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    Jameela Jamil wants the world to know her side of the story following the claims made against her by Brooklyn-based development executive Tracie Egan Morrissey.

    Earlier this week, the “Good Place” actress went on the defensive after Morrissey posted a story to her Instagram account alleging the actress suffered from Munchausen syndrome, a disorder characterized by a person faking mental or physical illnesses for attention. Morrissey’s posts went viral on Wednesday, with Jamil, 33, calling their author a “poorly researched stalker.”

    The confrontation further escalated when, on Thursday night, Morrissey said Jamil contacted her privately via Instagram direct messages. In response to the exchange, Morrissey posted screenshots of the alleged messages to her Pot Psychology Patreon account.

    “This was really disturbing to see,” Jamil stated in the exchange, according to Morrissey. “I’m a real human being, and someone who has suffered extreme mental health issues, already being battered globally this week, and this… is how you use your time..?”

    Jamil then went on to refute claims that Morrissey’s Instagram post made about her sexuality, mercury poisoning and broken bones.

    “You’re just trying to kick a woman when she’s down,” Jamil concluded, according to Morrissey.

    Jamil then took to Twitter to contact Morrissey and asked to speak to her by phone. Morrissey gave her phone number, but their conversation continued on social media instead.

    Morrissey exclusively told Page Six that she has no prior relationship with Jamil other than their banter and that she is certainly not a “stalker.”

    “Jameela has been publicly calling me a stalker and calling me a stalker in her DMs, but she sent me unsolicited DMs on two different social media platforms over the course of two days,” Morrissey said via phone. “All I did was look at publicity interviews [she did on various occasions] from my kitchen [and piece them on a timeline].”

    “The one thing that bothers me and sort of kicked all of this off, is she, starting back when she came out as queer last week, her coming out as queer she kind of blamed it on the press and said that they had misreported that she was the host of this show when literally that’s what appeared in the press release,” Morrissey said. “As an EP [executive producer] of the show, you would think she would look at the press release before it was sent out. She went after the press for misreporting it, but it’s literally their job to report facts and what’s true, and I find that offensive. And she’s continued to blame the press [for bad coverage].”

    Morrissey also noted that “people have come out of the woodwork” to share their Jamil stories with her, but she “has not repeated anything they’ve said.”

    “The only thing I’ve done is posted screenshots and clips of things that she said in interviews and on her own social media,” Morrissey affirmed. “They’re direct quotes. If she wants to call those lies, that’s really telling.”

    She also clarified that she never said that Ehlers-Danlos syndrome is not a real disease as Jamil implied she did.

    Meanwhile, James Blake, Jamil’s boyfriend since 2015, stepped into the fray, posting a lengthy defense to his Twitter account.

    “It’s pretty disgusting to watch the woman I love just be dog piled on every day for such ridiculous things,” Blake notes. “She hasn’t sold dangerous products to kids. She hasn’t abused anyone. She hasn’t funded anything dangerous or brought any deliberate harm to any marginalized group…I am there for her swollen joints, her dislocations, her severe allergic reactions, her constant high fevers. I was there for her concussion, her 3 months of seizures, when the doctor gave her the cancer diagnosis, and for all of her operations and their complications due to EDS.”

    “I can feel the lumps in her back from the car accident and see all the scars…I actually live with her. Her being attractive, tall, and successful doesn’t mean she hasn’t been sick.”

    In a follow-up tweet, Blake attacked Morrissey’s decision to post Jamil’s private exchange to the pay-wall website Patreon as “profiting off exploiting and gaslighting a young woman of colour with a chronic illness.”

    Despite their back-and-forth, Morrissey continues to be a fan of Jamil’s work.

    “I actually really enjoyed ‘The Good Place’ and I think she’s funny,” she said.

    Jamil’s rep didn’t immediately get back to us.

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    James Blake Defends Girlfriend Jameela Jamil’s Health Claims: ‘She Had Such a Difficult Life’

    James Blake is sharing his support for girlfriend of five years, Jameela Jamil, as she fights accusations that she is lying about her health problems.

    The singer, 31, shared a lengthy note about Jamil on Twitter, defending her from claims that she has Munchausen syndrome, or factitious disorder, a mental illness that causes people to fabricate health scares for attention.

    “It’s pretty disgusting to watch the woman I love just be dog piled on every day for such ridiculous things,” Blake wrote. “… She does this because she had such a difficult life. Because she doesn’t want others to feel alone, gaslit or ashamed the way she has.”

    He goes on to detail Jamil’s health problems, many of which have been called out on social media for inconsistencies.

    “I am there for her swollen joints, her dislocations, her severe allergic reactions, her constant high fevers,” he said. “I was there for her concussion, her 3 months of seizures, when the doctor gave her the cancer diagnosis, and for all her operations and their complications due to EDS [Ehlers-Danlos syndrome]. I can feel the lumps in her back from the car accident and see all the scars. I am there when she turns down amazing job opportunities because of her health limitations. I actually live with her. Her being attractive, tall, and successful doesn’t mean she hasn’t been sick.”

