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Old September 28th, 2007, 01:27 AM   #61 (permalink)
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^^ I agree. I don't think EJ is a pedo, though.
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Old September 28th, 2007, 02:08 AM   #62 (permalink)
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This is crap, not art. And even though I'm a fairly open-minded person it made me feel very uncomfortable.
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Old September 28th, 2007, 02:20 AM   #63 (permalink)
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Taking the artists background into consideration and also the other work that she has done, I really don't think this is just meant to be an innocent photo..( the bolding is mine)

Goldin, 54, is well known for her shots of young, semi-clothed girls.
... and she has been criticised for glamourising drug use Thanksgiving is described by the Baltic as an installation of photographs which documents Goldin's life from 1973 to 1999 - "a micro-retrospective of her career."
In 2001, one of her photos featuring a very young naked girl looking up between the open legs of a semi-clothed older child had been criticised for making money from exploiting children. It was published in a book alongside similar works to accompany an exhibition at the Saatchi Gallery in north London.
Goldin was born in Washington DC, ran away from home and was fostered by several families during her childhood. She moved to New York after graduating from art school where she took became known for pictures of alcoholics, drug addicts and Aids sufferers.
She was admitted to rehab in the 1990s and much of her work since has reflected her own experiences.
Sir Elton John has long been an admirer of her work and is also a close friend.

Seized 'art porn' owned by Sir Elton John - Telegraph



Okay, she's photographed young girls before and has been critized for it so it seems that this isn't a one off innocent pic of young girls.
And apparently according to this article much of her work has reflected her own experiences.
So maybe she was photographed naked in these kinds of poses as a young girl by some one.
However, why she should want to do the same to another child is a bit beyond me.
It all seems a bit fucked IMO.

As for Elton, I really don't think that he's part of this story.
He is a personal friend of the artist and more than likely just bought a batch of her work without even looking at it.
He apparently often gets other people to buy his art and he stores it away as an investment. He doesn't show a lot of his art that he's bought.
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Old September 28th, 2007, 02:24 AM   #64 (permalink)
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^^Is that the pic in question?
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Old September 28th, 2007, 02:25 AM   #65 (permalink)
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No this is the more tamer stuff for a daily newspaper.
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Old September 28th, 2007, 02:28 AM   #66 (permalink)
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Old September 28th, 2007, 02:30 AM   #67 (permalink)
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How did that person become famous? Those are some of the worst photos I've ever seen, utter crap.
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Old September 28th, 2007, 02:31 AM   #68 (permalink)
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Here you go, Voodoo:

Klara and Edda Belly Dancing

Twitchy found it.

I tried really hard not to be offended by the picture, but it's bad. It's a natural playing situation, which is fine, but it shouldn't be published.
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Old September 28th, 2007, 02:33 AM   #69 (permalink)
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You have to be kidding me? That is bad! Not sure if it makes him a pedo though but wow that is a really bad photo.
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Old September 28th, 2007, 02:45 AM   #70 (permalink)
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I know, and it's the censored version! Really disturbing. I have similar pix of my little nephews on my computer, but I'd be shattered if anyone outside of the family would get to see them.
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Old September 28th, 2007, 02:46 AM   #71 (permalink)
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^^I am really shocked actually. I imagined something kind of rude but arty tasteful. That image is very disturbing to me and I don't care if others think I am a prude or whatever.
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Old September 28th, 2007, 02:56 AM   #72 (permalink)
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When it comes to kids, I am a prude. At least in public.
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Old September 28th, 2007, 07:39 AM   #73 (permalink)
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Pedo Michael Jackson is still walking around but they are possibly going after EJ for this.

Ridiculous.
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Old September 28th, 2007, 07:42 AM   #74 (permalink)
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I am amazed that people are calling Elton John a pedophile on the basis of buying the work of a well-known photographer and donating it to a museum. I won't even begin to guess at the hidden agendas at work responsible for the "investigation" in the UK, but I'm willing to bet that a single charge will never be laid.

Never mind that I find the photo charming and playful and NOT AT ALL SEXUAL. God, what is the world coming to that people see sex in that photo? Just look at the expressions on their faces, and their eyes. They tell you all you need to know. One of them is wearing underpants for heaven's sakes! To me, it shows the joy and curiousity and exploration of childhood, nothing more.

I find it disturbing, and very, very sad that some people would have EJ hung, drawn and quartered on the basis of a one photo that he likely had little to do with. The man collects literally millions of things, is a shopaholic, and probably had an assistant pick the photo and send it. But hey, let's call him a pedophile and smear his reputation because we need to make someone pay for our fear of sex and sexuality.

If that pic showed those kids with guns pointing at each other's heads, there would be nary a peep out of the people calling for Elton's hide right now.
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Old September 28th, 2007, 08:02 AM   #75 (permalink)
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It doesn't look like art to me, there's no concept and it's a little too home made.
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