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    Quote Originally Posted by PecanPie View Post
    Yes, but the portion of the contract from when she was 18 to just this year - didn't she sign for that? Unless I'm reading it wrong, the original contract negotiated by her dad was from ages 12-18.

    It's entirely possible the terms of both contracts were crap ... but she was a legal adult when she signed the second one.

    Just wondering if she would be so angry about the Curb deals if her last few recordings had done very well, though. Her MO seems to be to blame anyone but herself when things don't go her way.
    If I am understanding what I am reading correctly, the original contract was for twenty years, it would have taken her from age 12 to age 31-32. The original contract had a provision that said that when she turned 18 she could not get out of / challenge the contract on the grounds that she was a minor when she signed. However when she turned eighteen she did exactly that, she went to court to have the Curb contract thrown out because she was a minor when she signed and the court ruled against her. According to reports she planned to appeal the ruling but in the end the contract was renegotiated. Yes you can say that she was eighteen when she signed a "new" contract, but she was not a free agent and was not coming from strength and I suspect that Curb carried over elements from the original contract most in their favor and threw LeAnn a bone or two relating to creative input and management selection.

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    What a shitty thing Wilbur did to Leann - and for his own personal gain. (Though I guess it's possible, he didn't fully understand what he signed). So, her parents really did a number on her - stunting both her career and her emotional growth. Makes me almost feel sorry for her. Still, she's 32 now. She should at least take care of her own emtional maturity by now.

    If Leann and Eddie really have as much money, as they claim, then I just don't get, why they don't take some time off and enjoy the good life. No more 3rd tier casino gigs, no more humiliating reality shows, work on some pet projects instead. Is the need to be and remain famous really that strong.

    That reality show was a bad idea. If she had taken time off before the reality show, she could have come back in 5-10 years and be remembered as that kid with the voice. Now, people are more likely to remember her as that annoying reality person, who once had an affair and wrote an album and did a tv show about it.

    Whoever is advising Leann on her career now, they still seem to be thinking mostly about short term gain, and not about where she/her career will be in 10 years.
    They have the income that they have because of the 3rd tier casino gigs and live the good life the 25 days a month LeAnn doesn't work. I think for them the reality show can be categorized as a pet project that they hope / hoped would be another income stream.

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    If the original contract was still in force there should have been no reason to re-sign. Which is how it was expressed in the Billboard story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougie View Post
    They have the income that they have because of the 3rd tier casino gigs and live the good life the 25 days a month LeAnn doesn't work. I think for them the reality show can be categorized as a pet project that they hope / hoped would be another income stream.
    Oh please, the casino and lawn chair tour does not generate enough income to live the good life. I believe she does those concerts because she's afraid of dropping out of public eye, when dropping out of sight for a while would probably do her and her career good.

    Quote Originally Posted by PecanPie View Post
    If the original contract was still in force there should have been no reason to re-sign. Which is how it was expressed in the Billboard story.
    It's possible she renogatiated to get a better deal. Although by her own admission, it was still the worst deal in the world.
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    ^ But if the parties to the original contract agree to renegotiate and come to a meeting of the minds, then the old contract is replaced by the new one, had there not been a renegotiation then the old contract would have remained in force unless LeAnn won her appeal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idunno View Post
    If Leann and Eddie really have as much money, as they claim, then I just don't get, why they don't take some time off and enjoy the good life. No more 3rd tier casino gigs, no more humiliating reality shows, work on some pet projects instead. Is the need to be and remain famous really that strong.

    That reality show was a bad idea. If she had taken time off before the reality show, she could have come back in 5-10 years and be remembered as that kid with the voice. Now, people are more likely to remember her as that annoying reality person, who once had an affair and wrote an album and did a tv show about it.

