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    Quote Originally Posted by SHELLEE View Post
    I"d have my kids checked out if he was my baby daddy. I don't think these kinds can be rehabilitated. It's always the religious, political, fundies that set my perve radar off. No offense to the few of you that are not.
    Totally agree. If you care that much what other people are doing in their bedrooms, it's probably because you're doing something you're ashamed of in your own.

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    I am not sure he can't be rehabilitated. He was a young teen, with natural curiosities. The environment of their home would make sex even more exciting. He knew his parents were fucking around the clock. He was raised to believe sex is wrong without marriage. His sexual education was so bnormal that it would create an unhealthy fascination that may have been curbed once he married and got to have sex.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sluce View Post
    This could blow this family up. I hope the victims talk.
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    I'm not sure I buy that he didn't know he was doing something wrong. While the women are treated like second class citizens, they also make such a huge deal about the way the women dress, the way they "court", etc. They can't even do more than a side hug until they get married. He may be fucked up because of the idiots that raised him, but he knew what he did was wrong.
    Quote Originally Posted by sluce View Post
    I am not sure he can't be rehabilitated. He was a young teen, with natural curiosities. The environment of their home would make sex even more exciting. He knew his parents were fucking around the clock. He was raised to believe sex is wrong without marriage. His sexual education was so abnormal that it would create and unhealthy fascination that may have been curbed once he married and got to have sex.
    Agree.
    also, it says that at the time, josh was sleeping in the same room as his sisters, which tells us the parents weren't as hardcore about gender segregation in the house and asking sure the kids are never alone together. Having your oldest repeatedly fondle his sisters might be enough to make some already pretty fundie fanatics even loonier.
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    So the victims and perpetrator were all minors at the time. We're left with two adults; Jim Bob and Michelle. How the fuck is it even okay for this to be public?

    I hate everything the damn Duggars stand for but this is a huge violation for the kids involved.
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    Can this be the end of them, please? Michelle Duggar is such insufferable woman!

    From her anti-transgender rights campaign:

    “would allow men – yes, I said men – to use women’s and girls’ restrooms, locker rooms, showers, sleeping areas and other areas that are designated for females only” ... “Males with past child predator convictions [could] claim they are female to have a legal right to enter private areas that are reserved for women and girls. I doubt that Fayetteville parents would stand for a law that would endanger their daughters or allow them to be traumatized by a man joining them in their private space.” ...“Parents, who do you want undressing next to your daughter at the public swimming pool’s private changing area?”


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    Quote Originally Posted by sluce View Post
    I am not sure he can't be rehabilitated. He was a young teen, with natural curiosities. The environment of their home would make sex even more exciting. He knew his parents were fucking around the clock. He was raised to believe sex is wrong without marriage. His sexual education was so abnormal that it would create and unhealthy fascination that may have been curbed once he married and got to have sex.
    This is exactly what I was going to say. So many kids act out sexually with family members because they are curious about sex and their bodies, and either don't understand how to express their feelings and frustrations with similar-age peers or are afraid to. They choose family members because they are accessible and usually won't tell. When caught the kids sometimes don't even understand what they did was wrong or on the other side of the spectrum, are horribly embarrassed about what they've done. These kids aren't usually "sex offenders" in the true sense of the word and absolutely can be rehabilitated. Through comprehensive sex offender therapy, they can learn about sexual boundaries and norms and grow up to be upstanding people who never again commit another sex crime.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChemicalHelena View Post
    Please let this be the nail in their cross, er---coffin.


    It's certainly the end of any conservative Republican political career that Josh may have been contemplating. And it may be the beginning of the end for his parents' TV show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Just Kill Me View Post
    So the victims and perpetrator were all minors at the time. We're left with two adults; Jim Bob and Michelle. How the fuck is it even okay for this to be public?

    I hate everything the damn Duggars stand for but this is a huge violation for the kids involved.
    As much as I hate the Duggar freakshow, I agree with this statement so much. Kids/tweens have natural curiosities about sex and sometimes act on it. Where is the line between normal and molestation? If nothing else, the victims do not deserve being put out there and even though they haven't named names yet everyone is already speculating about the sisters.
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    So, as long as we're speculating, Michell or Jim Bob or someone else?

    Josh Duggar ‘May Have Been Sexually Molested Himself’ — Expert Says



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    Could Josh Duggar have been the victim of sexual abuse? HollywoodLife.com spoke EXCLUSIVELY with Steven Ornstein, a family psychologist, who suggests Josh’s alleged fondling of minor girls could be ‘repeat behavior.’

    Josh Duggar, 27, is at the center of a very shocking scandal, in which he is accused of molesting at least five minor females when he was 14 years old. Here at HollywoodLife.com we are trying to get to the bottom of how and why these horrific incidents could have occurred, and thanks to expert comments from family psychologist Steven Ornstein there may finally be some answers.
    Josh Duggar Molested As A Child? — Psychologist Claims ‘Repeat Behavior’

    As news of Josh’s dark past as an accused sexual offender continues to spread, HollywoodLife.com spoke EXCLUSIVELY to family psychologist Steven Ornstein in hopes of finding out how and why these incidents occurred. While he did provide some insight into the mindset behind why someone like Josh might have done something so terrible to young girls, it’s possible the situation could be even more troubling than it already is.
    “It’s quite likely that Josh was sexually molested himself,” Dr. Ornstein explained. “This kind of behavior repeats itself. His sexual misconduct at the age of 14 was not normal, and should have raised major concerns when it happened.”
    Dr. Ornstein continues to explain that Josh’s parents, Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar, did him a great disservice by not reporting the alleged molestations to the authorities when they happened.
    Josh Duggar Bombshell: Police Report Alleges He Molested 5 Female Minors

