Did Katie Holmes fake the NY Marathon and have someone else run it for her?

[feedthepilot]

Originally Posted by Trixiebelle

Well, I think I figured out why Katie won't be running the Boston Marathon. She'd be under so much scrutiny she might actually have to run the whole thing herself. [/myopinion]

Mark my words. You'll never see Katie Holmes run another marathon again... it will be something like "I already conquered that mountain" type of b.s.

I think the case is pretty compelling against her!

[Novice]

oooh! I found close ups of the shoe things...
oh surprise surprise the picture thing isn't working...
here, click on this instead.... Holmes-running : Photo Gallery | Just Jared

[t13nif]

o·pin·ion /əˈpɪnyən/Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[uh-pin-yuhn]Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1.a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty. 2.a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.3.the formal expression of a professional judgment: to ask for a second medical opinion. 4.Law. the formal statement by a judge or court of the reasoning and the principles of law used in reaching a decision of a case. 5.a judgment or estimate of a person or thing with respect to character, merit, etc.: to forfeit someone's good opinion. 6.a favorable estimate; esteem: I haven't much of an opinion of him.

[ThatGirl]

Color me shocked that Katies reputation is in question. After all, she signed a deal to be the thetan womb. Who does that kind of thing?

She will not run again, for the reasons stated above, too much scrutiny.

[Penny Lane]

Who's ganging up on who? And why was I not invited? I AM the most supremely intolerant cunt on here, you know...

[southernbelle]

Based on the interview with Letterman when she talks about how she stopped to kiss Tom at the 18 mile marker and then started running again and was "shocked" to hear the guys in front of her say "only 6 more miles," I'm guessing that's actually when she was slipped in, not where she "stopped to take a break".

[cmmdee]

^^ Yeah cause any red-blooded woman would stop a marathon to kiss TommyGirl. Oh, please!

[Penny Lane]

It's not like she has any control of her motor movements anymore anyways.

[moomies]

Don't you get it? She's been lobotomized, she doesn't feel any pain! She ran that marathon, man. They tested their new brainwashing method on her to see if she can run but not run away from Tom.

[Sweetie]

Yeah, I guess you could be right, Moomies.
Think about it.....if she can go through a SILENT birth with no meds. than she should be able to run 26 miles without a bra. haha

[Trixie]

Originally Posted by southernbelle

Based on the interview with Letterman when she talks about how she stopped to kiss Tom at the 18 mile marker and then started running again and was "shocked" to hear the guys in front of her say "only 6 more miles," I'm guessing that's actually when she was slipped in, not where she "stopped to take a break".

She was also very vague about her training...she told Dave she trained while they were in Germany "they have lots of parks"--yet no photos ever surfaced of her running there. So I've read, anyway.

[ThatGirl]

Originally Posted by stylejunkiex

Who's ganging up on who? And why was I not invited? I AM the most supremely intolerant cunt on here, you know...

If only THAT were true.
To the dismay of many, it is not.

OT: I saw Sleep last night at the Flamingo. Can I just express, IMPRESSIVE!

[Elvira]

I think it’s possible that this was another PR set up to place a positive spin on Tom and Katie’s marriage.

Prior to the marathon there were numerous rumors that Tom controlled everything Katie did. In an attempt to put a stop to the negative rumors, Katie runs the marathon (sure) showing she has outside interests of her own. Tom waits and cheers for Katie at the finish line to show that he fully supports his wife.

Remember earlier that year Tom’s buds all came out confirming how happily married Tom and Katie were, but that didn’t put a stop to the negative rumors.

