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    Eliza Dushku Accuses 'True Lies' Stunt Coordinator of Molesting Her at Age 12

    Eliza Dushku is speaking out in an open letter with allegations of being sexually assaulted by True Lies stunt coordinator Joel Kramer when she was just 12-years-old.
    The actress, now 37, played the role of Arnold Schwarzenegger‘s daughter in the 1994 movie.
    “When I was 12 years old, while filming True Lies, I was sexually molested by Joel Kramer, one of Hollywood’s leading stunt coordinators,” Eliza began her open letter. “Ever since, I have struggled with how and when to disclose this, if ever. At the time, I shared what happened to me with my parents, two adult friends and one of my older brothers. No one seemed ready to confront this taboo subject then, nor was I.”
    “I am grateful to the women and men who have gone before me in recent months. The ever-growing list of sexual abuse and harassment victims who have spoken out with their truths have finally given me the ability to speak out. It has been indescribably exhausting, bottling this up inside me for all of these years,” she continued.
    Eliza went on to describe in detail what happened when Kramer, who was 36 at the time, lured her to his hotel room and rubbed all over her with his naked body. She also alleges that after an adult friend of hers confronted him, that she was injured on a stunt he oversaw the next day.
    Eliza says that she gained the conviction to stand up to her abusers from all the fans who tell her that her characters give them strength as well.
    Most recently, Kramer has worked as the stunt coordinator on films like Blade Runner 2049, The Conjuring 2, and the television series Westworld and Star Trek: Discovery.


    Eliza Dushku’s Full Open Letter

    When I was 12 years old, while filming “True Lies”, I was sexually molested by Joel Kramer, one of Hollywood’s leading stunt coordinators.
    Ever since, I have struggled with how and when to disclose this, if ever. At the time, I shared what happened to me with my parents, two adult friends and one of my older brothers. No one seemed ready to confront this taboo subject then, nor was I.
    I am grateful to the women and men who have gone before me in recent months. The ever-growing list of sexual abuse and harassment victims who have spoken out with their truths have finally given me the ability to speak out. It has been indescribably exhausting, bottling this up inside me for all of these years.
    I remember, so clearly 25 years later, how Joel Kramer made me feel special, how he methodically built my and my parents’ trust, for months grooming me; exactly how he lured me to his Miami hotel room with a promise to my parent that he would take me for a swim at the stunt crew’s hotel pool and for my first sushi meal thereafter. I remember vividly how he methodically drew the shades and turned down the lights; how he cranked up the air-conditioning to what felt like freezing levels, where exactly he placed me on one of the two hotel room beds, what movie he put on the television (Coneheads); how he disappeared in the bathroom and emerged, naked, bearing nothing but a small hand towel held flimsy at his mid-section. I remember what I was wearing (my favorite white denim shorts, thankfully, secured enough for me to keep on). I remember how he laid me down on the bed, wrapped me with his gigantic writhing body, and rubbed all over me. He spoke these words: “You’re not going to sleep on me now sweetie, stop pretending you’re sleeping,” as he rubbed harder and faster against my catatonic body. When he was ‘finished’, he suggested, “I think we should be careful…,” [about telling anyone] he meant. I was 12, he was 36.
    I remember how afterwards, the taxi driver stared at me in the rear view mirror when Joel Kramer put me on his lap in the backseat and clutched me and grew aroused again; and how my eyes never left the driver’s eyes during that long ride over a Miami bridge, back to my hotel and parent. I remember how Joel Kramer grew cold with me in the ensuing weeks, how everything felt different on the set.
    And I remember how soon-after, when my tough adult female friend (in whom I had confided my terrible secret on the condition of a trade that she let me drive her car around the Hollywood Hills) came out to the set to visit and face him, later that very same day, by no small coincidence, I was injured from a stunt-gone-wrong on the Harrier jet. With broken ribs, I spent the evening in the hospital. To be clear, over the course of those months rehearsing and filming True Lies, it was Joel Kramer who was responsible for my safety on a film that at the time broke new ground for action films. On a daily basis he rigged wires and harnesses on my 12 year old body. My life was literally in his hands: he hung me in the open air, from a tower crane, atop an office tower, 25+ stories high. Whereas he was supposed to be my protector, he was my abuser.
    Why speak out now? I was 12, he was 36. It is incomprehensible. Why didn’t an adult on the set find his predatory advances strange — that over-the-top special attention he gave me. Fairly early on he nicknamed me “Jailbait” and brazenly called me by this name in a sick flirty way in front of others (at the time, I remember asking one of my older brothers what it meant). Sure, I’ve come to understand the terrible power dynamics that play into whistle-blowing by “subordinates” against persons in power, how difficult it can be for someone to speak up. But I was a child. Over the years I’ve really struggled as I’ve wondered how my life might have been different if someone, any one grown-up who witnessed his sick ways, had spoken up before he lured me to that hotel room.
    Years ago, I had heard second hand that Joel Kramer was “found out” and forced to leave the business. I learned recently that in fact he still works at the top of the industry. And a few weeks ago, I found an internet photo of Joel Kramer hugging a young girl. That image has haunted me near nonstop since. I can no longer hide what happened.
    Hollywood has been very good to me in many ways. Nevertheless, Hollywood also failed to protect me, a child actress. I like to think of myself as a tough Boston chick, in many ways I suppose not unlike Faith, Missy, or Echo. Through the years, brave fans have regularly shared with me how some of my characters have given them the conviction to stand up to their abusers. Now it is you who give me strength and conviction. I hope that speaking out will help other victims and protect against future abuse.
    With every person that speaks out, every banner that drops down onto my iphone screen disclosing similar stories/truths, my resolve strengthens. Sharing these words, finally calling my abuser out publicly by name, brings the start of a new calm.
    Eliza Dushku