    “Obviously, something disturbing and inappropriate was happening to this then 14-year-old boy that needed further examination. Was he being sexually molested by someone close to him or his family? These are questions that Child Protective Services would have asked. They would have interviewed Josh extensively, as well as his parents and siblings,” says Ornstein, founder the Neurodevelopmental Learning Institute in Los Angeles.
    Unfortunately, as we all know now, that never happened. Now, almost a decade has passed since the allegations were made.
    Josh & His Family Should Still Be Interviewed By CPS, Says Expert

    Although lots of time has passed since Josh allegedly fondled and molested five underage girls when he was 14 years old, Dr. Ornstein believes he should still have to answer to CPS.
    “Children who suffer from sexual molestation need help and counseling. It doesn’t just go away,” Dr. Ornstein told HollywoodLife.com. “Josh should be interviewed, as well as his children. They should also interview Josh’s parents who still have young children at home.”
    For the record, Dr. Ornstein has not evaluated or treated Josh or any member of the Duggar family.
    Josh Duggar Molested As A Child? — Family Psychologist Claims ‘Repeat Behavior’ - Hollywood Life
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    Quote Originally Posted by stella blue View Post
    Totally agree. If you care that much what other people are doing in their bedrooms, it's probably because you're doing something you're ashamed of in your own.
    Thank you! My sister's church had this pastor (who has since resigned), who ALWAYS preached about how dangerous pornography was. ALL the time. I mean, yeah, it's normal for any preacher to preach about overcoming the sins of the flesh, etc. but not all the time, on ONE sin, every other Sunday. My sister was all: "WTF? Why is he obsessed with it if he ain't doing it himself?!"

    I think this whole thing is tragic for his victims. And that it was swept under the rug. If Jim Bob Side-Part was going to take it to authorities, did he not think it would eventually go public when they signed on for a show?

    When it first came out, I thought he'd been fooling around with a girlfriend his age. And I'm thinking "Uh...so what? Teenagers get hot and heavy." But to find out it was children? Jesus!

    And frankly I think Anna married him because she likes being on TV and getting attention.
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    I call bullshit on the defenses of Josh.

    The police report said he molested four sisters. There were five Duggar sisters at the time, the oldest being Jana, then 12. The police report said he didn't molest his oldest sister. So that leaves the others, who were:10, 9, 8 and 4 at the time. Incidents happened over a year, when Josh was 14-15. That is way beyond innocent childhood experimentation, which is usually mutual exploration between child peers. Josh deliberately skipped the sister closest in age and went for the pre-pubescents, and it was not an isolated incident, it was recurring behavior. We're talking a 14-15 year old, not a 3 year old. A teenager that age damn well knows not to molest a 4 year old!
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    From FB

    Please read the following messages:
    From Jim Bob and Michelle:
    Back 12 years ago our family went through one of the most difficult times of our lives. When Josh was a young teenager, he made some very bad mistakes and we were shocked. We had tried to teach him right from wrong. That dark and difficult time caused us to seek God like never before. Even though we would never choose to go through something so terrible, each one of our family members drew closer to God. We pray that as people watch our lives they see that we are not a perfect family. We have challenges and struggles everyday. It is one of the reasons we treasure our faith so much because God’s kindness and goodness and forgiveness are extended to us — even though we are so undeserving. We hope somehow the story of our journey — the good times and the difficult times — cause you to see the kindness of God and learn that He can bring you through anything.

    From Josh:
    Twelve years ago, as a young teenager I acted inexcusably for which I am extremely sorry and deeply regret. I hurt others, including my family and close friends. I confessed this to my parents who took several steps to help me address the situation. We spoke with the authorities where I confessed my wrongdoing and my parents arranged for me and those affected by my actions to receive counseling. I understood that if I continued down this wrong road that I would end up ruining my life. I sought forgiveness from those I had wronged and asked Christ to forgive me and come into my life. I would do anything to go back to those teen years and take different actions. In my life today, I am so very thankful for God’s grace, mercy and redemption.

    From Anna:
    I can imagine the shock many of you are going through reading this. I remember feeling that same shock. It was not at the point of engagement, or after we were married - it was two years before Josh asked me to marry him. When my family and I first visited the Duggar Home, Josh shared his past teenage mistakes. I was surprised at his openness and humility and at the same time didn't know why he was sharing it. For Josh he wanted not just me but my parents to know who he really was -- even every difficult past mistakes. At that point and over the next two years, Josh shared how the counseling he received changed his life as he continued to do what he was taught. And when you, our sweet fans, first met me when Josh asked me to marry him... I was able to say, "Yes" knowing who Josh really is - someone who had gone down a wrong path and had humbled himself before God and those whom he had offended. Someone who had received the help needed to change the direction of his life and do what is right. I want to say thank you to those who took time over a decade ago to help Josh in a time of crisis. Your investment changed his life from going down the wrong path to doing what is right. If it weren't for your help I would not be here as his wife — celebrating 6 1/2 years of marriage to a man who knows how to be a gentleman and treat a girl right. Thank you to all of you who tirelessly work with children in crisis, you are changing lives and I am forever grateful for all of you.
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    I'm going through the comments on that.

    "The devil attacks those who are on God's road because they are a threat to him. He doesn't waste his time on those who are already in sin because they're not with God. It's those who the devil feels threatened by and who are so successful that he feels the need to tear down. The fact that all of this is happening to the Duggars shows that they are a strong family doing God's work. Although none of this is right, they are a God fearing family and the Lord will glorify himself through them in the end. smile emoticon"

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