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    I found this article interesting, it gives some background information about Jian Ghomeshi:

    Who is Jian Ghomeshi, really?


    In his memoir, 1982, disgraced radio star Jian Ghomeshi recounts a typical young person's early experiences with sex, from a first kiss in Grade 5, through to an ill-fated make-out session in Grade 8, when he stripped naked with a girl and did not quite know what to do. When he bragged, his friends said he was "the master."
    "But I was no master. I was 13 then, and I had no idea what I was doing," he writes.
    "Part of the problem was that I didn't have the benefit of pornography. That might have helped." Cute and awkward in equal measure, the book reads like a pick-up line in 12 chapters and creates the impression of a mop-haired New Wave David Bowie fanatic, a theatre geek who minored in women's studies, introspective and sensitive, ambitious and talented, reflecting on his suburban immigrant childhood from his throne atop Canada's public broadcaster.
    Even his preference of Mary Ann on Gilligan's Island, "in her little shorts," over the "sultry actress" Ginger, seemed attractively devilish in his telling, with just a hint of the nerd.
    That impression now lies in ruins. His book's acknowledgment of "my fluffy, dutiful travelling companion Big Ears," a teddy bear he uses in psychotherapy, now seems especially gruesome with allegations from two women he turned the bear around so it would not "see" his violent sexual aggression against them in his home.
    Until this week, Ghomeshi, 47, was famous as the coolly patient host of Q, a marquee interviewer with a mellifluous voice he would tune to the cadence of his guest, fostering a sense of intimacy.
    Now he is a fugitive from national outrage, reportedly in Los Angeles, and facing a criminal investigation. He has also filed a massive lawsuit for defamation and breach of confidence, as well as a union grievance to be reinstated in his job, from which the CBC fired him on Sunday.
    Questions abound: Is he really the rising star whose managers ignored sexual harassment because he was "the goose laying the golden egg," as more than one former Q producer has claimed?
    Is he the mercurial broadcasting genius who emerges in previous profiles, difficult and demanding in pursuit of his craft? Is he a serial sexual abuser, exploiting his celebrity to victimize young women, only revealing a brutal cruelty once he has them in private? Could he possibly be all of these things at once? Could he possibly be innocent? Who is Jian Ghomeshi, really?
    Jian Ghomeshi was born in England, in the suburbs near Heathrow Airport, to Iranian expatriates. As a child, his schoolmates would tease him and call him "Blackie," and he recalls a vague outrage, in line with his adult liberal politics, that Margaret Thatcher "had taken the milk away from schoolchildren."
    He has a sister, Jila, now a professor of linguistics at the University of Manitoba. They moved to Canada, in Toronto's northern suburbs, when Jian was seven, feeling first terror, then liberation and eventually finding his calling in theatre, through which he met the members of his future band, the satirical Moxy Fruvous.
    His father, Farhang (Frank), who died Oct. 2 following heart surgery, was a major force in his life.

    On his show, Ghomeshi would frequently mock his father's Iranian accent and his wish his son would get a proper job, like an engineer. He has often told the joke, in the book and on the air, that when Moxy Fruvous went busking, his father said: "We have a name for thees in Iran as well. Eet is called begging."
    His memoir, billed as "creative non-fiction," is also full of little lists, which he describes as a lifelong personal quirk reflected in his taste for books like the World Book of Rankings, over which he would pore "religiously" as a child. He also hints at some need being fulfilled here, some artificial sense of order.
    Journalist Courtney Shea, in a Toronto Life profile, describes a more recent episode in which a panic attack led to regular sessions with a psychologist and a diagnosis of an anxiety disorder. "Feeling like an outsider because of my Iranian background, trust issues. A lot of not feeling good enough," Ghomeshi told her.
    He never lasted long as an outsider, though - quite the opposite. By the time he was at York University, studying politics, history and women's studies, he was an activist on left-wing causes and was elected president of the student government.
    After Moxy Fruvous ran its course, Ghomeshi did some solo touring in the U.S., wrote a newspaper column and got picked up in 2002 as the host of a new CBC culture show called Play.
    Becoming the next Peter Gzowski was an explicit goal and when Q was launched in 2007 in the afternoon, he was on track. By the time he moved into the 10 a.m. slot, where the late Gzowski's Morningside once was, the deal was sealed and Q became the ticket to Canadian exposure for everyone from new artists to global celebrities, breaking ground for the CBC in U.S. markets.
    "Everyone said 'oh, my God, we have a hit, we did it. For once, we're not making radio for 87-year-olds in Saskatoon. We're making radio for the new generation.' We really felt like we had done something important and Jian was the face of that," said a former Q producer, a woman, who spoke on condition of anonymity.
    "He's such a magnetic character, even as a guy, there's just an instant intimacy when you're talking with him. And that was really amped up with women," said another one of his former producers, who agreed to speak on condition of anonymity because he is still employed at the CBC. He described the work as exhilarating in the madcap world of big-league radio "with a madman at the centre of it," who would indulge in petty vendettas and book guests solely for the purpose of pursuing sex.
    "Someone without the same set of extraordinary talents couldn't have got away with what he got away with, especially in a unionized workplace. But the thing to emphasize there is that a culture grew up in a show where that was just normal and we all went to a workplace where crazy times was normal," the producer said.