05/03/2007
NEW YORK: Jada Pinkett Smith denies reports that good friend Katie Holmes is a prisoner in her marriage with Tom Cruise.
Source

Jenna Elfman on TomKat: 'Honestly, They're Happy'
27/04/2007
Elfman put the rumors to rest at the Healthy Child Healthy World Benefit Thursday night, telling “Extra,” “Honestly, they’re happy. They have a great life, and they love each other.”
Source

Inside Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes's Marriage
05/03/2007
According to those in the couple's inner circle – which includes Will and Jada Pinkett Smith, Yahoo CEO Terry Semel, Mission: Impossible III director J.J. Abrams, Victoria and David Beckham and fellow members of the Church of Scientology such as Leah Remini and Dayton – the Cruises are nothing like the characters portrayed in headlines.
Source

[nwgirl]

Originally Posted by t13nif

o·pin·ion /əˈpɪnyən/Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[uh-pin-yuhn]Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1.a belief or judgment that rests on grounds insufficient to produce complete certainty. 2.a personal view, attitude, or appraisal.3.the formal expression of a professional judgment: to ask for a second medical opinion. 4.Law. the formal statement by a judge or court of the reasoning and the principles of law used in reaching a decision of a case. 5.a judgment or estimate of a person or thing with respect to character, merit, etc.: to forfeit someone's good opinion. 6.a favorable estimate; esteem: I haven't much of an opinion of him.

Hey thanks. I always appreciate a good vocabulary lesson.

So...maybe I'm arguing something different than anyone else even saw or interpreted. Is it considered opinion when someone says "no way" something happened, "not possible"?

If you were having a discussion about gas prices and someone said "no way gas has ever been over $2 a gallon," would that still be considered an opinion?

Or, as I see it, does that cross the line from stating an opinion to stating an absolute, or something that could be perceived as fact (or what someone wants to be intrepreted as fact) which is therefore up to be proven or disproven?

IMO (aren't I funny? just a little bit?) there is a pretty significant difference between the intrepretation of these two sentences:

"I don't think anyone could have run a marathon with no bra because it would be uncomfortable"

and

"No way anyone could have run a marathon without a bra. It's not possible"

The first is obviously opinion. The second moves into absolutes and pretty close to verbiage used when stating fact, or at least that's how I see it.

Seriously. I'm genuinely interested if I may have just completely misunderstood this entire argument. Because I'm going on the notion that we had moved out the opinion realm, in the original thread, based on wording that was used, such as "no way" and "not possible." I don't consider that to be wording that is used to express an opinion. I consider those to be words people use to express fact. Especially when they are used in a manner which is meant to validate an already expressed opinion. IMO, trying to validate an opinion kind of by definition means that you have moved into the stating facts zone.

Am I crazy? (And to save you the trouble, I don't mean because I can't quit this thread or because "I want everyone to agree with me and I'm mad that they don't" or some version thereof.) Or is there a distinct difference between stating opinion and fact?

[Lalique]

Originally Posted by nwgirl

Hey thanks. I always appreciate a good vocabulary lesson.

So...maybe I'm arguing something different than anyone else even saw or interpreted. Is it considered opinion when someone says "no way" something happened, "not possible"?

If you were having a discussion about gas prices and someone said "no way gas has ever been over $2 a gallon," would that still be considered an opinion?

Or, as I see it, does that cross the line from stating an opinion to stating an absolute, or something that could be perceived as fact (or what someone wants to be intrepreted as fact) which is therefore up to be proven or disproven?

IMO (aren't I funny? just a little bit?) there is a pretty significant difference between the intrepretation of these two sentences:

"I don't think anyone could have run a marathon with no bra because it would be uncomfortable"

and

"No way anyone could have run a marathon without a bra. It's not possible"

The first is obviously opinion. The second moves into absolutes and pretty close to verbiage used when stating fact, or at least that's how I see it.

Seriously. I'm genuinely interested if I may have just completely misunderstood this entire argument. Because I'm going on the notion that we had moved out the opinion realm, in the original thread, based on wording that was used, such as "no way" and "not possible." I don't consider that to be wording that is used to express an opinion. I consider those to be words people use to express fact. Especially when they are used in a manner which is meant to validate an already expressed opinion. IMO, trying to validate an opinion kind of by definition means that you have moved into the stating facts zone.

Am I crazy? (And to save you the trouble, I don't mean because I can't quit this thread or because "I want everyone to agree with me and I'm mad that they don't" or some version thereof.) Or is there a distinct difference between stating opinion and fact?