Guy told Madonna she looked like a granny...and other interesting stories

**buttmunch** · October 17th, 2008, 05:25 PM

Madonna is building an extraordinary divorce case against Guy Ritchie, claiming he was a cruel and verbally-abusive husband who would belittle and ridicule her in front of others.

Lawyers for the singer, who was widely believed to be the dominant partner in the marriage, are putting together a dossier of incidents.

They include allegations that he told her she 'looked like a granny' on stage compared with her younger backing dancers. He is also alleged to have declared that she could not act, and was 'past it' after she turned 50.
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Guy Ritchie

Madonna, left, has accused husband Guy Ritchie of cruelty

Her lawyers say that 40-year-old Ritchie's comments made Madonna feel worthless, unattractive, unfeminine, insecure and isolated during their eight-year marriage.

The Mail has learned that Madonna's case will chronicle how she first fell for Ritchie because she felt he was a challenge and that he was tough enough to stand up to her.

However, she apparently soon started to become affected by her husband's alleged put- downs which eventually started to eat away at her legendary confidence.

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A source close to the couple told the Mail: 'It might seem incredible that Madonna should be suggesting Guy was the dominant one in this marriage and that she was somehow the belittled party. But the thing about divorce is that there are always two very different perceptions of what went on.

'It frequently happens when the wife sits down with her legal team and starts working out a strategy to build a picture of the husband being some kind of unreasonable belligerent monster.

'The lawyers concentrate on a few regrettable incidents or exchanges and form a picture of the husband based just on that and all the good times are forgotten.

'In this case, Guy has come out rather badly. They concentrate on the belittling comments Guy has made to Madonna. There were times where he would ridicule her humour and say how Americans had no sense of humour.

'He would laugh sarcastically at her jokes and take the mickey out of her in front of other people. Also brought up are times when they went out for a meal where Madonna would accuse him of eyeing up a waitress.'
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Lady of the manor: 'Madonna's fascination for all things British is long gone'

And Madonna is also understood to charge Guy with damaging her confidence.

'Outwardly she's the material girl and bursting with confidence, but turning 50 really hit her hard. Madonna says Guy never said the right things to get her over that hurdle. She says he basically let her know that he thought she was over the hill. She said he had a subtle indifference towards her.

'She felt particularly vulnerable and felt Guy played on that, telling her that she looked "past it", which would damage her confidence. 'She is alleging he would tell her that she really should give up the live touring and that she looked like a granny compared to the nubile youngsters dancing with her on stage.

'She says that really belittled her. After a period of time, Madonna says the constant put-downs created a distance between them and that she felt totally isolated in the marriage. That's when the love started to die and when their sex life also suffered badly.'

Similarly Madonna alleges that her husband would make belittling comments about her acting ability when she starred in his film Swept Away, which was panned by the critics.

The extraordinary dossier has come to light as the pair prepare to slug it out over access to their three children.

Ritchie is currently fighting to get residence of their eight-year-old son Rocco with him in London.

He is understood to feel buoyant about the prospect of Rocco living with him in London having taken advice from his good friend Marco Pierre White who recently won custody of his two boys while his wife Mati has custody of their daughter Mirabelle.

Guy is understood to be trying to have Rocco remain at his British school at least in term times, arguing that it would be a major upheaval for him to be away from his friends and life here.

However, a British judge is likely to rule that Madonna and Guy's three children should not be split from one another - or their mother - without a very good reason.

There have been many previous precedents set in the British family courts where a mother and father have shared equal care of their children only for the mother to be allowed to emigrate with the children following a divorce.

Madonna is adamant that all three children, including her own daughter from a previous relationship, Lourdes, 12, and the couple's adopted Malawian son David Banda, should grow up in New York.'Guy said I looked like a granny,' Madonna accuses husband of cruelty | Mail Online

He's right on several counts: she is getting past it and starting to look ridiculous, she can't act and she doesn't have a sense of humor (although it is kind of stupid to say Americans in general don't). I cannot believe she is going to flog all this crap in public. She should have more sense and think of her kids. Although am enjoying it in a sicko kind of way.

