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    Which link?
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    So....did you guys follow the link and re-read Maureen Orth's stunning article about Woody Allen?! I read it when it first came out. I blocked out some of it because it made me fucking sick especially in light of the unpleasant encounter with his crazy my parents and I had in NYC when I was just a girl (I put that in another post somewhere and don't wanna repeat myself, I do that too much already!)

    Still amazed Orth's piece ever got published. And yes I am team Mia, and you know what? Re-reading the stuff about his relationship with his daughter Dylan reminded me of this incredibly uncomfortable recent pic of him with his daughters by Soon-Yi. Fucking pervert.

    Quote Originally Posted by greysfang View Post
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    It's linked in roslyntaberfan's post below--I bolded/enlarged it. Same author who wrote the current VF expose on Tom and the Scienos.

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    How Tom Cruise became the biggest kook in entertainment | Hadley Freeman | Comment is free | The Guardian

    How Tom Cruise became the biggest kook in entertainment
    Tuesday 4 September 2012 15.40 BST


    A forthcoming Vanity Fair article about the Scientologist movie star promises eye-popping revelations. It's the final proof that he has become the new Michael Jackson


    Tom Cruise opening of a Church of Scientology building in Madrid. Photograph: AP

    In his excellent essay on Michael Jackson, now titled simply Michael and included in the recently published collection Pulphead, US journalist John Jeremiah Sullivan looks with clear eyes and a gossipy but open mind at how the media – specifically the white media – lobbed "passive-aggressive accusations" against Jackson for pretty much his entire adult life: "We moan that Michael changed his face out of self- loathing. He may have loved what he became," writes Sullivan.

    I'll admit, I find it difficult to imagine that Jackson – who, according to Sullivan, was using medication to knock himself out not for hours but whole days – was a man overburdened with self-love. But Sullivan does touch on one of the many sad truths about Jackson's life: how useful he was to the media as the resident freakshow, the vessel into which all mockery about the weird, self-centered, overly permissive world of celebrity could be poured.

    There are always celebrities around, usually in the Los Angeles area, who can justly be described as at least slightly doolally. To want to be famous requires a crackpot nature from the start; to then become A-list world-famous would drive most into the far reaches of egocentric lunacy.
    But there is also always one person who is decreed to be the weirdest, loopiest, LOL-iest show in town, the one about whom anyone can say anything and, no matter how deranged it sounds, it will have the smack of plausibility to it. During much of the last century it was the reclusive, compulsive Howard Hughes. When he finally died in 1976, pain-raddled and filth-riddled, Jackson was conveniently around to fill the role, which he ably did until the end of his life. Even before Jackson died, a new keeper of the weirdo flame was already lining himself up nicely to take over.

    With his freakishly perfect face, Tom Cruise has always come across more like a sexless android attempting to be a human than human himself, one who had studied earthlings from abroad and was attempting to live among them. In Rob Lowe's otherwise blandly unrevealing autobiography, Stories I Only Tell My Friends, he describes filming The Outsiders back in 1983 with Cruise, Patrick Swayze, Matt Dillon and a slew of other pretty boys all waiting to be famous. During the shoot, the actors occasionally had to share bedrooms and the only one who protested, Lowe recalls, was Cruise. Panicked, he called his agent to make the producers find a single bedroom for this unknown 20-year-old actor. It's an anecdote that brings to mind the scene in Tootsie in which Dustin Hoffman's female persona "Dorothy" realises she'll have to share a bedroom with Jessica Lange on a weekend away. How to maintain the artifice 24 hours a day?

    But it wasn't until 2004 when Cruise fatefully fired his publicist, Pat Kingsley, and replaced her with his sister, Lee Anne De Vette, that it really became obvious who would follow in the ignoble footsteps of Hughes and Jackson in the media pantheon as Cruise, for really the first time in his life, was pummelled by various PR disasters. Cruise replaced his sister with a professional publicist a year later, but it was too late. When he sneered at psychiatry and then jumped on Oprah's sofa, he did the equivalent of extolling the joys of oxygen chambers and toting about a chimp. The final kicker for Cruise's reputation was when his third wife, Katie Holmes, fled their marriage this summer, and now the bloodied gloves are truly off.

