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    Quote Originally Posted by dougie View Post
    An episode of Love & Hip Hop Atlanta aired at 8:00.
    Is that huge? I've heard of it, but don't watch any of these channels...is that also on VH1?

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    I glanced at the numbers for last night here: UPDATED: THE SKED CABLE/NETWORK THURSDAY SCORECARD ‚Äď 7/31/14 | Showbuzz Daily
    And looked at last week's Dating Naked here: Cable Ratings 7pm until Midnight for Thursday 24 July 2014

    Obviously not exact calculations, I just rounded off. Gotta run out, so maybe someone else can give the exact ones...

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    She probably was a brat. Still 12 years old. Sure, we send kids to war that we don't allow to vote, but this is stinky on a different way..... it's...off. I'm actually more suspicious of the proceedings after she turned 18: her lawyer either had shit for brains or there was some sort of mitigating information LeAnn wanted to keep bolted down and 100% out of sight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lindsaywhit View Post
    She probably was a brat. Still 12 years old. Sure, we send kids to war that we don't allow to vote, but this is stinky on a different way..... it's...off. I'm actually more suspicious of the proceedings after she turned 18: her lawyer either had shit for brains or there was some sort of mitigating information LeAnn wanted to keep bolted down and 100% out of sight.
    If you google her dad, Andrew Keegan, etc. together, you'll see about the countersuit. There was a lot more going on.
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    Oh I agree it stinks to high heaven and really makes no sense. Even if the Curb guy was a slimy snake oil salesman, and LeAnn's parents were the worst money-hungry stage parents on the planet, it's hard to understand. Presumably she should have been assigned her own lawyer (separate from her parents' lawyer) and still it's unbelievable that a judge (or maybe even 2 judges, in Texas and Tennessee?) would have approved it. Could a child of 12 even get emancipation at that age if they tried? Yet it's ok to sign away that kind of financial rights?

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    If you google her dad, Andrew Keegan, etc. together, you'll see about the countersuit. There was a lot more going on.
    Yep, by the time she was 18...well more like 15 really, she was out of control. But I still have a hard time being convinced she should have been held to something she signed at 12.
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    Quote Originally Posted by lindsaywhit View Post
    She probably was a brat. Still 12 years old. Sure, we send kids to war that we don't allow to vote, but this is stinky on a different way..... it's...off. I'm actually more suspicious of the proceedings after she turned 18: her lawyer either had shit for brains or there was some sort of mitigating information LeAnn wanted to keep bolted down and 100% out of sight.
    A court ruling upheld the contract that was signed when she was twelve, so her choices were to appeal that ruling and hope that the appeal went her way or renegotiate the contract. LeAnn did not seem to be coming from a position of strength with Curb and in the end they still had her locked in for twenty years.

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    I think that the appeal of the original Curb contract, as opposed to going with other labels, was allowing Wilbur to be her manager and a producer.
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    Well, that would certainly appeal to the father, allowing him a percentage as manager and additional earnings as a producer too. Quite easy to see why he wanted her on that label.

    A bit on Curb...

    Hank Williams Jr. and Hank Williams III battled with Curb over their ironclad contracts. It took Hank III a while to extricate himself from his. He publicized the fight with T-shirts saying "F**k Curb" (no asterisks).

    The late Buck Owens did not stay long at Curb in the early 90;s, nor did the late Hank Thompson who told me he didn't enjoy his brief experience there since the album he did for them was ill-promoted.

    As for Merle Haggard, who signed with Curb in 1990 after leaving Epic Records, he had a few things to say in his 1999 autobiography My House of Memories, In short, he complained Curb did not release or adequately distribute his recordings. He said, and I quote on pages 218-219:

    "There is nothing more frustrating than to be a recording artist who isn't recording or who, if he is, isn't getting his recordings released. The DJs in the world lost track of me because they was nothing new to play. Patty Hearst could have been on Curb. For that matter, Amelia Earhart may be there now. And Jesse James could've hid out there for a hundred years. The man (Mike Curb) should've been president. He's the greatest politician I've ever known. And don't we all love politicians?"
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    Yeah, the only thing worse than a rube is a greedy money-hungry rube, and Curb saw that one coming from a mile away.
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    Soooo.... a person who is considered legally incapable of making binding contracts can sign away their protection and it's considered to be part of the binding contract they weren't legally capable of making....