    But there was trouble behind the scenes. Long before news broke of the allegations involving sexual violence against women, there was a broad awareness within the CBC of inappropriate behaviour. This was especially hard on a largely temporary staff, on contracts, in competition for staff positions.
    "It just kind of seemed pathetic.
    It didn't seem nefarious. It just seemed like dude's got bad moves," said the Q producer.
    "Very few young single women lasted on the show," he said, and many were brought to tears by Ghomeshi's behaviour, and not because he was being violent or overtly harsh with her, just subtly denigrated, overly critical.
    CBC announced late Friday its executives have been aware of the allegations against him for months and believed his denials, but that changed last week when they saw "graphic evidence that Jian had caused physical injury to a woman."
    News also broke two women had come forward to Toronto police with allegations concerning Ghomeshi.
    Ghomeshi has described approaching the CBC last week with what he said was exculpatory evidence, proving the impugned sexual encounters were consensual. Arif Noorani, executive producer of Q, flatly denied the claim, reported Friday in the National Post, he was aware of a workplace sexual harassment claim and told the victim, a former producer, Ghomeshi is "never going to change," so the solution was to work around it.
    No charges have been filed. Toronto Police Chief Bill Blair has encouraged any alleged victim to come forward as a witness to support possible criminal charges. Even the presumption of innocence, though technically in place, has eluded him in public.
    Penguin Canada said in a statement Friday it had decided against publishing Mr. Ghomeshi's next book "in light of recent events." The singer Lights, whose career he launched and guided, fired him as her manager. The crisis public relations firm he hired to contain the scandal dropped him, reportedly because he lied to them. His former band mates issued a statement saying they are sickened and saddened by their friend's actions.
    Although he has vowed to respond to the allegations, Ghomeshi had not done so by Friday night.

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    So Ghomeshi slithered across the border and is skulking around in LA, is he? I wonder if Big Ears is with him? Big Ears!

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    Man rats off a sinking ship. The fact that EVERYBODY associated with this guy is bailing on him before there is a criminal investigation tells me people knew. They are running now because it's public.

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    "Icing on the cake: the "ominous" Jesse Brown statement that spooked Ghomeshi so much that he ran scared to his employer with dirty videos was about a completely different story."

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    Thanks to whoever put his first name in the thread title. It was pissing me off that this guy I'd never heard of apparently gets recognised by a single name. Who does he think he is, Cher?
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    Jian needs a date with Wonder Woman!
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    Quote Originally Posted by AnnT View Post

    Ghomeshi has described approaching the CBC last week with what he said was exculpatory evidence, proving the impugned sexual encounters were consensual. Arif Noorani, executive producer of Q, flatly denied the claim, reported Friday in the National Post, he was aware of a workplace sexual harassment claim and told the victim, a former producer, Ghomeshi is "never going to change," so the solution was to work around it.

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    This is what is pissing me off the most about this situation. How the hell do you "work around it" when it comes to sexual harassment on the job? What a cop out!

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    This wasn't very bright on Ghomeshi's part, was it?

    Ghomeshi used CBC-owned phone for texts that led to firing, source says

    Toronto police will not say if investigators are now in possession of the smart phone.

    By: Robert Benzie Queen's Park Bureau Chief, Katrina Clarke Staff Reporter, Alyshah HashamStaff Reporter, Kevin Donovan Investigations, Published on Mon Nov 03 2014
    Jian Ghomeshi used a CBC-owned phone to send lewd text messages to women, a source has told the Star.