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    That his horrible. Abusing women and children in Hollywood seems more like the rule than the exception. It's disgusting.

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    How did it come to be that she was alone in a hotel room of a grown man at 12 years old? Where were her parents?

    Poor girl, I've always liked her.
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    People keep asking when this is going to stop. People say there is a risk of saturation. I suppose that’s true, but what’s the alternative? To tell people like Eliza we’ve had enough? This problem has been left to fester and rot in gigantic cesspools right under the surface glamour of Hollywood for decades. It’s now like a snowball gathering speed as it rolls down the hill, and if we as a society are doing the right thing, it’s not going to stop for a very long time.

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    Why didn’t an adult on the set find his predatory advances strange — that over-the-top special attention he gave me. Fairly early on he nicknamed me “Jailbait” and brazenly called me by this name in a sick flirty way in front of others (at the time, I remember asking one of my older brothers what it meant).

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    Quote Originally Posted by dksnj View Post
    How did it come to be that she was alone in a hotel room of a grown man at 12 years old? Where were her parents?
    My guess is he lied to her parents about who would be there at the hotel and/or what was going to happen and they had no idea she would go to his room rather than the pool (or a changing room). She mentions that he groomed her for months and built up trust with her and her parents in that time.

    Her description of the incident just makes me feel sick. It's extremely vivid and really hits home for me just like Philip Seymour Hoffman's widow's article about his death. I feel so bad for Eliza, and I'm glad she came forward to try and protect other kids from him. And then to know that she suddenly had an "accident" on set after someone confronted him about the abuse... holy crap. He could have gotten her killed just to cover his tracks.
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    Whatever the reasons she ended up with this man, she did. She's still the victim. A 12 year old little girl that this man openly nicknamed "Jailbait". Sickening.

    This movie was filmed on location. Miami to be exact. She probably had one of her parents with her while it was being filmed. The stunt coordinator probably used some sort of lie about who would be there and when. I can't imagine he told her parents that he was bringing her, alone, to his hotel room to watch movies and have a late night swim.

