Bridget Moynahan/Tom Brady baby name game

[Bellatheball]

If he was that worried about his kid having his last name, maybe he should have stuck with the mother of his child.

[Moongirl]

Originally Posted by msdebagain

is that something new? i'm in CA and my son had my bf's last name (which i changed when i came to my senses) and it was all my word.

Not sure how new, maybe about 3-4 years? Unless it's just in the county I live in, but I'm pretty sure it's applies to the state.

[blissfullyunaware]

[DeadDwarf]

Originally Posted by Moongirl

Not sure how new, maybe about 3-4 years? Unless it's just in the county I live in, but I'm pretty sure it's applies to the state.

FYI: I just had my daughter on Saturday and when I filled out her birth certificate I was allowed to put whatever name I wanted. I could have made up a last name and it would have been her legal name.

[MrsDark]

Originally Posted by carrie2008

Well if he wasn't there most of the time why not let the name be up to her...

Why not let the name be up to her, period? The idea that a child having his father's name is his "birthright" any more than carrying the name of the family of the mother (perhaps her name is just as prestigious to her and her family, with the Moynahans having a rich historical background) goes right back to the days when children of unmarried parents were seen as "bastards" and therby "lesser-thans".

She carried and birthed this baby, in the process getting to know and bonding with him and preparing for how life with him on a daily basis will forever after be. The male in this scenario was physically and emotionally mostly (if not entirely) uninvolved after sperm donation and already in the process of living a separate life that did not include either of them before the child was much more than a cluster of cells.

The only difference now is that since the child is here, he will have an opportunity (if he wishes, as he hasn't done so yet) to be involved with and have a relationship with this kid without having to be involved with her beyond being co-parents. Most likely she will have primary custody and he will do the parttime dad thing at BEST. Possibly he'll be more involved, if asked to pony up with a large number financially (funny how often money and spitefulness of having to fork it over or sometimes just "sticking it to the ex" are often good motivators to get men to be more involved with their kids). Possibly he'll talk a good game and end up being less involved (especially after he marries and has kids with another).

So....with all these factors, why the fuck shouldn't the child be a Moynahan? By default he already is and will continue to be a Moynahan to a much greater extent than he is or ever will be a Brady.

Originally Posted by Bellatheball

If he was that worried about his kid having his last name, maybe he should have stuck with the mother of his child.

Thank you. This is the point behind what I took a lot of blabbing to just say.

[snuffy]

She should have named the kid Trap Brady ... lmao.

Or even better - name it Peyton Moynahan.

[Beeyotch]

Originally Posted by Bellatheball

If he was that worried about his kid having his last name, maybe he should have stuck with the mother of his child.

Exactly. She doesn't need to give her son Brady's name if she doesn't want to. I don't think it has anything to do with a man's "right" to give a child his family name, either. That's a rule totally made up by society.

And I personally feel she's right not to want to name her son after a man who was off gallivanting with some other supermodel while she was pregnant. Not exactly endearing behavior.

[louiswinthorpe111]

Originally Posted by PrettyGirl

A woman's first connection to her baby is usually during pregnancy. She loves it immediately.

That's bullshit. Obviously, you've neer had a child. Even when I gave birth, I was not overshadowed with an immediate connection. That kid could have gone to anyone, and he wouldn't have known the difference. My point is, some women are not overwhelmed or hit with an immediate mother/child connection, I think for a lot of people, this is something that grows over time.

I think PrettyGirl has her own unresolved feelings with her parents, which is why she's so Pro Tom Brady.

I say Bridget carried the damn kid, she can name him whatever she wants. Being a father is a priviledge, not a right. Tom didn't step up to the challenge or his obligations while she was pregnant. Maybe he'll do the right thing now.

[kchal]

I'm a Pats fan but still feel it is HER right to give the baby whichever last name she wanted - he lost that 'right' to have a say in it when they broke up. Regardless, ENT lawyer pointed out that the kids initials spell Jet - as in NY Jets - rivalry of Pats - Now THAT is funny John Edward Thomas - JET

[crumpet]

That child deserves to have his father's name.
Why is a man entitled for his child to have his last name? For godssake, it's the woman who is pregnant for 9 months and goes through delivery and basically sacrifices her first few years of the baby's life, so why in the hell couldn't her kid have her name?

