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Old June 3rd, 2008, 03:54 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Default Brigitte Bardot convicted of provoking hatred



PARIS, France (AP) -- A Paris court on Tuesday convicted Brigitte Bardot of provoking discrimination and racial hatred for writing that Muslims are destroying France.

The court also handed down a $23,325 fine against the former screen siren and animal rights campaigner.

A leading French anti-racism group known as MRAP filed a lawsuit last year over a letter she sent to then-Interior Minister Nicolas Sarkozy. The remarks were published in her foundation's quarterly journal.

In the December 2006 letter to Sarkozy, now the president, Bardot said France is "tired of being led by the nose by this population that is destroying us, destroying our country by imposing its acts."

She was referring to the Muslim feast of Eid el-Kebir, celebrated by slaughtering sheep.

French anti-racism laws prevent inciting hatred and discrimination on racial or religious or racial grounds. Bardot had been convicted four times previously for inciting racial hatred.

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Old June 3rd, 2008, 04:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Coming to America soon...

The crazy thing is, she's right.
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Old June 3rd, 2008, 04:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It is more or less what most of the French feel,she can afford to say it loudly enough..
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Old June 3rd, 2008, 04:36 PM   #4 (permalink)
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stupid hateful old hag. the french slaughter animals too, and force-feed geese to make foie gras

..... mmmmm... foie gras. damn, now i'm hungry

.... anyhoo, i hate this mean old cow. she had no qualms about abandoning her son when he was little but she'll cut a bitch when it comes to animals. and she's married to a front national (extreme-right, racist political party) bigwig. and she's ignorant, crazy, full of shit and a total waste of oxygen.
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Old June 3rd, 2008, 04:41 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Damn, I thought she died about 10 years ago....guess not.
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Old June 3rd, 2008, 04:48 PM   #6 (permalink)
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She was referring to the Muslim feast of Eid el-Kebir, celebrated by slaughtering sheep.
And Thanksgiving is celebrated by slaughtering turkeys.
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Old June 3rd, 2008, 04:53 PM   #7 (permalink)
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It is more or less what most of the French feel,she can afford to say it loudly enough..
Thats not what we've heard from the circles that we mix in Effie, however, I do acknowledge that there are a number of right-wing French people that don't wish to acknowledge certain things/people... like Algerian Muslims.... I think that there are a number of people that believe this in any society. The French should be glad for the Muslims as it'll keep their farmers happy producing the sheep (inc EEC payments, etc)

As for this old hag, so it's OK to save sheep, but not to save people? Fair enough saving them but not by inciting other humans to race violence.
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Old June 3rd, 2008, 05:02 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Thats not what we've heard from the circles that we mix in Effie, however, I do acknowledge that there are a number of right-wing French people that don't wish to acknowledge certain things/people... like Algerian Muslims.... I think that there are a number of people that believe this in any society. The French should be glad for the Muslims as it'll keep their farmers happy producing the sheep (inc EEC payments, etc)

As for this old hag, so it's OK to save sheep, but not to save people? Fair enough saving them but not by inciting other humans to race violence.
I ve heard it not only from my rather right winged family,but from working class people..they strongly believe the immigrants should leave their customs behind and follow the French way of living.
It happens to many European countries lately..
I do not agree with her at all and i am glad to live in a place more tolerant and happy go lucky than most..
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There does come a point when the immigrant population does not assimilate into the country and culture they relocate into, and merely transplant their way of living, shoving the indigenous population off a cliff. Any immigrant SHOULD assimilate as best as he or she can, however still retain what cultural differences that make them unique in order to share such with the indigenous population (providing no conflict with established laws/social rules, etc). That's what can make a multicultural society so vibrant: one country, many homelands. The differences are what make life spicy.

Indigenous populations have a right to be pissed that they are being forced to accomodate immigrant 'demands' or 'special rights' or 'allowances' that have no place in the societal structure that is already established. A little leeway here and there is expected, as adjustments need to be made but outright non assimilation? Forget it. Assimilate or leave, otherwise it's a territorial fight for a way of life.

You can only be SO liberal with that kind of thing before you find yourself swamped and sidelined in your own country.
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How does she find the celebration of Eid to be a problem though? It is a festival of giving when one gives thanks for the blessings one have received. A large portion of the meat is given to the poor and the rest is shared with friends. That isn't "imposing" anything.
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I was speaking in more general terms, BB should be renamed BBB.. BatshitBrigitteBardot
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How does she find the celebration of Eid to be a problem though? It is a festival of giving when one gives thanks for the blessings one have received. A large portion of the meat is given to the poor and the rest is shared with friends. That isn't "imposing" anything.
We kill sheeps at Easter and roast it whole..its a custom.
We did it once in France in a Greek friend's yard and the locals totally lost it..lol
If my English was better i would say what Grimm said.
Problem is what might bother me,doesnt bother others,so there is no set rules here..complicated.
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I don't see how she's "provoking hatred", that's a pretty stupid thing to say. She's just expressing her views.
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Well, I guess France doesn't have freedom of speech the way we do here. That said, she's still a scunt. In the U.S. she would be publicly vilified, but not charged with a crime.
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There does come a point when the immigrant population does not assimilate into the country and culture they relocate into, and merely transplant their way of living, shoving the indigenous population off a cliff. Any immigrant SHOULD assimilate as best as he or she can, however still retain what cultural differences that make them unique in order to share such with the indigenous population (providing no conflict with established laws/social rules, etc). That's what can make a multicultural society so vibrant: one country, many homelands. The differences are what make life spicy.

Indigenous populations have a right to be pissed that they are being forced to accomodate immigrant 'demands' or 'special rights' or 'allowances' that have no place in the societal structure that is already established. A little leeway here and there is expected, as adjustments need to be made but outright non assimilation? Forget it. Assimilate or leave, otherwise it's a territorial fight for a way of life.

You can only be SO liberal with that kind of thing before you find yourself swamped and sidelined in your own country.
Jeez Grim, don't you live in Toronto? 30 years ago this was a wasp city of heritage Scots. Now Toronto has every kind of skin colour, religion, and heritage possible, and yet there is no tension. Why do you think that is?
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