    Vanity Fair – a magazine that has puffed Cruise possibly more than any other, publishing the first photos of his daughter Suri and cooing over the loving normality of his family life and how ridiculous all the nefarious gossip about him is – will this week publish an excoriating takedown of the actor. The article alleges, among many other things, that in 2005 the Church of Scientology embarked on a project to find a suitable partner for Cruise and interviewed various women.

    Eventually, they settled on a young actress and she accompanied Cruise on charmingly romantic dates in New York: just her and Cruise and various Scientology agents, all watching to see if she was up to snuff. When, for various ridiculous reasons it was decided that she wasn't, Cruise outsourced dumping her to a Scientology official. The woman then made the mistake of confiding what had happened to someone she considered a friend in the Scientology centre in Florida, only to then be punished by being forced to scrub toilets with a toothbrush, like the Cinderella story in reverse.

    Incidentally, the article was written by Vanity Fair's celebrity-destroyer-at-large, Maureen Orth, whose previous articles include a particularly eye-popping one about Woody Allen during his break up from Mia Farrow and several similarly brutal ones about Michael Jackson.

    Cruise and the Church of Scientology have, of course, denied all charges but this horse has bolted. Coming after the New Yorker's extraordinary article about the church in 2011, and just as Paul Thomas Anderson's cinematic take on L Ron Hubbard, The Master, is being lauded in Venice, not even the best publicist in the world can save Cruise from his fate as the new Michael Jackson. He is the man who, most have decided, lives a life far weirder than anything anyone can say and so anyone can say anything, and he appears unable to do anything to refute the assumptions.

    Unlike Jackson, Cruise has never been accused of self-loathing or self-doubt. But it's hard to imagine that this deeply ambitious man loves what he has become.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kathie_Moffett View Post
    It's linked in roslyntaberfan's post below--I bolded/enlarged it. Same author who wrote the current VF expose on Tom and the Scienos.
    Good grief. That article on Wody Allen is just chilling. OMG!
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    Quote Originally Posted by McJag View Post
    Good grief. That article on Wody Allen is just chilling. OMG!

    It is. He creeped me the fuck out before, but this is just beyond. This man should be nowhere near young children. EVER.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McJag View Post
    Good grief. That article on Wody Allen is just chilling. OMG!

    I only got through the first two pages before needing a shower I wonder how Dylan is doing now. Creepy fucker


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    I remember reading the Woody Allen article when it was first published, read it again, not like I needed the refresher. Also wondered how Dylan is doing now, we hear about Satchel (can't remember his new name) but not her.

    And yeah I know Soon-Yi wasn't really his "daughter" but the worst part is she was obviously an emotionally troubled and learning impaired girl, which makes his predatory behavior even worse.

    And...am I the only one who is reminded of Dylan in this pic? The "new" adopted daughter has the same general look about her...not so much in the face, but her complexion and hair color...like he has a "type."

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    I just read that article about Woody. Christalmighty. He's a monster, period.

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    He's got a Soon-Yi Jr. and mini-Mia now. Fucking kiddie-diddler.
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    Ugh I only got to page 5 and couldn't take it anymore. Sick fuck.
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    I got through the first paragraph of the Woody Allen article and I want to puke and take a shower in bleach

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    Sorry to go OT, but this picture still eats my soul.



    I read that article a long time ago, and then again recently, and it really is worse the more times you read it. Bleach showers are necessary to get through that.

