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Old January 19th, 2008, 11:25 PM   #376 (permalink)
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Because these Co$ whackos are so arrogant, deluded and crazy they think they pull a PR stunt like this and get away with it. And if anyone seriously questions it - or any of the other weird and wonderful things they do - they have a team of heavy duty lawyers on standby who will intimidate, threaten and sue people into silence. That's how they operate.
You have a very valid point. Call me paranoid, but in my daily life, scientology is one of the only subjects I'm actually afraid to discuss openly, because I never know who's listening. We have a scientology center in our town. Being an American, the feeling of fear over talking about a certain subject is very foreign to me. They are bullies who will stop at nothing to take someone down just for voicing an opinion about them.

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Good point, but if they (TommyGirl and Katie) cared about their reputations so much would they do any of the crap that they do? Like him jumping on Oprah's couch? Or these anti psychiatry/scientology videos we've been seeing recently? I think they're so deluded that they might do something like this. They don't tend to really think about consequences (and apparently they didn't get any anyway).
You're right, which is why I'm still on the fence about this. What I find scary about what you brought up is that Tom really does believe ALL of us are wrong, and he is right. So to him, professing his beliefs across the country is the only "right" thing to do. He is completely brainwashed. I wonder if Katie is brainwashed too, or she just pretends to believe in scientology.

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Old January 19th, 2008, 11:54 PM   #377 (permalink)
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He was jumping on Oprah's couch because he thought that's how straight men ought to behave when they were madly in love with a woman.
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Old January 19th, 2008, 11:57 PM   #378 (permalink)
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He was jumping on Oprah's couch because he thought that's how straight men ought to behave when they were madly in love with a woman.
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Old January 20th, 2008, 01:00 AM   #379 (permalink)
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why does everyone care so much if she ran it or not? I think it would be crazy for her to pretend she ran if she didn't. Why would anyone want to pretend they ran a marathon? It really makes no sense to me at all. I wish someone would get to the bottom of this already.
Can't help but agree with this post.

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I am on the fence about whether or not she ran the whole race, but one of the reasons I'm doubting about her faking it is because it's too easy to prove that someone cheated in a race like that, and I doubt she would've taken the chance, and risked her reputation just for a marathon. Wouldn't she come up with something more foolproof?
One would think so.

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Because these Co$ whackos are so arrogant, deluded and crazy they think they pull a PR stunt like this and get away with it. And if anyone seriously questions it - or any of the other weird and wonderful things they do - they have a team of heavy duty lawyers on standby who will intimidate, threaten and sue people into silence. That's how they operate.
Possibly, but there's no real glory in being one of thousands to finish a marathon, especially when you're a movie star married to one of the richest men in Hollywood. I doubt even the Co$ would think it expedient to pay off thousands of onlookers and runners just so that Katie robot could win such a "distinction." Anything is possible tho...
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Old January 20th, 2008, 01:17 AM   #380 (permalink)
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Can you imagine if she didn't run this marathon? All the hosts would want to know about is the book, scientology, suris real dad etcetc. She wouldn't have anything to talk about other than her private life.

Look, Katie just doesn't look like the kind of "fit" to be a runner IMO.
She just doesn't look like the kind who could run for 5 hours and not be huffing and puffing, sweating, stopping and starting while her body aches, flinching, hands on knees while she catches her breath....Normal stuff that people who aren't regular runners would do.

If we had've seen pics of Katie regularly hitting the pavement for the last 12 months in preparation for this, then I'd be more likely to believe it.
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Old January 20th, 2008, 01:20 AM   #381 (permalink)
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^^The Cruises carefully control their publicity, including photographs. It's entirely possible she's been training like mad at various Co$ faciilites where believe me, no paps would ever infiltrate.
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Old January 20th, 2008, 02:05 AM   #382 (permalink)
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She said in an interview that she trained in Germany when GMD was filming. They don't have centres there and i honestly think that if Katie was out running there had to be someone who has a picture of that.