    The public broadcaster believes its ownership of the smart phone refutes the former radio star’s claim that he was fired because of how he conducted himself in his “private life.”

    “The contents of that phone belong to the CBC — it’s the CBC’s property,” said a source familiar with‎ the situation.

    The source says Ghomeshi ‎lied to CBC management when he was asked “eyeball to eyeball” about allegations of violent sexual behaviour being investigated by the Star.

    Ghomeshi showed texts and other material to CBC officials to bolster his claim, but the source said they were so shocked by what they read and saw that it had the opposite effect.

    “(CBC) didn’t know the scope of what they were dealing with,” the source said, adding it is unclear whether CBC information technology staff have begun poring over Ghomeshi’s work email acco‎unt for other evidence.

    It is also unclear whether police, who announced Friday they are investigating Ghomeshi, are in possession of the phone. Toronto police spokesman Mark Pugash said police do not discuss details about an investigation.

    Asked if CBC turned over the phone to police, spokesman Chuck Thompson told the Star in an emailed statement that, “We are cooperating fully with Toronto Police Services.”

    Ghomeshi was fired on Oct. 26, after his CBC bosses saw “graphic evidence that Jian had caused physical injury to a woman,” CBC has said in an internal memo.

    Pugash said he had nothing to add to what was said at a police news conference Saturday, where it was revealed that three women have come forward with allegations against Ghomeshi.

    The news comes as a former journalism student and current journalism professor at the University of Western Ontario said that students were cautioned against pursuing internships at Ghomeshi’s popular CBC radio show Q due to concerns about “inappropriate” behaviour toward young women by the now-fired host.

    Jeremy Copeland, a journalism lecturer at Western, said the concerns stemmed from a 2012 incident in which Ghomeshi allegedly “prey(ed) on a young grad who wanted to work (at Q).” Because of this, he recently stopped a female student from pursuing an internship at Q.

    Students were told two years ago that internships at Q were “off limits” due to concerns about inappropriate behaviour by Ghomeshi, a former Western student told the Star.

    Students were not given specifics, but were told that there was concern about “overly flirty” behaviour by Ghomeshi when dealing with female university students, the former student said.

    The journalism program did stop sending interns to Q after one intern (a male student) was placed at the show in 2008, said Thomas Carmichael, dean of the faculty of information and media studies at the University of Western Ontario. But he said the reason was to do with the nature of the internship.

    “We insist that our interns do entry-level journalism work, and the report on that internship indicated that the student was asked to run everyday errands not connected to journalism,” he said in an email. “Consequently, we decided not to pursue further placements at Q.”

    In a statement on Monday, the university said that “at no time has any Western student reported back from an internship at Q that inappropriate behaviour had occurred.”

    The woman involved in the alleged 2012 incident, a recent graduate who shared her story with Copeland and other professors at Western, agreed to speak with the Star on condition of anonymity because she is concerned about a possible negative impact on her career.

    The graduate who spoke with the Star alleges that after she attended a taping of Q at the downtown Toronto studio in Dec. 2012, Ghomeshi inappropriately touched and texted her.

    She had asked Q’s executive producer for an invite to a taping, she said. She said she hoped to land a job with CBC.

    Seeing a new face in the control room, Ghomeshi invited her into the studio after the show, she said.

    Alone in the room, the two chatted about Q and guests Ghomeshi had interviewed. The conversation was friendly and she assumed they were networking — despite a comment about how good she looked, she said.

    “I was under the impression . . . he thinks I’m smart, he thinks I’d be a good fit for working at Q,” she said.

    When conversation wrapped up, she alleges Ghomeshi said, “Aren’t you going to give me a hug?”

    “He gave me a bear hug and he lifted me up,” she said, adding the situation was “weird” but she thought perhaps he was just friendly. She had heard rumours he was flirty, she said.

    But when she turned to leave a second time, she alleges Ghomeshi came up behind her, placing his hands on her waist and pressing his body against her backside.

    “As I’m walking towards the door, he was behind me, kind of hugging me from behind and walking with me,” she said. “That’s when I thought, whoa, this is kind of a bit much.”

    She said she does not know if anyone else witnessed the incident.

    As they walked, with Ghomeshi still holding her, he mentioned she should laugh at his jokes, she said.

