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Old October 31st, 2009, 04:58 PM   #46 (permalink)
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He said he did not ant to talk about any type of surgery below the waste, which leads me to believe that still a girl form the waist down. I really can't believe they would perform surgery on someone that size unless it is was a necessity.
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Old October 31st, 2009, 07:50 PM   #47 (permalink)
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Really? Did they no have to do the 'anchor' incision around the nipple, then down to the underside of the boobie and along the underside? I would do it in a heartbeat if it was less obvious/painful.
I have a friend who underwent breast reduction surgery. She was afraid of doing it, yet when she did have the surgery, she cursed herself for having waited so long.

I never asked her about the scars, but she told me that she feels a sense of freedom now just stretching in the morning as she drinks her coffee.
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Old November 1st, 2009, 01:47 AM   #48 (permalink)
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I wish him and his girlfriend much happiness. I noticed on the ET teevee interview that his voice, lowered now with hormone treatments, sounds a lot like his dad's voice, Sonny Bono. That seemed kind of cool...
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Old November 1st, 2009, 01:28 AM   #49 (permalink)
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^yeah me neither. I think they have the operation for themselves, not for other people. And they've had to put up with discrimination and bullshit from society all along, I don't think they'd expect it to go away after the operation. Narrow-minded assholes are still going to be narrow-minded assholes.

and really, i mean if you think about it, before someone gets their operation, they are probably living like the opposite sex but still quite very much their original sex, which some people can't deal with. but once they get their surgery and take their hormones etc, most people would be none the wiser of their original sex. so why would they get MORE grief for things when they are now actually 100% the sex they want to be and you can't really even tell anymore?
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Old November 1st, 2009, 10:19 AM   #50 (permalink)
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I think it was testosterone injections that give you manly features not necessarily the surgery..... I don't understand sex changes, if our gender is in our brains can't you be more imaginative on how to live your truth without butchering your body. LIVE YOUR TRUTH
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Old November 1st, 2009, 10:54 AM   #51 (permalink)
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^^Umm, I believe that's what's he's attempting to do.
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Old November 1st, 2009, 12:14 PM   #52 (permalink)
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I think it was testosterone injections that give you manly features not necessarily the surgery..... I don't understand sex changes, if our gender is in our brains can't you be more imaginative on how to live your truth without butchering your body. LIVE YOUR TRUTH
Which is why he's doing this.
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Old November 1st, 2009, 12:34 PM   #53 (permalink)
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He said he did not ant to talk about any type of surgery below the waste, which leads me to believe that still a girl form the waist down. I really can't believe they would perform surgery on someone that size unless it is was a necessity.
I doubt he is a girl from the waist down. What is the point of all the surgeries otherwise? But he probably wants to keep the details private which would definitely be TMI.
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I doubt he is a girl from the waist down. What is the point of all the surgeries otherwise? But he probably wants to keep the details private which would definitely be TMI.

i agree. i mean why go to all the trouble to become a man hormonally if you aren't gonna get the funnest toy to play with?
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Old November 1st, 2009, 03:30 PM   #55 (permalink)
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An ex boyfriend of mine is a urological surgeon who at one time specialised in transgender and he said that once they have the operation to complete the change their lives get worse.

If society treats them like freaks before the operation then it is 100 times worse post op. They think that by having their gender re-aligned that it is the end of their journey. Sadly that is not the case and 97% of transgender patients regret having the operation.

I sincerely hope in Chaz's case he find true lasting happiness but somehow I doubt it.
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Old November 1st, 2009, 11:38 PM   #56 (permalink)
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So do I.

you guys gotta quit shitting on chaz's parade man!
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 09:19 AM   #57 (permalink)
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I say good for him.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 03:52 PM   #58 (permalink)
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I've heard that a lot of female to male transgenders do not get the genital surgery because it's very difficult to fashion an adequately functioning penis (obviously the male to female works much better).

I know a woman who had female parts, identified as a lesbian but clearly had some hormone imbalances growing up. There was no possible way to tell she was female be looking at her. Her name is adrogenous and she has a very low voice, facial hair etc, without taking additional male hormones. She evntually had a hysterectomy and a double mastectomy, but still identifies as lesbian. She doesn't want to become a man, she is kinda caught in between. Her doctor finally offered to sign papers to change her gender on her birth certificate, because every time she crossed the border and had to show ID, they pulled her over for a strip search because they didn't believe she was female. It's a very odd situation. She has been with her partner for 30 years and married for 10 i believe.
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 04:43 PM   #59 (permalink)
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Excuse my ignorance, but Chastity was a lesbian, so technically that makes Chaz straight right?
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Old November 2nd, 2009, 08:46 PM   #60 (permalink)
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Default Chaz Bono Girlfriend Completely Supports Sex Change

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Chaz Bono Girlfriend Completely Supports Sex Change
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Originally posted Friday October 30, 2009 02:55 PM EDT


Jennifer Elia and Chaz Bono
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Chaz Bono says his girlfriend of four years, Jennifer Elia, has been completely supportive during his process of becoming a man. Now, he says, his gender reassignment surgery allows the couple to physically have what they've always had emotionally: a heterosexual relationship.

"She's been amazing," Bono, 40, tells Entertainment Tonight in the second part of a two-part interview, airing Friday. "I feel really grateful to be going through this with a partner."

Elia knew his intentions from the start, Bono says. "I didn't just spring this on Jennifer recently. This was something she knew about shortly after we met."

He adds: "Our relationship always modeled a heterosexual relationship, emotionally and intellectually. So now it does physically as well."

Bono has said he felt male from the time he was a child. "I feel like I'm living in my body for the first time, and it feels really good," he tells ET.

In June, Bono's mother, Cher, told PEOPLE she supported the decision to pursue a sex change. "The one thing that will never change is my abiding love for my child," she said.
Chaz Bono Girlfriend Completely Supports Sex Change - Cher : People.com
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