    Whoever is advising Leann on her career now, they still seem to be thinking mostly about short term gain, and not about where she/her career will be in 10 years.
    i totally think more than being famous, she wants to be adored and treated like the miracle child prodigy she once was. forcing people to like you by calling them, because they said bad things about you on twitter, or having a reality show to try to become likable is not the right way to come across as this great person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougie View Post
    ^ But if the parties to the original contract agree to renegotiate and come to a meeting of the minds, then the old contract is replaced by the new one, had there not been a renegotiation then the old contract would have remained in force unless LeAnn won her appeal.
    Yes - if that was the case then she is responsible for the terms of that contract. It's possible there was only so much negotiating room and that the terms were still not overly favourable to her. But she never seems to take responsibility for herself or her actions. The terms of the contract should not have prevented her from putting out music people want to hear, from showing up to events and treating her fans well, and putting professionalism and creative energy into her career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by idunno View Post
    Oh please, the casino and lawn chair tour does not generate enough income to live the good life. I believe she does those concerts because she's afraid of dropping out of public eye, when dropping out of sight for a while would probably do her and her career good.
    Let me ask this, do you think that residing in Hidden Hills, wearing designer labels, vacations in Aspen, Mexico and Hawaii represent the good life? I think so, now don't get me wrong, Taylor Swift, Rihanna and Beyonce are living the good, good life, but from a material standpoint vis a vis most Americans, LeAnn Rimes' life is pretty swell.

    I don't think that performing in Canyonville, OR, Peshawbestown, MI and Snoqualmie, WA are keeping LeAnn Rimes in the public eye. My understanding is that the casinos, theme parks and the like tend to pay a set fee and the entertainer gets paid that fee if 20 seats are filled or it's standing room only, and that for below B-List music acts, the casino circuit is considered a good source of income.
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    Quote Originally Posted by blah_blah_blah View Post
    I've only been gone a day and a half and I've come back to read all you tossers feeling sorry for her. As the youth these days say *SMH*
    Compassion for a twelve year old does not extend to compassion for the grown woman that is capable of making adult decisions now, regardless of what was done long ago. I think this board could triple in pages of our own stories told of not so perfect childhood scenarios. Grow up and grab that shit back. That is true power.

    *steps down from soap box and if they give me shit I will produce my hungover blood alcohol level as a defense

    ^^^and I am cool with the casino rodeo scene! but call it what it is. It is not a tour!
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    Quote Originally Posted by PecanPie View Post
    Yes - if that was the case then she is responsible for the terms of that contract. It's possible there was only so much negotiating room and that the terms were still not overly favourable to her. But she never seems to take responsibility for herself or her actions. The terms of the contract should not have prevented her from putting out music people want to hear, from showing up to events and treating her fans well, and putting professionalism and creative energy into her career.
    You will get no argument from me about LeAnn's penchant for not taking responsibility for her actions, but given the circumstances and options, I'm not that put out about her signing the re-negotiated contract as an adult and then later referring to it as a crappy contract.

    I think that she has put creative energy in her career, I just don't think that her creative output is commercially viable - I actually think that her creative energy including her partnership with Darrell Brown has become an indulgence. I think that she would be better off letting someone else with a proven track record in country, pop or whatever take the reins and see what comes of that collaboration.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PecanPie View Post
    If the original contract was still in force there should have been no reason to re-sign. Which is how it was expressed in the Billboard story.
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    Oh please, the casino and lawn chair tour does not generate enough income to live the good life. I believe she does those concerts because she's afraid of dropping out of public eye, when dropping out of sight for a while would probably do her and her career good.

    It's possible she renogatiated to get a better deal. Although by her own admission, it was still the worst deal in the world.
    I think the "renegotiation" was more about her saving face, and to stop the money bleeding on both sides. Lawsuits cost a lot of money, and she lost the first round. It was also costing Curb to defend it, so they probably made a few concessions to her to drop the appeal. Obviously they didn't cut her loose and she still had to stay with them for the time period agreed to in the original deal.

