Did Katie Holmes fake the NY Marathon and have someone else run it for her?

[moomies]

Originally Posted by Sojiita

Are these that borg thing?

Sojitodd, you're not a Trekkie?

[Sojiita]

Originally Posted by moomies

Sojitodd, you're not a Trekkie?

Only like the original really. I can actually remember(barely) watching it..when it first originally aired. I remember watching it while sitting in a 'space age' turquoise plastic chair on metal prong-spikes-so 1960's chic.

[A*O]

The Borg make their first appearance in The Next Generation I think. There's also a super hot Borg babe called Seven Of Nine (lots of Google pics - my photobucket isn't working at the moment). If Scientology could make me look like her I'd probably sign up.

[Chilly Willy]

Originally Posted by Voodoo Child

I'll drink to that

[Cali]

ING started sponsoring the marathon in 2004. SO the mystery runner's bib may not have been from 2003 (i agree) but it could have been from 2004, or 2005 or 2006. Point it: it isn't a 2007 bib.

Some 2004 marathon photos: The 2004 New York City Marathon (118 photos)

This is all making me want to run a marathon. it looks fun (in a way) and inspiring.

[travelbug]

I'm training for a half marathon in the spring. I must be crazy. I ran 7 miles last week and it almost killed me. My hips ached so bad and my back hurt pretty bad too. I have 2 1/2 months left to train so hopefully I can make it.

So this gives me a great perspective on this Katie did she/didn't she situation, because she was a first timer. I think there's no way she ran that whole marathon and went out in heels that night looking so chipper. I have friends that have done a number of (sprint) triathlons and half marathons, and they're pretty darn pooped and hurting at the end. If she had done several marathons prior to this one then maybe she could've been relatively unaffected. But a first-time marathoner? No way she could've crossed the finish line looking that fresh.

[A*O]

Devils Advocate Mode: I'm sure that with so many thousands of people running there will be one or two 'rogue' runners who perhaps ran before 2004 and kept their bibs who just join in anyway. I doubt anyone even notices (or cares). Do you have to pay an entry fee? I bet there's a few tightfisted wankers who use an 'old' bib and run for free.

[nwgirl]

If she cheated, and this guy is any part of it, then I’m voting for inside help and I think that’s how it will all come out. By an internal investigation at the marathon headquarters or something along those lines. They’ll find someone who helped them. I don’t think her cheating (if she did) will be proven by pictures or first hand accounts.

I believe his bib is from 2007 (and that picture was altered to just stir the pot) and I don’t think there’s no registration associated with it by accident. I looked through the results for bib numbers 6000 through 6100 and there were 19 numbers with no registrations associated with them, which if those numbers hold true as an average, it would mean they would have about a 19% chance of picking a clean, unregistered number on their own.

Without inside help, I think chances would have been pretty good that they would have chosen a duplicate number that was already registered to someone else. With inside help, they would have known which numbers were available. But I think the fact that there is no one registered for this year under that number makes me lean more towards it being an actual 2007 bib instead of another year.

On the flip side of the whole bib thing: if I remember correctly, in the Vegas marathon that my husband has run for the last few years, unregistered pacers or aid people are allowed to accompany runners, and they give those people bibs. I assume it’s because you can’t be on the route without a bib or credentials (workers) but I don’t know for sure. So, he could have been given a bib to be on the route, but not registered. I don’t know how big a deal it is that he has a bib and is not registered.

Why he has a chip if he’s not registered, I don’t know. I do know you can buy your own chip to use instead of the ones provided at whatever race you’re in, and take it around with you from race to race, but I don’t know how you could use them without setting them to correspond with the specific race you’re running. I don’t know if they track information on their own or what.

[Bellatheball]

There probably are people like that. Most though are happy to pay the entry fee (which is never that high) just to get the crappy photo at the end and the cheapie medal and prove they ran. Cough.

[celebitchy]

I really believe she cheated, but this is being dismissed as a "conspiracy theory" and that's how the news will report it, even though there are perfectly valid points being made that suggest that she wasn't in the race until the very end. No one, no bloggers, no volunteers, no other runners, have stepped up to say they saw her run the race until the end, and her curious half-answers to questions about it suggest that she really just jogged in and out at the end. We had a volunteer who was at the same point in the race for 7 hours comment they never saw her or heard that she ran, and another woman commented on defamer that they finished at the same time as katie did and had no idea she was in the race. There are many clear indicators that at least point to the idea that this needs to be investigated, but it never will and it will be old news by next week, dismissed as a "conspiracy theory" with the "evidence" of that trainer's mom saying Katie ran. We're not the ones who conspired now, are we?

[jive]

why does everyone care so much if she ran it or not? I think it would be crazy for her to pretend she ran if she didn't. Why would anyone want to pretend they ran a marathon? It really makes no sense to me at all. I wish someone would get to the bottom of this already.

[sparkly]

I am on the fence about whether or not she ran the whole race, but one of the reasons I'm doubting about her faking it is because it's too easy to prove that someone cheated in a race like that, and I doubt she would've taken the chance, and risked her reputation just for a marathon. Wouldn't she come up with something more foolproof?

[Icepik]

^^ She (and Cruise) probably didn't think anyone would bother to question it.

[A*O]

Originally Posted by jive

why does everyone care so much if she ran it or not? I think it would be crazy for her to pretend she ran if she didn't. Why would anyone want to pretend they ran a marathon? It really makes no sense to me at all. I wish someone would get to the bottom of this already.

Because these Co$ whackos are so arrogant, deluded and crazy they think they pull a PR stunt like this and get away with it. And if anyone seriously questions it - or any of the other weird and wonderful things they do - they have a team of heavy duty lawyers on standby who will intimidate, threaten and sue people into silence. That's how they operate.

[nycgirl]

Originally Posted by sparkly

I am on the fence about whether or not she ran the whole race, but one of the reasons I'm doubting about her faking it is because it's too easy to prove that someone cheated in a race like that, and I doubt she would've taken the chance, and risked her reputation just for a marathon. Wouldn't she come up with something more foolproof?

Good point, but if they (TommyGirl and Katie) cared about their reputations so much would they do any of the crap that they do? Like him jumping on Oprah's couch? His little rant on the Today Show? Or these anti psychiatry/scientology videos we've been seeing recently? Granted most of the crazy comes from Tommygirl, but she seems to do whatever he tells her to. I think they're so deluded that they might do something like this. They don't tend to really think about consequences (and apparently they didn't get any anyway).