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    Eliza Dushku’s ‘True Lies’ Legal Guardian Backs Actress’ Sexual Assault Claims, Calls Joel Kramer “Pedophile” – Update

    by Nellie Andreeva tip January 13, 2018 4:30pm



    UPDATED with Sue Booth-Forbes’s full statement: Actress Eliza Dushku earlier today accused famed stunt coordinator Joel Kramer of sexually molesting her when she was 12 years old during filming of True Lies. Her claims, denied by Kramer, are being confirmed by Sue Booth-Forbes, who was Dushku’s legal guardian on the set of the film.
    Dushku’s mother, Judith Ann Rasmussen, also confirmed Dushku’s story in a Facebook post. A political science professor, her job prevented her from accompanying her daughter. Dushku’s brother, Aaron Dushku, told Deadline, “I support my sister and believe it all to be true.”


    In True Lies, Dushku played the daughter of Arnold Schwarzenegger and Jamie Lee Curtis’ characters.
    Booth-Forbes, now Director of Anam Cara Writer’s and Artist’s Retreat, provided her account to Deadline that backs Dushku’s accusations against Kramer. “Eliza Dushku is telling the truth,” said Booth-Forbes who added that she was on the set of True Lies for three weeks and reported Kramer’s misconduct but nothing happened. She also said that she unsuccessfully tried to keep Kramer away from the young actress on a set ruled by “misogyny” and that she accompanied Dushku to the hospital after a stunt accident had left her with broken ribs.

    In her post, former Dollhouse star Dushku claims that, soon after Kramer had assaulted her in a hotel room, she suffered broken ribs in a stunt gone wrong under Kramer’s supervision. He alleges that the mishap had only left the actress a “little bruised.”
    Booth-Forbes hails her former charge for speaking out and becoming part of the force behind Hollywood’s reckoning on sexual misconduct.
    “May Eliza be believed and supported and may her courage in telling her truth make a contribution to the sea change that is in progress,” Booth-Forbes said.
    Booth-Forbes has since expanded on her comments. She shared with Deadline that she is concerned about what impact her statement exposing “unscrupulous, powerful, narcissistic, men without boundaries” would have on her, her reputation, and her business.
    “But this time I am refusing to allow myself to be intimidated,” Booth-Forbes said. “Joel Kramer did what Eliza said he did. He is a pedophile, and he must face the consequences.”
    In her emotional post, Buffy The Vampire alumna Dushku details the alleged sexual assault by Kramer and talks about the impact it has had on her and the role played by the people in power who could’ve prevented it but didn’t. “Hollywood has been very good to me in many ways,” she wrote. “Nevertheless, Hollywood also failed to protect me, a child actress.”
    Here is Booth-Forbes’ full testimony:
    Eliza Dushku is telling the truth.
    I was her legal guardian and took seriously my need to have her in my sight at all times, which was often difficult to do. I was on the True Lies set for 3 weeks and reported Joel Kramer’s inappropriate sexual behavior towards 12-year-old Eliza to a person in authority. I was met with blank stares and had the sense that I wasn’t telling that person anything they didn’t already know.
    I was at the hospital and can verify that she was hurt and in pain with breaks/cracks to her ribs. Surely they have medical records somewhere to prove that.
    I tried to keep Joel away from her as did others working on the set, but because of all the stunts she had to do, he was constantly involved with her and her body. Those who knew didn’t know what to do and were far enough down the pecking order to be afraid of losing their jobs if they pressed the issue because all the power lay in the hands of those who called the shots and would stop at nothing to protect each other.
    It has been 25 years, and I am grateful for the current efforts to stop this madness. I am so proud of Eliza for writing her eloquent, accurately detailed account of the trauma she suffered at his hands. So much about her journey since then can be explained by her feeling powerless to protect herself and prevent his abusing her. He creeped me out and sexualized everything; in fact that was the atmosphere of the set the entire time I was there. I did the only thing I knew to do then — report his behavior to someone with some clout, and that went nowhere. I look back now and realize that Eliza’s natural, adorable feistiness had taken on a patina of defensiveness/protectiveness for good cause.
    As I look back on the experience, there should never have been a child on that set because of the misogyny, sexual language and attitudes of the crowd of immature white men who made up the vast majority of the crew. She was treated like one of the boys, not a 12-year-old girl. I also look back wishing I had done more but forgiving myself a bit because there was really nothing I could do given the power structure of the movie industry. Everyone one involved has to turn a blind eye to such things in order to keep their jobs and not get in the way of the movie being made. Lord have mercy if something stopped the moneymaking wheels from turning.

