Chaz Bono: I love being a man - Page 3

Beeyotch · October 30th, 2009, 07:33 PM

^yeah me neither. I think they have the operation for themselves, not for other people. And they've had to put up with discrimination and bullshit from society all along, I don't think they'd expect it to go away after the operation. Narrow-minded assholes are still going to be narrow-minded assholes.

Pippin · October 30th, 2009, 07:35 PM

I can't begin to understand what Chaz must have gone through emotionally, but I am glad that he's finally feeling more at peace. I do hope that he's truly happy. He waited long enough before having had the surgery, didn't he?

spiffy · October 30th, 2009, 07:44 PM

Chaz is taking on a brave and courageous journey in life. I wish him well and wish success and love and acceptance.

Good for him.

Lobelia · October 30th, 2009, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Lolita

An ex boyfriend of mine is a urological surgeon who at one time specialised in transgender and he said that once they have the operation to complete the change their lives get worse.

If society treats them like freaks before the operation then it is 100 times worse post op. They think that by having their gender re-aligned that it is the end of their journey. Sadly that is not the case and 97% of transgender patients regret having the operation.

Seriously? If that's true, it's horrible. What is the 97% based on... a large study, or your ex's experience?

twitchy2.0 · October 30th, 2009, 08:51 PM

numbers pulled out of someone's ass? I can't believe that.

scooter · October 30th, 2009, 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by sluce

^^ I had a reduction and lift. The pain was not that bad and the scarring is minimal.

Really? Did they no have to do the 'anchor' incision around the nipple, then down to the underside of the boobie and along the underside? I would do it in a heartbeat if it was less obvious/painful.

cheray · October 30th, 2009, 11:02 PM

Its only if its not what you REALLY wanted to begin with.........but only thought you wanted... With my surgeries and there have been several, the only thing I regret is the scars. NOt the outcome. I was always happy with that. He will be at peace with himself.

olivia · October 31st, 2009, 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sluce

^^ I had a reduction and lift. The pain was not that bad and the scarring is minimal.

To the tune of 6-10 grand, one can get a reduction. Good plastic surgeons don't accept insurance anymore (I wouldn't. It's a huge hassle.) Unless I can get good coverage in an EU system, the prospect looks bleak.

rollo · October 31st, 2009, 10:22 AM

Wasn't he told to lose weight before the operations? Being that size with so much surgery looks dangerous to me.

*DIVA! · October 31st, 2009, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by rollo

Wasn't he told to lose weight before the operations? Being that size with so much surgery looks dangerous to me.

Evidently no, since they have already started!

JadeStar70 · October 31st, 2009, 01:18 PM

He looked like shit in the interview I saw. Looks like he has gained 150 pounds. His face and neck was gross.

Palermo · October 31st, 2009, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchy2.0

Because you love the person for who they are?

I understand about loving somebody, but I don't believe it's that easy to switch what you find sexually attractive. I think if you like your own sex, that's what you like. Picture a gay man whose lover cuts off his penis and now has a vagina, is it the same because he "loves" him? My guess is no. You may still love them but do you still want to have sex with them?

aabbcc · October 31st, 2009, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Palermo

I understand about loving somebody, but I don't believe it's that easy to switch what you find sexually attractive. I think if you like your own sex, that's what you like. Picture a gay man whose lover cuts off his penis and now has a vagina, is it the same because he "loves" him? My guess is no. You may still love them but do you still want to have sex with them?

I get what you're saying. If my girlfriend wanted to become a man, I'd be supportive, but that would be the end of the romantic relationship for me. She might be the same person inside, but on the outside she'd be a man. I don't want to be with a man. That's just me though.

I hope someone is encouraging him to lose weight and take care of himself. He really does not look healthy. Combine his weight with the shock of surgery and the stuff he's taking to transition and that has to be quite hard on his system.

twitchy2.0 · October 31st, 2009, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Palermo

I understand about loving somebody, but I don't believe it's that easy to switch what you find sexually attractive. I think if you like your own sex, that's what you like. Picture a gay man whose lover cuts off his penis and now has a vagina, is it the same because he "loves" him? My guess is no. You may still love them but do you still want to have sex with them?

Maybe not, but they might still want to be together in a celibate relationship or be together emotionally and physically with other people. Who knows? Relationships can vary so much.

RevellingInSane · October 31st, 2009, 04:19 PM

Good for him. Watching Chaz on that celebrity weight loss show, he came across as a genuinely sweet, personable, likeable person. People like that deserve happiness.

I wonder in the long run how his change will affect his current relationship.