**Grimmlok** · October 17th, 2008, 05:29 PM

but.. he was being honest

**Chimera** · October 17th, 2008, 05:29 PM

Was he trying to keep her from looking like the fool she looks on this tour?

**Beeyotch** · October 17th, 2008, 05:30 PM

Well, she is starting to look like a granny. A sad, attention-starved granny who insists on thrusting her vadge in our faces until the day she dies...

**Penny Lane** · October 17th, 2008, 05:32 PM

I don't buy this. Madonna would've crushed his head with her thighs a LOOONG time ago if he so much as uttered an unkind peep.

**NicoleWasHere** · October 17th, 2008, 05:33 PM

The average grandma doesn't look like she's been pushing roids, and bench pressing 250 on a daily basis.

**Chimera** · October 17th, 2008, 05:40 PM

Originally Posted by stylejunkiex

I don't buy this. Madonna would've crushed his head with her thighs a LOOONG time ago if he so much as uttered an unkind peep.

Right! I forgot we were talking about Madonna for a minute there.

**Jexxifer** · October 17th, 2008, 05:41 PM

Now, why would anyone think Madonna is unfeminine?

**buttmunch** · October 17th, 2008, 05:50 PM

I don't buy this. Madonna would've crushed his head with her thighs a LOOONG time ago if he so much as uttered an unkind peep.

Don't write things like that! Laughing so hard makes my hangover worse.

**kiwi8915** · October 17th, 2008, 06:04 PM

not buying this at all....

and it sounds like he was just being honest with her. i though that was the right thing to do in a relationship?

**kingcap72** · October 17th, 2008, 06:22 PM

Madonna is building an extraordinary divorce case against Guy Ritchie, claiming he was a cruel and verbally-abusive husband who would belittle and ridicule her in front of others.

Madonna must be having another hot flash because she does enough to belittle and ridicule herself.

**Grimmlok** · October 17th, 2008, 06:23 PM

**buttmunch** · October 17th, 2008, 06:40 PM

Grimm is finding the best pictures today....keep 'em coming.

**ana-mish-ana** · October 17th, 2008, 06:42 PM

Madonna's marriage finally broke down in a bitter row over a £1.5million gift she gave husband Guy Ritchie.
The singer handed over the cash for him to make a film but was furious when he announced he was suspending the project because of his troubled relationship and she demanded the money back.
Madge, 50, immediately phoned her lawyer Fiona Shackleton and declared: “It’s over with Guy. I want a divorce.”
The 40-year-old director incensed his wife when she gave him the gift in April to make a documentary and he told her: “After all I’ve been through, it’s too late.”
A source said: “After so much heartache, Guy just felt the way Madonna behaved over the loan wasn’t like a loving wife should.
“She acted like it was purely a business deal and not one based upon eight years of marriage.
“Guy was understandably very hurt by her handling of the whole situation.
“There is little wonder he reacted the way he did, who wouldn’t?
“A lot of Guy’s money is tied up and because of Madonna’s wealth she could effectively call upon the cash very quickly.
“That’s why he asked her. It wasn’t like the money was sat there in their joint account. Madonna was incensed, though. After sleeping on it, she thought enough was enough and phoned Shackleton the next morning to set up a meeting.
“The row was very much the straw that broke the camel’s back and she knew their marriage was over from that point onwards.
“To date, the matter has not been resolved and she is still expecting the ‘gift’ back.
“The film isn’t even completed. Guy is extremely cut up over this.”
News of the row came as Guy’s 79-year-old dad John branded Madonna “beastly” for having a public pop at his son on stage.

Exclusive: Madonna wants money invested in Guy Ritchie film back - mirror.co.uk
Wow - I didnt want to start a new thread. I think theres like 1000 of them already and I am starting to think there should be a section just dedicated to this. The amount of stories that coming out is hilarious.