    She left and returned to work, still shaken and unable to focus.

    One hour later, she received a text from Ghomeshi asking her to meet up for a “non-work related drink,” she said. He added a winky face — — to the message, she said.

    “I didn’t want to date him, but then I thought this would maybe be a good opportunity to speak to him about the industry,” she said, responding by text and telling him a “friendly meet up” would be OK.

    “If you could help me get a job that would be cool, too,” she added.

    Ghomeshi texted back saying he wasn’t interested in a personal friendship and didn’t want to be used as “conduit to a job,” she said. The text messages stopped shortly after, she said.

    In the months to follow, she continued second-guessing her handling of the situation. She wondered if perhaps he had misinterpreted her sarcasm as flirting.

    She gave up trying to get a job at Q, she said.

    It was only when the Star reported allegations from women against Ghomeshi that she felt a final sense of relief, she said. “Thank God I didn’t agree to meeting up with him,” the woman, now 28, told the Star Sunday.

    She now says his behaviour was inappropriate and unacceptable in the workplace, and adds that she told former professors about the incident because she was still friendly with them, not because she expected Western to do anything.

    Copeland, who learned about the alleged incident from the graduate, said he finds it “disturbing.”

    “For her to go down there and have that happen, have someone abuse his authority and position to hit on her in a very strong way, crossing her boundaries, is unacceptable and unprofessional behaviour.”

    Copeland has taught television journalism part-time at Western since 2010, full-time since 2012 and is one of the faculty members who supervises internships.

    So when he learned in the fall that a student had listed Q among her top three choices for an internship this coming winter, he brought up his concerns at a faculty meeting to discuss internships, he said. It was agreed that the student should not be placed at Q, he said.

    The former student who told the Star that Q was declared “off-limits” said the show had previously been a very popular choice for interns who wanted to get experience in radio. She said that some students had a “fan girl feeling” toward Ghomeshi, who was seen as a “celebrity.”

    “Professors had a protective feeling” toward their students, she said. (Copeland had not told students that Q was “off-limits” — the meeting this fall was the first time he raised concerns about Ghomeshi).

    Students were not given specifics but were told that there was concern about “overly flirty” behaviour by Ghomeshi when he dealt with female university students, the former student said.

    Since then the Toronto Star and other media outlets have published the accounts of nine women accusing Ghomeshi of harassment, physical abuse and sexual assault. One of the women, a CBC employee, alleges that on one occasion on his way out of the Q studio, Ghomeshi approached her from behind and cupped her buttocks.

    Ghomeshi has said that he will meet the allegations “directly” and has maintained in a Facebook post and through a $55-million lawsuit against the CBC that all his sexual interactions have been consensual.

    Other women who allege they were attacked by Ghomeshi continue to come forward. The Star has now heard of incidents dating back to his time as member of the band Moxy Früvous, and more allegations from his time as host of >play on CBC television and from his time as host of Q.

    Generally, the women coming forward with new stories allege that Ghomeshi asked them on dates and, without their consent, attacked them, usually by grabbing them around the throat, squeezing their throat and striking them on the face. The Star is continuing to investigate.

    In the wake of the allegations — and a recently noticed tweet from April that reads “Hi there @jianghomeshi. Remember louring me to ur house under false pretences? Bruises dont lie. Signed, every female Carleton U media grad” — journalism schools have been going through records of past internships at Q to ensure students were not subjected to any inappropriate behaviour.

    No concerns had been flagged about Q internships in the journalism programs at Carleton University and Ryerson University, program heads say.

    “We have placed interns at Q in the past and we have never had any indication that there was a problem with one of our interns,” said Ivor Shapiro, chair of the Ryerson School of Journalism. “I’ve spoken to all of our faculty supervisors who supervised internships at the CBC over the past 10 years and nobody had an inkling of a problem.”

    Carleton University sent 73 students for internships or work placements at the CBC from 2003 to 2014, and only one was at Q, according to a statement Monday from the director and associate director of the university’s journalism and communication school.

    “We’ve been working in close cooperation with our university administration and can tell you that we have no information at this time that would lead us to believe there has been any connection between any of our students and the allegations that have been raised,” reads the statement.

    Susan Harada, head of the journalism program, previously told the Star there was no official or unofficial policy of avoiding placements at Q.