I didn't change my name when I got married because I liked having an unusual last name that sounded good with my first name. I have encountered my share of ignorant thinking over that,too. Why is it so hard for some people to question the conventional way of doing things, most of which is rooted in some sort of sexist or racist tradition in the first place?

I just don't like this idea that a man has a right to have his woman or his kid branded with his name like they are his fucking property.

[MrsDark]

Originally Posted by louiswinthorpe111

That's bullshit. Obviously, you've neer had a child. Even when I gave birth, I was not overshadowed with an immediate connection. That kid could have gone to anyone, and he wouldn't have known the difference. My point is, some women are not overwhelmed or hit with an immediate mother/child connection, I think for a lot of people, this is something that grows over time.
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I don't think it's bullshit. It just may not be true for all women. It was for me. I felt a bond with my son way before he was born. It's hard for me to understand how a woman wouldn't. Unless maybe the pregnancy was unwanted or unplanned, etc. But everybody is different. For some women maybe there is no real connection until after the baby is born and a relationship is developed over time (whether that's days/hours or weeks/mos). But honestly more often you see that with the men.

She could have done like Miranda on SATC and named him Brady Moynahan. That's kind of cute actually.

[darksithbunny]

Originally Posted by DeadDwarf

FYI: I just had my daughter on Saturday and when I filled out her birth certificate I was allowed to put whatever name I wanted. I could have made up a last name and it would have been her legal name.

Awww! Congrats on you new baby girl!

I think in some cultures, the women's last name is used instead of the man's.

[Laxmobster]

Originally Posted by kchal

I'm a Pats fan but still feel it is HER right to give the baby whichever last name she wanted - he lost that 'right' to have a say in it when they broke up.

Exactly how did he give up his "rights" by breaking up with her? The child is still 50% his so he has half the say in all matters concerning the child. I also think this was done out of spite on her part. Although I feel that the mother can choose whatever name she feels like, as long as she has consulted the father.

[curlysem]

Originally Posted by PrettyGirl

^Exactly. It's not about having a 'dick'. It's about being fair. You want a man in your child's life, you want him to be there for the birth, you want him to recognize the child as his own and yet, when a man does all this, there are still some women who refuse to give the child his rightful family name. Bridget's romantic relationship with Tom ended, but the relationship between this baby and his father just started. She has no right to rob this baby of his birth name because his mom was angry at his dad at the time. That's an entirely separate issue.

I live in California and you can give your child any last name you want. So, believe me, Bridget wasn't forced to give her child her last name--she gave it to him because she wanted to. And, as previously stated by Purple Rain above, I think it is vindictive. If Bridget didn't want anything to do with Tom, she wouldn't have wanted him there period, wouldn't have included 'Thomas Edward' in the kid's name and wouldn't want a penny from him. I'm sure Tom isn't the only one who's moved on. I'm sure in a few months we'll see Bridget dating. When relationships are over, when people are single, that's what they do--they date.

Tom Brady hasn't denied the child at all. He didn't pull an Eddie Murphy on Bridget, didn't ask for a DNA test and he hasn't bad-mouthed her either. He has taken responsibility for this kid, said publicly he and his family were excited about the impending birth. So yeah, with that in mind, I think the child should have his father's last name. This guy basically dropped the new girlfriend and and an entire NFL team to fly to L.A. and be at his son's birth and I'm almost sure he's going to give Bridget financial assistance. That's more than what most loser men would do nowadays.

Don't ask a man to recognize his child, be there for the birth, be part of it's life and then when he does so, you then punish the man by deciding not to give his firstborn child his last name. That's wrong.

bridgette has the right not to give her child his father last name. she dont need too. my mother didnt give me my father's last name, he was never there for me. he only visited me when he felt like it, so screw tom he left his girl for another one, too bad.

i want to point out bridgette was a model, and way better looking that fugly gisselle.

[Chilly Willy]

Some people are so old fashioned. Of course my baby is going to have my last name. And if my last name differs from the father's name, so be it. He can have my name, too.

Why do I have to adapt my husbands name and not vice versa?