I can't conceive of why anyone would fake running a marathon--but just because there doesn't seem to be any valid reason why she would fake it, it doesn't mean she didn't .
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Old January 20th, 2008, 02:26 AM   #383 (permalink)
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She's hardly going to say that she trained at a Co$ facility, is she? They have them in Germany, and they were there. The Cruise Family in Berlin: Suri Visits Knut; Tom Meets Scientologists - International - SPIEGEL ONLINE - News

But who knows? I'm keeping an open mind.
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Old January 20th, 2008, 02:27 AM   #384 (permalink)
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Her running that marathon was an attention-getter, a message to the world that she is a strong woman to be taken seriously, who is highly determined and capable. I mean, running marathons is a BIG deal. Most people can't or won't hack it. It's an elite group who can do it. Katie being part of that group just adds to her image of being seriously goal-oriented and determined.

Like her husband.

I think it makes perfect sense for Tom & the Co$ to want the world to believe she ran that race. They are creating a new persona for her (they've been working on it for months & months) and this is just one more stitch in the tapestry.
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Old January 20th, 2008, 02:54 AM   #385 (permalink)
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I agree Lobelia - they are trying to reinvent her as this amazing wonderwoman, the living embodiment of what Co$ can do for you. Their PR machine realised that Katie was coming over as a vapid, passive fembot so they decided to give the world a different view. Unfortunately I don't think they did their homework about marathons and what they involve and just told her to join the runners for the last few miles so she could "Finish" for the waiting paps.

However, if they can produce proof that she did indeed run the whole 26 miles then I'm happy to eat crow.
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Old January 20th, 2008, 04:07 AM   #386 (permalink)
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A point of view from a poster on another site .....

".....There is so much security and checking, no one can "fake" running it. Geez. The guy/trainer, whatever with her probably took an old number, he probably owns his own chip, and he probably joined her after the Staten Island start, ran with her as support until he couldn't get any further - (they have marshalls pulling people who aren't wearing official numbers off the course before you re-enter the park at Columbus Circle).

I have no idea why he wore the bib or the chip, because anyone can run with someone after they clear the start and the bridge......until Columbus Circle........"

What do we think of that? I can't pick it apart as I have no idea how things work in the marathon.
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Old January 20th, 2008, 04:30 AM   #387 (permalink)
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I am on the fence about whether or not she ran the whole race, but one of the reasons I'm doubting about her faking it is because it's too easy to prove that someone cheated in a race like that, and I doubt she would've taken the chance, and risked her reputation just for a marathon. Wouldn't she come up with something more foolproof?
Why would someone shove a pillow under her shirt and call it a pregnancy? Why would someone marry a homosexual and calll it love? Why would someone join Scientology and call it faith?

That's right, cause she's batshit crazy.
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why does everyone care so much if she ran it or not?
Because we're bitter jealous fatties with no lives.
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Old January 20th, 2008, 10:11 AM   #389 (permalink)
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January 18, 2008
Katie Holmes Exclusive: OK! Puts Those Marathon Rumors to Rest








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Conspiracy theorists who say Katie Holmes didn't run the New York Marathon should do their homework first! OK! Magazine exclusively confirmed Katie's intent to run the marathon back in October--one month before the actual race.

And as for those "mystery men" running with her? OK! can confirm the actress ran the marathon accompanied by her trainer, Wes Oakerson, and her two security guards.

Katie may not have finished first, but let's give her some credit--the actress ran and finished all 26 miles of the New York Marathon. That's a feat for even the most A-list celebrity. Go Katie! OK! Magazine - First for Celebrity News - Katie Holmes Exclusive: OK! Puts Those Marathon Rumors to Rest






Mmmmmm looks like we've had their PR on here after all......
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Old January 20th, 2008, 10:16 AM   #390 (permalink)
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Dear people at OK,

This proves nothing.

Suck it, twitchy
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