    Blake also directly addressed Jamil’s Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, a rare condition that affects the collagen and connective tissue in the skin.

    “Ehlers-Danlos syndrome is a very real, very debilitating condition,” he said. “More and more people are discovering they have it, but because it’s vastly under researched and the patients, as with most invisible disabilities look well, people constantly doubt and mock those suffering. May none of us every know the pain and frustration of that existence. I feel lucky not to, watching how many jobs and fun nights out my girlfriend has had to turn down because of what her body can and can’t do. Huge, life changing jobs.”

    The “Retrograde” singer said that people “don’t know this woman” the way he does.

    “You don’t know what her life is, and has been like. But I do, and I’m not gonna stand by and let some total strangers try to push my girlfriend over the edge,” he said. “… What are any of you even doing? And why are so many of you enjoying this? It’s sick to watch, and I don’t ever see men treated like this, the way we tear women from limb to limb.”

    Blake said he would’ve posted the note sooner, but Jamil “asked me not to.”

    In another tweet, Blake also called out — without using her name — Tracie Morrissey, who had compiled various interviews and video clips showing inconsistencies in how Jamil has talked about her health history and posted them on Instagram and her podcast, Pot Psychology. Morrissey shared the extensive messages that Jamil had sent her over the last two days behind a paywall on her Patreon on Thursday night.

    “Oh and FYI, the woman spreading these lies about my girlfriend has started a Patreon so that you have to pay her to hear them,” Blake wrote. “Literally profiting off exploiting and gaslighting a young woman of colour with a chronic illness. Cool.”

    Morrissey accused Jamil of lying about battling cancer twice, having Ehlers-Danlos syndrome, suffering injuries from multiple car accidents, getting mercury poisoning, managing seizures and several incidents where she was attacked by “killer bees.”

    Jamil called her out indirectly on Wednesday and again Friday morning, denying that she had lied about her health.

    “Not afraid of you or your dumb internet conspiracy theories. Keep them coming. You just add to my relevance,” she wrote. “I’m gonna keep helping people with eating disorders, and changing laws and global policies to protect kids and their mental health and there’s NOTHING you can do about it.”

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    This is so weird. You can’t tell if someone is faking an illness and it’s ridiculous and cruel to pick on someone like that, even in the off chance it did turn out to be true. Yeah Jameela comes off as being a little like the character she plays on the good place but just like her character, she means well. I’m also inclined to think this is just needlessly cruel bullying because of the people making the accusations. Egan Morrissey used to write for Jezebel and the guy she does the podcast with still does. He’s a smarmy asshole and she was hit or miss as a writer and as with all things Jezebel, there was some good stuff mixed in with a lot of hot takes and hipster mean girl nonsense.
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    I had no idea she had so much going on with her. I hope Jameela has a good support system around her. Poor thing is getting roasted alive lately. I mean the peanut allergy thing was a little odd but it's still plausible. It's just so hostile and rude to accuse someone of faking an illness.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sleuth View Post
    I had no idea she had so much going on with her. I hope Jameela has a good support system around her. Poor thing is getting roasted alive lately. I mean the peanut allergy thing was a little odd but it's still plausible. It's just so hostile and rude to accuse someone of faking an illness.
    My son has peanut allergy, and when he was little his allergist said a fair number of kids outgrow the allergy, but it was unlikely (not impossible) in his case, and iirc his reasoning was not just the severity of the allergy, but that he also had asthma and a lot of other allergies. It was a matter of his profile, what types of factors tend to occur in people who do or don’t outgrow it. Not sure if outgrowing it is what you meant by it being weird?

    Anyway, I have an invisible pain condition and the only person I talk about it to is a friend of mine who has lupus because she understands what it’s like. I barely mention it to my husband or kids, and certainly not to friends or acquaintances. I’m very uncomfortable seeing general practitioners (nonspecialists) because they tend to say things implying it’s all in my head. I find many people simply cannot empathize with something they cannot see, and my words are not good enough.
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    I'm so sorry Shinola! And I hate when people say "it's only in your head". It implies that you somehow magically have any control of what's going on in your head. It's not "only" in your head. If anything, in my opinion it's even worse. Also, all pain we experience is "only in our head". Such a stupid saying.
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    I'm sorry, Shinola. I have several Facebook friends who are very outspoken about how they are treated regarding their chronic pain conditions and how people treat them. It seems like a lot of people have these conditions, but they're made to suffer in silence and/or unable to explore options for treatment because almost no one believes them, including doctors.

