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    Isabella is an unfortunate looking girl, who seems to be going
    through the motions for her attention whoring "father" and
    stepmom.
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    I feel bad for her...She looks unhappy and isn't that a cardinal sin in Scientology? I bet she gets audited all the time.

    I feel doubly bad for her because I think a lot of celebrity kids are poorly prepared to make it on their own anyway--if you add to that being home-schooled and brought up in a cult, I don't think being almost 18 means a whole lot.

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    I'd probably look unhappy with the paps following me too. I don't think you can tell much from a few photos necessarily. But she must have a very strange life.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Popsicle View Post
    Last year when I was in the states I saw that naff TV advert Keith Urban did about visiting Tennessee and he mentioned his daughter and wife, just them. Makes you think he has nothing to do with Connor or Isabella, maybe he doesn't think of them as his kids... sad.
    Wasn't there a rumor that Tom Cruise strong armed Nicole and refused to allow her to have the children in Urban's presence after he relapsed right after their marriage? I wonder if that is part of it, though, I do find it hard to believe that a true mother would allow anyone to stand in the way of her spending time with her kids the way SHE wanted to...but this is Tom Cruise we are talking about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorce View Post
    Wasn't there a rumor that Tom Cruise strong armed Nicole and refused to allow her to have the children in Urban's presence after he relapsed right after their marriage? I wonder if that is part of it, though, I do find it hard to believe that a true mother would allow anyone to stand in the way of her spending time with her kids the way SHE wanted to...but this is Tom Cruise we are talking about.
    I heard something similar. That Nicole was basically strong armed out of her kids life. Because Isabella and Connor were surrounded by Scientologists who made Nicole out to be dangerous and to be avoided at all costs (an SP in Scientology terms), the kids (being young and impressionable) wanted nothing to do with their mother.

    Nicole was forced to communicate at one point by email with her kids. Typical cult behaviour - the kids get cut off completely and alienated from close family members and it happens in Scientology a lot.

    Hopefully, as Isabella and Connor get older, they will get closer to Nicole again and start to distance themselves from Scientology.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorce View Post
    Wasn't there a rumor that Tom Cruise strong armed Nicole and refused to allow her to have the children in Urban's presence after he relapsed right after their marriage? I wonder if that is part of it, though, I do find it hard to believe that a true mother would allow anyone to stand in the way of her spending time with her kids the way SHE wanted to...but this is Tom Cruise we are talking about.
    It's debatable. For every heckler about Tom there are far more now that think Nicole is off her rocker. There have been so many alledged rumours her kid isn't even hers and Urban is a beard. For them to have married she can't have been completely normal right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sorce View Post
    Wasn't there a rumor that Tom Cruise strong armed Nicole and refused to allow her to have the children in Urban's presence after he relapsed right after their marriage? I wonder if that is part of it, though, I do find it hard to believe that a true mother would allow anyone to stand in the way of her spending time with her kids the way SHE wanted to...but this is Tom Cruise we are talking about.
    I think that's probably the most likely scenario - whether it's through blackmailable knowledge on Nicole or a distrust of Keith, I reckon Tom has pressured them into not pushing for the kids.

    And, as someone pointed out, Tom's the sort of slimy, manipulative bastard who would fill the kids up with guilt for spending time with their mum who isn't in the cult, and then do the whole "but it's your decision" thing (with the subtext taht you must make the right decision)

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    I don't think Nicole "famewhores" Sunday. There aren't that many pictures of them out there. She was soooo protective of Connor and Isabella when they were babies. She wouldn't even talk about them in interviews because it wasn't their choice to be raised by famous parents. When Isabella and Connor were little the paparazzi weren't as celeb-kid crazy as they are now. Internet blogs/gossips sites weren't as huge as they are now -- it's a different world.

    I'm not saying Nicole doesn't have her issues, like a poster said, anyone choosing to marry Tom would, but it seems to me that Tom has strong-armed her to no end.

    Wasn't there an item about Nicole letting Bella color her hair blue when she was in Australia with her for a visit and Tom had a fit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Popsicle View Post
    It's debatable. For every heckler about Tom there are far more now that think Nicole is off her rocker. There have been so many alledged rumours her kid isn't even hers and Urban is a beard. For them to have married she can't have been completely normal right?
    Rumours. Here is a picture of Nicole (taken with a long zoom lens) where she is obviously pregnant.


    Her marriage to Urban looks very happy and normal to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wiseguy View Post
    Nicole was forced to communicate at one point by email with her kids. Typical cult behaviour - the kids get cut off completely and alienated from close family members and it happens in Scientology a lot.

    Hopefully, as Isabella and Connor get older, they will get closer to Nicole again and start to distance themselves from Scientology.
    Oh, I hadn't heard this part of the rumor but that is heartbreaking. Yes, it seems this is a common practice in Scientology. I hope those kids run for their lives once they become of age.

    Quote Originally Posted by Popsicle View Post
    It's debatable. For every heckler about Tom there are far more now that think Nicole is off her rocker. There have been so many alledged rumours her kid isn't even hers and Urban is a beard. For them to have married she can't have been completely normal right?
    I've heard that rumor too but I am less likely to believe the one about her child not being her bio-kid. Not saying it is impossible but there have been some pretty convincing shots of her pregnant. If Nic is a lesbian, I am not sure what Keith Urban would get out of being her beard. With most other couples, you can see how it works but that one stumps me.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sassiness View Post
    And, as someone pointed out, Tom's the sort of slimy, manipulative bastard who would fill the kids up with guilt for spending time with their mum who isn't in the cult, and then do the whole "but it's your decision" thing (with the subtext taht you must make the right decision)
    I'm sure that is exactly the approach used. And with the fact that they are home schooled, it must be difficult to get the exposure to conflicting and varying ideas and beliefs that are necessary to help ups think independently. Not saying this is always the case with home schooling but it is easier to manipulate a child when they have less exposure to varied human beings and belief systems.

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    You can see Nicole's baby is hers anyway, she does look like her. I remember Ted Casablanca commenting on the situation with her other children and suggesting something along the lines of Tom being the better parent.

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    Are we on this Nicole-wasn't-really-pregnant kick again? During her pregnancy, I posted pictures of her on the beach in a bikini. It was rather obvious that she was. Kind of hard to hide a belly in a bikini.
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    In the situation these kids appear to be in, I don't think Tom is the "better" parent, he's more or less the "only" parent, the way it's alleged that the custody situation has been set up. Those kids see way more Tom than Nicole (and if they live with his sister and are home-drilled by her and various other $cienominders, how much do they see of him) so if he's being called the "better" parent, it's by default. I would love to know what the actual arrangements are and how happy this young lady is about being stuck in those arrangements. I'm hoping that when she does turn 18, she exercises her rights to choose where she wants to be, and flees as far away from Tom as she can get.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Brookie View Post
    In the situation these kids appear to be in, I don't think Tom is the "better" parent, he's more or less the "only" parent, the way it's alleged that the custody situation has been set up. Those kids see way more Tom than Nicole (and if they live with his sister and are home-drilled by her and various other $cienominders, how much do they see of him) so if he's being called the "better" parent, it's by default. I would love to know what the actual arrangements are and how happy this young lady is about being stuck in those arrangements. I'm hoping that when she does turn 18, she exercises her rights to choose where she wants to be, and flees as far away from Tom as she can get.
    I think Ted was referring to before the kids just lived with Tom. I wish I could find the link but it was ages ago.

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    ^ Yeah, you may be right. Wasn't there a report from some nanny that said that Nicole hardly paid any attention to the kids?
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