    That was years ago when that power structure was the norm, and the bullies were in charge. Only now does it appear that women and men know what to do and are doing it. May Eliza be believed and supported and may her courage in telling her truth make a contribution to the sea change that is in progress.
    As I write this, I can feel a bit of the paranoia caused by associating my name, hence my business, with this volatile subject. No wonder people over time haven’t told their truth. Such unscrupulous, powerful, narcissistic, men without boundaries will do anything they have to to protect themselves, their reputations, each other, and most significantly their money. I have to wonder what could they do to me, my reputation, and my business.
    But this time I am refusing to allow myself to be intimidated. Joel Kramer did what Eliza said he did. He is a pedophile, and he must face the consequences.



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    I wonder if Jamie Lee Curtis will have anything to say about this.

    So I guess back then no one reported such things to the police? Just to the person in charge of the set?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trixie View Post
    I wonder if Jamie Lee Curtis will have anything to say about this.
    She had a lot to say about this:

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    Yesterday, Eliza Dushku published her account of having been molested during the shooting of the movie “True Lies,” in which I played her mother. She had shared that story with me privately a few years ago. I was shocked and saddened then and still am today.
    We have all started to awaken to the fact that the terrible abuses now commonplace in daily news reports have been going on for a very long time. Unconscionably, those reports frequently come along with claims by the perpetrators that, as adults, those perpetrated against had some part in it.
    Eliza’s story has now awakened us from our denial slumber to a new, horrific reality. The abuse of children.
    I have pretended to be the mother of young actors for a long time. Even at 19, when I was in the original “Halloween,” I was the babysitter to then-child actor, Kyle Richards. After I hit the mom-in-movies age, I have pretended to be the mom of the future Harry Potter (Daniel Radcliffe) and Frodo Baggins (Elijah Wood) and have worked with numerous other young actors, including Macauley Culkin, Anna Chlumsky, and Lindsay Lohan.
    It is a complicated relationship working with children as they are being asked to do adult work with you in an adult field, surrounded by hundreds of adults who want them to perform for them, and yet are still inherently children. I have wrestled with my role as a mentor, colleague, surrogate, and friend, and each relationship is individual and unique. Are we really friends? Are we work mates? Children are not mature enough to recognize that subtle difference. I was so conscious of my adult self and foibles that I implemented the use of a swear can on the set of “My Girl.” I knew that we had children present and that adult language was inappropriate. Naturally, I was the biggest contributor to the can and handed Macauley and Anna the lucrative contents on their last day.
    There are industry-wide legal protections for these young performers that have been long-held and hard fought. There are always teachers and advocates and adult family members or surrogates for the children on set and rigid rules that need to be followed. Yet sadly, as with any rules, these are often broken.
    We’ve recently heard reports of agents abusing their young actor clients and now this story from Miss Dushku. What compounds the difficulty here is that the stunt coordinator in question was literally in charge of our lives, our safety. Stunts always require an enormous amount of trust and on that movie in particular we all were often suspended by wires and harnesses, very high in the air. In my case, I was suspended under a helicopter by a wire, holding onto the hand of the man who is now being accused of abuse.
    I hope today that what can come from all of these exposures are new guidelines and safe spaces for people ― regardless of age, gender, race or job ― to share their concerns and truths and that all abusers will be held accountable.
    All of us must take some responsibility that the loose and relaxed camaraderie that we share with our young performers has carried with it a misguided assumption that they are adults in an adult world, capable of making adult choices.
    Many of us involved in “True Lies” were parents. Jim, Arnold and myself. Parents of daughters. What allegedly happened to Eliza, away from the safety net of all of us and our purview is a terrible, terrible thing to learn about and have to reconcile.
    The truth will set us all free. Hopefully that freedom will bring a new ability to call out abuse and, when that abuse occurs, to have swift and consistent action, so that no one again will have to wait 25 years for their truth to be heard.