    With files from Jacques Gallant

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    Jian Ghomeshi allegations: I wasn’t surprised to hear them. Does that make me complicit in the alleged abuse?

    You know Jian, of course. So does almost everyone else you know.

    You are all part of the downtown-Toronto arts scene. Jian is the host of the popular public-radio culture show Q, heard across Canada every weekday morning and syndicated to 180 U.S. stations—a rare CBC success at reaching beyond retirees.

    As a critic and author, you have been a guest on Q a half-dozen times, most recently in early summer, to discuss a Slate piece you’d written. You enjoy doing it, and you value it professionally: It is by far the highest-profile Canadian broadcast venue that consistently engages with the kind of work you do. You think you and Jian have a good on-air rapport.

    Then again, you are a man. You are well-aware that to many of the women you know, Jian is a creep.

    You run into him constantly around town. Awards ceremonies, panel discussions, fashion events, charitable and cultural galas of all kinds—Jian is there, and he is subsequently pictured online and in the society pages, often with his arms around a couple of young women in cocktail dresses. He might as well have been appointed Host Laureate by the Canadian parliament. It is a function of Canada’s small population, and its colonial propensity to stick with the familiar, that there is usually just one such inescapable person in this country. For the past five years, it has been Jian.

    Because he is post-boomer and Iranian Canadian, he is embraced as the embodiment of the New Canada: multicultural, tuned-in, no longer parochial. But as a well-read, affable, stylish liberal, he does not make the Old Canada too uncomfortable, either.

    He does make some people uncomfortable. Female friends often remark that they would never date him, that they’ve “heard things.” You’ve heard things too.

    You and Jian are about the same age. You met him before his brief celebrity as the leader of a goofy college-circuit folk-rock band in the mid-1990s. (The only sin you knew of there was against decent music.) Some of your friends had worked with him before Q, and when it was launched others got jobs there.

    Maybe you downplayed the gossip, because facing that it could be true might mean making a sacrifice: You liked doing that show.

    There was chatter at parties, stories of pushed boundaries, of Jian hitting on woman after woman. You’d heard this kind of talk about journalists in town before, but usually about men of an older generation, not your own. The gossip was sometimes kind of funny, sometimes simply gross. On one or two occasions, a little darker, in ways you couldn’t really parse.

    Then, one weekend years later, Jian abruptly goes on leave from the CBC. At brunch the next morning, friends tell you it’s because a freelance writer you know (he interviewed you for his podcast just a few weeks ago) is about to publish an exposé of Jian’s treatment of women, in the office and in his private life.

    Your friends laugh at your startled expression—which is not because there are allegations (though you don’t yet know their depth), but because someone is finally reporting them. As another journalist said, whenever there is a profile of Jian in a paper or a magazine, you wonder if it will confront the subject. It never does, not seriously. Until now.

    In the next couple of days it all begins to come out, and keeps coming.

    There were the parts you’d anticipated: allegations of workplace harassment, aggression, inappropriate behavior. But by the end of the week, eight women have accused him of assaulting them violently on dates, most anonymously, but two by name. The allegations include belts and bruises and concrete walls. Toronto police announce that they are investigating three complaints.

    As you follow all of this, you remember reading the words of Pope Francis when he held a special Mass at the Vatican this summer for visiting survivors of clerical sexual abuse: He spoke of “despicable actions, camouflaged by a complicity that cannot be explained.”

    You were brought up in the Church, sort of. But as a nonbeliever, you bolted like a cat as early as you could. As the international scandal about priests and young boys unfolded over the ensuing decades, you were grateful you’d distanced yourself when you did. You watched mostly with an outsider’s outraged disbelief: How could these parishes and hierarchies have tolerated and hushed up these patterns for so long?

    That question, and that quotation, return to haunt you now.

    Despite what you knew, when you were invited on Jian’s show, you went. And went again. Though you found his manner slick and off-putting, you were friendly with him. You played nice. You never saw each other socially, but you chatted. His interview style sometimes seemed patronizing, particularly with female guests; you were surprised so much of the audience found him charming, rather than smarmy. Then again, he was always well-prepared and well-scripted.

