructions to protect their identities due to organization’s practice of intimidating and silencing those that speak out against it.

    Promotional Videos:

    - March 15th - Operation Party Hard - The Ides of March -
    - [youtube] - YouTube - Operation Party Hard - The Ides of March
    - [download raw file - mp4 format] - http://img1.anonbw.com/press/MARCHPRESS.mp4

    - April 12th - Operation Reconnect -
    - [youtube] - YouTube - Operation Reconnect April 12th
    - [download raw file - wmv format] - http://img1.anonbw.com/press/Reconnect.wmv

    - Download PDF of this Press Release:
    - http://img1.anonbw.com/press/march_press_release.pdf

    About Anonymous:

    Anonymous is a collective composed of many Internet users, combined under one name. The group have gained influence both on the Internet and in the real world.
    Anonymous have launched campaigns against various White Supremacy entities, and played a major role in the capture of Canadian pedophile Chris Forcand.
    Anonymous has been referred to as a "Cyber Vigilante Group" by The Toronto Sun[8], "Internet Activists" by The Economist[9], "the latest thorn in Scientology's side" by Newsweek[10] and "cyber-terrorists...reminiscent of Al Qaeda spreading anti-American hatred and calling for U.S. destruction" by the "Church" of Scientology[5].

    References:
    [1] http://www.ExScientologyKids.com
    [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_C ... man_Rights
    [3] Narconon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    [4] Sea Org - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    [5] http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/ne ... full.story
    [6] http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/JeremyPerkins/
    [7] Operation Reconnect
    [8] http://torontosun.com/News/TorontoAndGT ... 8-sun.html
    [9] http://www.economist.com/world/internat ... d=10609174
    [10] 'Anonymous' Takes on Scientology | Newsweek Technology | Newsweek.com

    Anonymous : Project Chanology Information:

    The Ides of March - Fight the Church of Scientology - Ask us Why
    Operation Reconnect
    http://www.WhyWeProtest.net
    Enturbulation.org » Welcome to the Enturbulation Community
    Project Chanology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    CoSplay -- Find local anons and coordinate raid operations!
    Enturbulation.org – View topic - PRESS RELEASE: March 15th and Operation Reconnect

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    Originally Posted by Brookie
    Hilary Swank is a Clam? Since when?
    I've never heard that. Is it posted in this thread? I missed it.
    It's in Agent Orange's post (thread post #65) above, which quotes Page Six. I think Page Six is incorrect though. At least I hope so.

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    Hmm, I've never heard of her as one before. Possibly they made a mistake or perhaps she only made a courtesy visit like Ryan Reynolds and ScarJo did last year.

    Looks like Page 6 is reposting old info. I found the same info here quoted from NY Post in March of 2003:
    Scientology: a Satanic link?

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