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    Trying to find a picture of this scum.

    On the heels of Eliza Dushku accusing famed stuntman Joel Kramer of sexually assaulting her on the set of the 1994 movie True Lies when she was 12 and he was 35, Kramer has been dropped as a client by his agency, Worldwide Production Agency.

    “WPA has elected to part ways with Joel Kramer based on the allegations of misconduct now being reported. Such behavior is unacceptable and entirely at odds with the the standards of conduct we demand of ourselves, and expect from our clients,” the agency’s president and general counsel Richard Caleel said in a statement to Deadline.

    In an emotional Facebook post, Dushku recalled how Kramer lured her into his hotel room where he molested her. He has denied the claims but they have since been backed by a number of people close to the actress, including her legal guardian on the set, her former agent, her mom and brother and a close friend.

    Kramer has worked on dozens of movies over the past few decades, most recently Blade Runner 2049.

    ?True Lies? Stuntman Joel Kramer Dropped By Agency Over Eliza Dushku | Deadline
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    I found a video of him. It helps me when I can picture who we're talking about.


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    Quote Originally Posted by dksnj View Post
    How did it come to be that she was alone in a hotel room of a grown man at 12 years old? Where were her parents?

    Poor girl, I've always liked her.
    This was her mother's response to someone who called her out for not protecting her daughter:



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    Whatever the reasons she ended up with this man, she did. She's still the victim. A 12 year old little girl that this man openly nicknamed "Jailbait". Sickening.

    This movie was filmed on location. Miami to be exact. She probably had one of her parents with her while it was being filmed. The stunt coordinator probably used some sort of lie about who would be there and when. I can't imagine he told her parents that he was bringing her, alone, to his hotel room to watch movies and have a late night swim.
    By the sound of it that's exactly what happened. The impression was given that Eliza would be part of a crowd and supervised.
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    Kramer's response

    “This is all vile lies,” Kramer, 60, told Us, denying that he was alone in a hotel room or taxi with her, as she alleged. “I never molested this young woman, ever. Who in their right mind would do that and then still work with someone another six months or seven months or however long we had left to work together, wouldn’t that be a little weird?”

    “I talked to the stunt people on the [film] and asked did Eliza get hurt, because I don’t remember her getting hurt. When you harness someone you can get bumps and bruises, but I don’t remember her breaking any ribs and all of a sudden she is viciously attacking me,” he said. “We all treated Eliza like family. I just don’t get the vicious outright lies…”

    Kramer told Us that a woman who worked with Dushku, 37, as a teacher or a manager on the set told him that the pre-teen was infatuated with him.

    “She said, ‘Look, Eliza has a big crush on you, she is always asking me, ‘Oh, I bet Joel is dating all the women,’ ‘I bet Joel is screwing a lot of women,’ so I said then we have to be careful with this one,” he told Us. “At that age they are impressionable and my job as a stunt coordinator was to get Eliza to trust us, because she has to do stunts, she has to be in harnesses. Stunt doubles did all the big stunts, Eliza did close-ups on camera, we wanted her trust and we treated her like family. I just don’t know what is going through her mind.”

    Kramer said he is now considering legal action.

    “I probably have to. I am angry, I am just hurt,” he told Us. “This is just out of nowhere and she has put out what she is going to say, so it is a he said, she said.”

    “My career is done,” he added. “She just ruined me.”

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    Oh please, bitch. Nobody randomly makes up molestation claims to ruin someone else's career 25 years later if it's not true. Never mind the corroboration of the legal guardian who was actually there. Get the fuck outta here.
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