    Quote Originally Posted by PecanPie View Post
    Yes - if that was the case then she is responsible for the terms of that contract. It's possible there was only so much negotiating room and that the terms were still not overly favourable to her. But she never seems to take responsibility for herself or her actions. The terms of the contract should not have prevented her from putting out music people want to hear, from showing up to events and treating her fans well, and putting professionalism and creative energy into her career.
    I agree, even in a recent interview, she acted like the label pretty much ignored and stifled her, so it was their fault. The fact is, she was already known as bratty and unprofessional before the lawsuit was even filed, and all the negative publicity of her filing suits against her father and her record label probably didn't help her reputation. And of course she's continued on the path of cancelling gigs and badmouthing the current country stars which I doubt endears her to the industry. "The Affair" put her back on the map and brought attention, maybe that's all she cares about, but I don't see how it's helped her career at all. The dismal reception for Spitfire pretty much says it all, and I really doubt her "dance remix" or Christmas album will change much. She can't blame Curb anymore, so she'll have to come up with something else.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trixie View Post
    I think the "renegotiation" was more about her saving face, and to stop the money bleeding on both sides. Lawsuits cost a lot of money, and she lost the first round. It was also costing Curb to defend it, so they probably made a few concessions to her to drop the appeal. Obviously they didn't cut her loose and she still had to stay with them for the time period agreed to in the original deal.



    I agree, even in a recent interview, she acted like the label pretty much ignored and stifled her, so it was their fault. The fact is, she was already known as bratty and unprofessional before the lawsuit was even filed, and all the negative publicity of her filing suits against her father and her record label probably didn't help her reputation. And of course she's continued on the path of cancelling gigs and badmouthing the current country stars which I doubt endears her to the industry. "The Affair" put her back on the map and brought attention, maybe that's all she cares about, but I don't see how it's helped her career at all. The dismal reception for Spitfire pretty much says it all, and I really doubt her "dance remix" or Christmas album will change much. She can't blame Curb anymore, so she'll have to come up with something else.
    Totally agree. It's also telling that there has been no rush to sign her and seemingly little interest. That's got nothing to do with Curb and everything to do with the professional reputation - or lack of same - she created. Kelly Clarkson was vocal about her feelings about her former contract but she's talented, hard working, appreciates her fans and doesn't spend her time whining and blaming.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blah_blah_blah View Post
    I've only been gone a day and a half and I've come back to read all you tossers feeling sorry for her. As the youth these days say *SMH*
    (Sighs deeply) I know, I know.... it's mortifying, but like Mr Bennett, "I am not afraid of being overpowered by the impression. It will pass away soon enough."

    Just to be on the safe side, if anybody catches me writing a "Chicken Soup for the LeAnn Rimes' Soul" please stage an intervention or throw me in a padded cell without internet access.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PecanPie View Post
    Totally agree. It's also telling that there has been no rush to sign her and seemingly little interest. That's got nothing to do with Curb and everything to do with the professional reputation - or lack of same - she created. Kelly Clarkson was vocal about her feelings about her former contract but she's talented, hard working, appreciates her fans and doesn't spend her time whining and blaming.
    AND...Kelly Clarkson sells records. Why would any label be in a rush to sign someone whose last offering sold 13k copies?
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    Of COURSE Leann had the WORST contract ever in the history of contracts in the music industry. Her producer, songwriter and father-figure Barrell Clown agrees, it was THE WORST EVER! Just like she has the truest love that ever loved story. Eddie is the BEST father and most romantic, caring, adorig husband in the history of the universe. Thanks to her jazzercise aerobics classes she is a world class dancer, her instructor brags about how amazing Leann is. She is the sweetest, kindest, most HILARIOUS and prettiest singer and person, her 12 fans say this every day. The smoothie she had for breakfast was the best, most AMAZING smoothie sha has EVER had and better than you will EVER have! She's a delusional narcissist. And a compulsive bragger/liar.

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    She does love her superlatives, that one

    haha after I posted that & glanced at it, it looked like "superlaxative"

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