    Maybe I'm twisting something here and maybe the law does allow for children to do that, but if so, it seems pretty messed up. The second bad decision (removing the disability of minority) ensures that the first bad decision (entering into the contract) sticks.
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    and did they punish her when she fought to get out. no more hits for leann. obscurity city. "ill promotion"

    this needs to be a movie on lifetime, leann, fuck reality tv, do an autobiography! that's some sad shit. way sadder than cheating with a married guy...

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    Everything I've just read on Google states that in California a person cannot be legally bound to a contract until the age of 18. Leann really did get screwed royal. But does the fact that she signed a new agreement with Curb after suing them mean the first contract was voided because she was 12?

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    She would have been in TN at the time

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    she lived in texas i think. i read some article called daddy's little girl i think it's been referenced on here a lot. it's totally an awesome read. she was having viruses and sprained ankles at 18 ffs.

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    Because LeAnn was legally a minor, the Curb lawyers had her go to courts in Dallas and Tennessee to get an order affirming the contract. The Tennessee court was asked to remove LeAnn's "disability of minority," which is a legal provision that allows a minor, upon turning eighteen, to disavow a contract he or she entered into as a child.

    it basically says in the article that the deal was signed cuz they gave her dad a lot of control. he didn't want her to have any ouside influences.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trixie View Post
    For the Rimes family, it was too good to be true. Little LeAnn would sing, and her daddy would quit his job selling oil-field pipe and become a full-time music producer. They were so excited that they told Curb they wanted to record lots and lots of albums—not just mainstream country music albums, but inspirational-gospel albums as well. No problem, said Curb. Because LeAnn was legally a minor, the Curb lawyers had her go to courts in Dallas and Tennessee to get an order affirming the contract. The Tennessee court was asked to remove LeAnn's "disability of minority," which is a legal provision that allows a minor, upon turning eighteen, to disavow a contract he or she entered into as a child.
    What a shitty thing Wilbur did to Leann - and for his own personal gain. (Though I guess it's possible, he didn't fully understand what he signed). So, her parents really did a number on her - stunting both her career and her emotional growth. Makes me almost feel sorry for her. Still, she's 32 now. She should at least take care of her own emtional maturity by now.

    If Leann and Eddie really have as much money, as they claim, then I just don't get, why they don't take some time off and enjoy the good life. No more 3rd tier casino gigs, no more humiliating reality shows, work on some pet projects instead. Is the need to be and remain famous really that strong.

    That reality show was a bad idea. If she had taken time off before the reality show, she could have come back in 5-10 years and be remembered as that kid with the voice. Now, people are more likely to remember her as that annoying reality person, who once had an affair and wrote an album and did a tv show about it.

    Whoever is advising Leann on her career now, they still seem to be thinking mostly about short term gain, and not about where she/her career will be in 10 years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougie View Post
    A court ruling upheld the contract that was signed when she was twelve, so her choices were to appeal that ruling and hope that the appeal went her way or renegotiate the contract. LeAnn did not seem to be coming from a position of strength with Curb and in the end they still had her locked in for twenty years.

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    I think that the appeal of the original Curb contract, as opposed to going with other labels, was allowing Wilbur to be her manager and a producer.
    Yes, but the portion of the contract from when she was 18 to just this year - didn't she sign for that? Unless I'm reading it wrong, the original contract negotiated by her dad was from ages 12-18.

    It's entirely possible the terms of both contracts were crap ... but she was a legal adult when she signed the second one.

    Just wondering if she would be so angry about the Curb deals if her last few recordings had done very well, though. Her MO seems to be to blame anyone but herself when things don't go her way.
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    I've only been gone a day and a half and I've come back to read all you tossers feeling sorry for her. As the youth these days say *SMH*
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