    The banter about Jian’s annoying pick-up-artist persona continued. One summer evening at a Toronto outdoor indie-rock festival, a friend was tipsy, talking about him a bit loudly, when you noticed Jian right behind you, holding a beer. You shushed her. You nodded hi and hoped he hadn’t heard, because you wanted to continue being invited on the show. Which you were.

    ou’re skeptical about calling every professional network a community. “I’m a member of the sports-equipment-public-relations community.” Come off it. But when you discover that the gauche figure in your field whom you’ve all grumbled and laughed about is possibly something much worse, you realize it is a community. Because you feel associated. You feel responsible. You stood by. You grinned and took the man’s hand.

    It’s as if no matter where you go, you are in the position so many Catholics have unwillingly found themselves in: You are always in some way part of a community that is studiously ignoring the wrong some man is doing. In this case it was the Canadian arts and media scene. But friends have told you these patterns occur among scientific researchers. In education. In medicine. In theater. In an activist group, an ethnic community, a queer community, a kibbutz. Men at the top, abusing their influence. Objections murmured mostly behind their backs.

    There was a round of similar allegations against men in the literary world just a few weeks ago. Some of your friends knew the accused parties. Some knew the aggrieved women. Not all of the stories were straightforward. Some friends felt torn about accounts being aired online, in public, destroying reputations—about whether to call certain incidents “rape.” Others had no such hesitations. Tempers flared.

    What do you do, you thought then, about actions that make women feel unsafe, violated, but do not cross the line of criminality? About gray zones? About the creeps in your midst?

    Now, you think: If something seems kind of wrong, it is all too possible that it is very wrong.

    In Jian’s case, you didn’t know, of course. But you knew. There was doublethink, a split consciousness. “Everybody” knew, so perhaps you had no special burden, not compared to his employers, for example. A former Q staffer says that after she complained, a CBC executive reminded her to be “malleable.” There remain a lot of questions about what happened there.

    But maybe you, too, downplayed the problem because facing it might mean making a sacrifice: You liked doing that show. Just as the CBC and the U.S. stations liked having that show. As his publisher liked selling his 1980s memoir. As organizations liked having Jian host. As websites and newspapers liked printing his handsome photos.

    And so it went on. And more women ended up hurt. While he allegedly turned his teddy-bear face away.

    (You contacted Jian to tell him you were writing this piece and get his comment, but he did not respond.)

    So what should you have done, back when there were only rumors and snaky vibes? Refused to be a guest on Q? Scowled and been uncivil to Jian in public? Should you have tried to expose him? You didn’t have much to go on, and you are not an investigative reporter. Then again, you used to work as an editor at a Toronto newspaper. You could have urged someone to look into it. It just didn’t seem clear enough. So you took it too lightly.

    If things are fuzzy, the human default is often to do nothing. It’s genuinely difficult to conceive and accept that something extreme may be happening, unless you witness it firsthand. Unless it happens to you. And as some of the women’s accounts make clear, it can be hard to absorb even then.

    The worst thing, you realize, is that you tended to look down on Jian’s conquests. As if anyone who fell for his come-ons was a fool, instead of merely lacking the advantage of inside knowledge.

    No wonder the women didn’t hope to be taken seriously. No wonder most filed no grievances, and none of them laid charges, nor spoke out in public, until they learned they were not alone. They expected not to be believed, and worse, that they would be hounded and humiliated—and the way many Q fans have treated them on social media proves them right. Neither did they trust the legal system, for good reason. A lot of your older male journalist friends don’t get that: “Why not go to court?” they say on Twitter.

    And then, some of the women say they feared that speaking out might jeopardize their careers in Canadian media. “I felt like Jian was CBC god,” as one of them puts it. And this is where you feel most implicated, along with your colleagues. In a small country, in an insular profession, the tightness of interconnection holds everything in place, maintains the status quo. Even in a field whose task is allegedly to question the status quo. Where, nonetheless, most of the bosses are still men.

    “A complicity that cannot be explained,” said the Catholic patriarch. That was bold, but too facile. This denial, the church’s in a massive sexual-abuse cover-up, or yours in your cultural circles, was not a fog ordained by God to cloud the mortal mind. It served functions. It was not just something that was broken. It was something that was working all too well. Complicity can be explained. And it must be, because you need to figure out how to break it.

    For days, a dynamic, tense discussion unfolds among everyone you know. Friends in the music community speak out. Petitions are started. You exchange links to essays about women’s voices, being silenced. How sexual violence is treated unlike other crimes. You post on Facebook about your unsettled feelings about your role, about having played nice.