    It always reminds me of how Woody Allen came out in support of Roman Polanski when he was being held for extradition. Those kind of men really know how to stick together. Hollywood is still a boy's club full of sick bastards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by greysfang View Post
    It is. He creeped me the fuck out before, but this is just beyond. This man should be nowhere near young children. EVER.
    And he's rich and powerful, so he's getting away with it. Hopelessly fucked up. That pic Waterslide quoted eats my soul, too. He's so smug.

    Huge sorry to everyone who felt like losing their lunch over that article, though. I know it was rough reading. Kind of like a rap sheet in prose...

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    But what made Katie Holmes better to marry than Nazanin? They were completely unbelievable as a couple. She was Catholic and he was a wingnut Scientologist. He's only playing the part of a heterosexual male, so I would think the woman already involved in Scientology would be easier to control/train. Hell, they would have made a more believable couple and she was better looking than Holmes. I think him choosing Katie had something to do with the pregnancy and birth of Suri. Katie being pregnant with his or someone else's baby sealed the deal because he wanted "proof" out there that he was able to produce kids.

    I personally don't think she's biologically his. He took his kids with Kidman away from her, why didn't he do the same thing with Suri? I think he'll just let that go because he is afraid the truth about Suri will come out so he's letting Katie have her way.

    As for Mimi, I always thought she was the one that introduced him into Scientology...? I never followed Cruise, so I can't be sure if I read that or just assumed it.
    Totally agree with all the reasons posted just upthread...I especially liked Kittylady's which pointed out that, well, Katie's kind of dumb. I think she is very "malleable" in the right hands. Luckily for her, she has a kickass Dad who is now once again fully holding the reins. And she sure does have a trump card, doesn't she? Not sure her escape would have went so well if she didn't. Probably it's Suri's paternity, but man, there is so much else she could potentially be sitting on! Gossip gold mine!

    I hope the dirt keeps right on coming.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McJag View Post
    Good grief. That article on Wody Allen is just chilling. OMG!

    I know. The thing I do not understand is, why Mia let him adopt Dylan if he was already so obsessed with her?

    I also clicked on the link on MJ, C.S.I. in Neverland. DON"T read that one if you still have to eat! YUCK. How he did not get charged is beyond me. The way the jury reacted when that poor boy had to testify... Where they all M.J Loons?

    After reading about all these pervs. I actually take Tom Cruise over MJ and Woody Allen any day and that makes me

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    Quote Originally Posted by kasippu View Post
    I know. The thing I do not understand is, why Mia let him adopt Dylan if he was already so obsessed with her?
    Many times that obsession is mistaken for fatherly love. Mia didn't have many examples in her life to build an image of good fatherly involvement. Woody's interest seemed healthy to her, for a long time.

    Also, he was not only her mate but also her only source of income and good work. He allowed for her family's needs during shooting. He made a cozy environment for Mia to work in but for her kids to remain central. That tends to make women overlook things in general.

    My favorite theory (all my own) is that Woody moved out of NYC under duress. Reading that article again, the fucker fought dirty, used anything he could to keep access to Dylan and legitimize his relationship with Soon-Yi. And he up and just leaves his city suddenly never to return? The inspirational city for his movies and his life? I think not!

    My (fictional) reason for this is that Frank Sinatra (who paid Mia's legal fees during the debacle) put a hit on Woody or otherwise called in favors to make Woody's life a living hell if he stayed in NYC and insisted on seeing his kids with Mia.

    Just my story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by olivia View Post
    My (fictional) reason for this is that Frank Sinatra (who paid Mia's legal fees during the debacle) put a hit on Woody or otherwise called in favors to make Woody's life a living hell if he stayed in NYC and insisted on seeing his kids with Mia.
    You're not the only one who thought something along these lines. But I think Mia had a screw loose for letting him anywhere near those kids even after one or two of those things I read. I guess she didn't have a choice, in a way. Not without going to court. If he can't be trusted to be left alone with any one of them, had to go to fucking therapy to learn how to keep from being inappropriate with one (or more?) of them, that says a lot.
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