    Jessicaoutofthecloset seems really cool and her video helped me understand unpredictability of certain conditions, like gluten allergies. I subscribed to watch more of her videos.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinola View Post
    My son has peanut allergy, and when he was little his allergist said a fair number of kids outgrow the allergy, but it was unlikely (not impossible) in his case, and iirc his reasoning was not just the severity of the allergy, but that he also had asthma and a lot of other allergies. It was a matter of his profile, what types of factors tend to occur in people who do or don’t outgrow it. Not sure if outgrowing it is what you meant by it being weird?

    Anyway, I have an invisible pain condition and the only person I talk about it to is a friend of mine who has lupus because she understands what it’s like. I barely mention it to my husband or kids, and certainly not to friends or acquaintances. I’m very uncomfortable seeing general practitioners (nonspecialists) because they tend to say things implying it’s all in my head. I find many people simply cannot emphasize with something they cannot see, and my words are not good enough.
    Not being facetious... the pain may actually start all in your head. There's a pain paradox and within the brain is a system called the pain-descending control circuit that sends a signal down the Central Nervous system and back up into the cortex. Some research has shown that when there is a dysregulation within that system people experience pain more intensely and it may also play into the development of chronic pain.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Charmed Hour View Post
    Not being facetious... the pain may actually start all in your head. There's a pain paradox and within the brain is a system called the pain-descending control circuit that sends a signal down the Central Nervous system and back up into the cortex. Some research has shown that when there is a dysregulation within that system people experience pain more intensely and it may also play into the development of chronic pain.
    For me, it started with a physical injury, and I do think the central nervous system is heavily involved, so yes. But that’s not what doctors mean when they say things like maybe you’re just depressed or when they won’t order tests or refer to specialists when I have other symptoms. The take is either that the pain isn’t real and significant unto itself, or that whatever other problems I might have should just be folded into the original diagnosis and ignored.

    Anyway not meaning to hijack the thread, I guess if I have a point it’s that invisible ailments are prevalent, and a lot of people are probably like me and generally don’t mention what’s going on. Factitious disorders, by contrast, are evidently rare. Ime very few people want to be seen as a medical disaster or as someone who needs constant pity or whatever. No reason to make something up when it will only lead to being disrespected.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinola View Post
    Factitious disorders, by contrast, are evidently rare. Ime very few people want to be seen as a medical disaster or as someone who needs constant pity or whatever. No reason to make something up when it will only lead to being disrespected.
    I'm sure they're not common, but in my old job I used to have to summarise thousands of pages of medical records for insurance claims, and the lengths that some people would go to so they could remain in the "invalid role" were insane. Some were clearly malingerers, some suffered from factitious disorders, but despite all the medical evidence saying there was nothing majorly wrong with them, they would still undergo spinal surgery or other invasive treatments, just to keep their families/doctors/insurance companies believing they were truly injured. It was sad and/or infuriating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by faithanne View Post
    I'm sure they're not common, but in my old job I used to have to summarise thousands of pages of medical records for insurance claims, and the lengths that some people would go to so they could remain in the "invalid role" were insane. Some were clearly malingerers, some suffered from factitious disorders, but despite all the medical evidence saying there was nothing majorly wrong with them, they would still undergo spinal surgery or other invasive treatments, just to keep their families/doctors/insurance companies believing they were truly injured. It was sad and/or infuriating.
    Out of curiosity, what kinds of spinal or other invasive treatments are on offer for someone who doesn’t have anything much wrong with them?

    I need to study up so I can learn to malinger, obviously.
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    ^If a team of health care specialists tell a person their minor injuries would resolve in a couple of months if they did some exercise and physiotherapy, but the person refuses and insists they have to have surgery. It was mind-boggling, reading the doctors' reports and seeing that the patients went ahead with the surgery anyway.
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    don't doctors share some (if not most) of the responsibility for agreeing to operate on patients that don't need it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinola View Post
    For me, it started with a physical injury, and I do think the central nervous system is heavily involved, so yes. But that’s not what doctors mean when they say things like maybe you’re just depressed or when they won’t order tests or refer to specialists when I have other symptoms. The take is either that the pain isn’t real and significant unto itself, or that whatever other problems I might have should just be folded into the original diagnosis and ignored.

    Anyway not meaning to hijack the thread, I guess if I have a point it’s that invisible ailments are prevalent, and a lot of people are probably like me and generally don’t mention what’s going on. Factitious disorders, by contrast, are evidently rare. Ime very few people want to be seen as a medical disaster or as someone who needs constant pity or whatever. No reason to make something up when it will only lead to being disrespected.
    The research suggests that people have a dysregulation following injury, illness or inflammation. Chronic pain is a huge problem and not enough research is being undertaken for it. You're right that too many physicians fold it into the original illness/injury/disease course or write it off altogether. Interestingly, chronic pain and depression are mutually exacerbating. I feel like many practitioners don't look for root cause-- like chronic pain having such an impact that yeah, you are depressed or that depression is causing physical pain.
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