    Your friend Becky, an improv comedian, remarks: “One always has a responsibility not to play nice when one knows one shouldn't. Unfortunately, having a responsibility does not make actions easier or more possible. It's just that we live in hell and awful people are in charge.” That makes you laugh, which helps.

    But it doesn’t help enough. Already, amid the racket, you have heard new whispers, about other men. You don’t want to believe them. But you do. So far, you have done nothing about it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grandknight View Post
    Jian Ghomeshi allegations: I wasn’t surprised to hear them. Does that make me complicit in the alleged abuse?

    .... snip ....

    But it doesn’t help enough. Already, amid the racket, you have heard new whispers, about other men. You don’t want to believe them. But you do. So far, you have done nothing about it.

    Anybody know who the other men are?

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    Wow this guy inspires a lot of walls o' text.
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    Jian Ghomeshi hires lawyer who defended ex-attorney general Michael Bryant | Toronto Star

    Former CBC radio host Jian Ghomeshi has hired prominent criminal lawyer Marie Henein amid allegations he assaulted and sexually abused nine women and a man.

    Henein holds a reputation as rigorous and well-prepared in the courtroom with a number of high-profile wins to her name. She is best known for representing former attorney general Michael Bryant, and more recently, the 27-year-old woman accused of assault for tossing a beverage at Mayor Rob Ford at the Taste of Little Italy festival in 2013.

    The Toronto police sex crimes unit is investigating at least three complaints against Ghomeshi. No charges have yet been laid.

    Last week at a gala dinner honouring past presidents of the Criminal Lawyers Association, Henein, CLA treasurer and the evening’s emcee, joked about Ghomeshi.

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    “As criminal lawyers we represent people who have committed heinous acts. Acts of violence. Acts of depravity. Acts of cruelty. Or as Jian Ghomeshi likes to call it, foreplay,” she said to the crowd of about 450 lawyers, including judges of both the provincial and superior court where his case might be heard if charges are laid.

    She also joked that she and Eddie Greenspan, famed Canadian criminal lawyer and the evening’s keynote speaker, have worked together for many years. “Some criminal. Some regulatory. Some light BDSM.” Both jokes drew huge laughs from the crowd at the Ritz Carlton.

    Henein’s CV is impressive. Now heading her own defence firm, Henein Hutchison LLP, she previously was partner at Greenspan’s firm.

    In 2013, Henein was the recipient of the Laura Legge award, which recognizes women lawyers in Ontario who have demonstrated exemplary leadership.

    Bryant, a Harvard-educated lawyer, retained Henein in 2009 when he was charged in the death of bicycle courier Darcy Allan Sheppard. The charges – criminal negligence causing death and dangerous operation of a motor vehicle causing death – were later dropped.

    Henein “seemed to channel Hannibal Lecter,” Bryant wrote in his 2012 book, 28 Seconds. “So able was she to find a person’s deepest frailties and exploit them.”

    Counted among her accomplishments is a term as co-chair of the Masters of Law program at Osgoode Hall, her alma mater, and 14 years as an adjunct professor at the school.

    She also holds a Masters in Law from Columbia University.

    “Marie is wickedly smart, she has amazing knowledge and grasp of criminal law and she’s a fighter,” lawyer and former colleague Todd White told The Star in 2013.

    Apart from over two decades of experience practicing law, Henein, born in Cairo, is a mother of two school-aged boys.

    Among her victories in court is the case of junior hockey coach David Frost, who was acquitted of sexual exploitation charges in 2008.

    Another was her successful defence of Daniel Weiz, one of the young men charged in the 1999 beating death of 15-year-old Dmitri (Matti) Baranovski.

    While her name has appeared in the press countless times, peers say she doesn’t seek out the high-profile cases – they come find her.

    Henein will defend Ghomeshi alongside Scott Hutchison and Danielle Robitaille, her colleagues at Henein Hutchison LLP.

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    his lawyer sounds awesome. i want to hang out with her.
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    So... do we think he'll try his creepy shit with his lawyer?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kittylady View Post
    So... do we think he'll try his creepy shit with his lawyer?
    Not unless he wants to experience what it's like to be on the receiving end.
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    ^^^ that's what i was wondering. but she sounds like she would just put him in a headlock and he would cry.

    eta: @kitty
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