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    Default Kristen Stewart: Not Being A Feminist Is "Really Ridiculous"



    Taking two years off, then working with a first-time director on Camp X-Ray:
    ďIím never really that precious about choosing projects that donít have every sure element that is a guaranteed good experience and/or success. Thereís a lot of risk involved in this job, and it doesnít bother meÖ Iíve had experiences that have made me go, ĎUgh, I have to be careful and make sure that every part is sturdy and that I wonít be let down.í If I was a director, I would be extremely conscious of my filmography. It says so much about the difference between putting your name on something and owning it instead of being one tiny part of it. Actors get to work all the time. If I make a bad movie every once in a while, I donít care. I didnít work after Snow White for about two years, but itís because a lot of these projects didnít come together. Iím decisive, but Iím definitely not a planner.Ē


    The criticism that she canít act: ďHonestly, I donít care. Itís fine. Iím really happy doing what Iím doing. Iím sure there are a ton of people out there who would hate my movies even if they saw all those, just as Iím sure there are people out there who are obsessed with Twilight and say, ĎI watched the series, and she completely let me down, and then I watched every one of her other movies, and I fĖkiní hate her!í And thatís cool! Just donít watch my movies.Ē


    Whether sheís politically active: ďI donít want to talk about that sĖt at all. Trust me, Iím only asking for it. When it comes time to stand up and affect change, Iím not the type of person to shout from the rooftops. Just because youíre an actor and in the public eye, people think thatís how you must be. But there are other ways to do that. Thatís not me.


    Sheís confused why some young women donít identify with feminism: ďThatís such a strange thing to say, isnít it? Like, what do you mean? Do you not believe in equality for men and women? I think itís a response to overly-aggressive types. There are a lot of women who feel persecuted and go on about it, and I sometimes am like, ĎHonestly, just relax, because now youíre going in the other direction.í Sometimes, the loudest voice in the room isnít necessarily the one you should listen to. By our nature alone, think about what youíre saying and say itóbut donít scream in peopleís faces, because then youíre discrediting us. Relating it to my one little avenue, people say, ďIf you want to make it in the film industry as a woman, you have to be a bitch.Ē No, you are going to ruin any chance you have and give us a bad name. Itís the overcompensation to where our generation goes, ďRelax,Ē because itís been easier for us, and because we donít have as much of the anger, so itís like we canít get behind it and itís a bit embarrassing. But that being said, itís a really ridiculous thing to say youíre not a feminist.


    [From The Daily Beast]



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    I agree with her. FINALLY a random celeb was asked about feminism and gave an answer I can get behind.

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    I actually really like what she says about feminism, I can totally agree with that
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    I agree with her too. And she seems pretty cool actually.

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    I'll take the less popular stance that I don't agree with her. The idea that some feminists are just too loud or whatever and the best way to be a feminist is to take it easy and not be strident has been the go-to position for a couple of decades. It's also a default liberal attitude.

    I'm feminist, and I'm liberal, and I don't think it's a good idea to go on being polite. I'm seeing that I really appreciate people who will speak up, and that labeling someone who does speak up as an extremist who is going too far is basically another way of saying shut up, don't rock the boat.

    People are not being victimy if they simply talk about ways in which they were legitimately victimized. They are not playing a victim card when they rightly point out facts about inequality. It's just that some people don't enjoy hearing it. It's not meant to make people comfortable. It's meant to raise awareness. You can't raise awareness with your head up your butt.
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    I think some women might say they are not feminists because (at least where I live) feminism is now often another word for "man hating/shaming". Thanks to my "I'm a proud feminist and guys suck"-friends I have read articles that told me how women should have sex "correctly" (no doggy-style and never give him a blowjob while you are on your knees!!!) or that women who want a traditional way of life (f.ex. taking his name when getting married, staying at home when there are kids) are a just destroying everything that feminists were fighting for in the last decades.

    Sadly those kind of feminists are getting covered in the media way too much so that the real point of feminism is getting forgotten.
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    I get what she's saying because I have personally been confronted by someone accusing me of not being a feminist because I choose to stay home with my daughter and because I didn't hyphenate her last name to include mine. She also thinks women are silly for spending time wearing makeup and coloring and/or styling their hair.

    At least she's on the right track compared to the other dingbats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KrisNine View Post
    I get what she's saying because I have personally been confronted by someone accusing me of not being a feminist because I choose to stay home with my daughter and because I didn't hyphenate her last name to include mine. She also thinks women are silly for spending time wearing makeup and coloring and/or styling their hair.

    At least she's on the right track compared to the other dingbats.
    I always figured feminism was about having the choice to work or stay home (or have your partner stay home), to be made up or not, to run marathons or go to yoga class or park it on the couch. I think people are silly for 99% of the shit they do, but whatever label you slap on it, as long as it's not hurting someone else, do your thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shinola View Post
    I'll take the less popular stance that I don't agree with her. The idea that some feminists are just too loud or whatever and the best way to be a feminist is to take it easy and not be strident has been the go-to position for a couple of decades. It's also a default liberal attitude.

    I'm feminist, and I'm liberal, and I don't think it's a good idea to go on being polite. I'm seeing that I really appreciate people who will speak up, and that labeling someone who does speak up as an extremist who is going too far is basically another way of saying shut up, don't rock the boat.

    People are not being victimy if they simply talk about ways in which they were legitimately victimized. They are not playing a victim card when they rightly point out facts about inequality. It's just that some people don't enjoy hearing it. It's not meant to make people comfortable. It's meant to raise awareness. You can't raise awareness with your head up your butt.
    I don't think she's saying feminists shouldn't be loud. I think she's saying there's a very vocal fringe group that make it seem like their feminist ideologies are what all modern day feminists believe. See KrisNine's post for example. Even feminists don't agree on a lot of things. Feminism is about equality, but within that there are many factions of feminists (pro-sex, anti-porn, pro-porn, etc). Being the loudest group doesn't mean you're right.
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    A lot of so-called feminists I know want all women to conform to their idea of feminism and consider those who don't feminist failures.
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    ^^^
    like what?

    Quote Originally Posted by stella blue View Post
    I always figured feminism was about having the choice to work or stay home (or have your partner stay home), to be made up or not, to run marathons or go to yoga class or park it on the couch. I think people are silly for 99% of the shit they do, but whatever label you slap on it, as long as it's not hurting someone else, do your thing.
    it's that, but it's also about identifying and fighting obstacles to equality in government structures, private sector, education, and most importantly, the minds of both men and women. because basically, everything we're taught from a young age reinforces a lot of sexist bullshit.
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    This may not be in keeping with the spirit of the discussion, but I think she looks really pretty in that photo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sputnik View Post
    ^^^
    like what?
    Like if you have kids, you can't stay home with them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tati View Post
    This may not be in keeping with the spirit of the discussion, but I think she looks really pretty in that photo.
    I was going to make the same comment! She somehow looks older and more mature too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sputnik View Post
    ^^^
    like what?


    it's that, but it's also about identifying and fighting obstacles to equality in government structures, private sector, education, and most importantly, the minds of both men and women. because basically, everything we're taught from a young age reinforces a lot of sexist bullshit.
    I definitely agree, and you're right that there is still a lot to fix, but we've also come a long way and some feminists act like it betrays the sisterhood to wear miniskirts or take some time out of the workforce.

    Speaking of government structures, I recently became a tax accountant and it really grinds my gears that all the forms say "taxpayer and spouse" and 100% of the ones I've seen list the man as the taxpayer. Even if the wife makes more money. It would seem to be a pretty easy change to Taxpayer 1 and 2 and it's one of those little things that just reinforces who's supposed to be in charge.
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