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    I have to really wonder if the Duggar's are sitting at home now thinking that the interview went great and according to plan? I sure hope they realize what a collossal mistake the interview was. They came off looking SO BAD, and it was all about Josh. Everytime they were asked about the daughter's they always brought it back to Josh, only sparingly mentioning "the others" (yes, that's what JB called his daughters).

    I don't understand why they would make so many claims that directly contradict the police report (which is why we know about this whole thing in the first place)? Did they think that people aren't going to read the report and just believe what they said?

    I don't for a second believe that Josh went and confessed anything to them. According to the police report, he was caught coming out of the girl's room, and another girl told on them in a separate incident. Josh didn't go and tell them jack.

    JB said it's OK because they were (most of the time) asleep and didn't even know anything had happened. Yet they were all able to recount what happened for the police report? Come on now! Their freaking "safeguards" to their problem child were to put all the blame on the girls and restrict them (getting them to cover up more, wear trousers under their skirts, bind their chests), and give them more work to do (no more babysitting for the boys!) to 'fix' the problem?

    Who the hell do these people think they're fooling? I've never seen such unrepentent fuck ups in my entire life. And their defenders? Don't get me started!

    This whole thing is an extreme exercise in minimization. It's disgusting to me. The thing is, everytime I think of this situation in regards to religious people especially, they only will admit to what they've been caught dead to rights on.

    Reminds me of Ted Haggard and the whole gay escort meth thing. He only admitted to it pieces at a time, and ONLY when there was proof that he did each separate thing. Same with Gothard (leader of the Duggar's cult) and Doug Phillips (a leader in the Duggar's cult). They only admit to what they have been caught out on.

    Reading the police report, it's obvious the kids were coached on what to say beforehand (like how they all said the abuse ONLY occurred at their previous residence, so as to keep the incidents beyond the statute of limitations), so I'm left here wondering what was the REAL extent of the problem? How much did Josh ACTUALLY do? What else did he (and is probably continuing to) get away with? Who else is doing what and letting their church handle it 'behind closed doors'?

    Lastly, JB claimed he's talked to lots of families who have the same problems....is this a THING? I grew up with 6 siblings in a repressive "Christian" (patriarchial) environment too, but none of my siblings ever molested each other, nor were we were aware of this 'common problem' among families

    If JB truly thinks this is a "common occurrence" then his family and all those others who he knows need to be investigated, cause that's messed up!

    Sorry this is so long and rambly, just some things I have been thinking.

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    ^^I agree that Jim Bob's story doesn't match the police report, and am pissed that he was not challenged.

    I am also furious that they are considering legal action against the police for releasing the report. It was available under the freedom of information act. The only legal action to be taken is against Ma and Pa Duggar for failing to protect their children, and the cops who failed to report it and take action.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Janus View Post

    Who the hell do these people think they're fooling? I've never seen such unrepentent fuck ups in my entire life. And their defenders? Don't get me started!
    You nailed it! "The Duggars: Unrepentant Fuck Ups" Someone needs to create a meme.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sluce View Post
    ^^I agree that Jim Bob's story doesn't match the police report and am pissed that he was not challenged.

    I also furious that they are considering legal actions against the police for releasing the report. It was available under the freedom of information act. The only legal action to be taken is against Ma and Pa Duggar for failing to protect their children, and the cops who failed to report it and take action.
    Fox news challenging them??

    What kind of parents let that happen to their kids 3 times?? (and that is what they are willing to admit maybe it happened way more.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebonnet View Post
    I'm a Christian and I feel the same way you do about it. I'm disgusted by people like that!!! Ewww. Thankfully, not all Christians are intolerant bullies or feel like "Oh, everyone is out to get us because we are Christians. Waaaa!!" Trust me. I know the kind of which you speak though and it's infuritating! Unlike the passive kumbayah christians, these bully christians feel superior because they claim to be Christians. They are intolerant, cold, hateful, super religious (and I don't mean truly spiritual...they are religious....there's a difference.)

    I encountered a situation at a church I had attended with some "christian" bullies. Hateful bitches, I tell ya! Yet they were at church everytime the door was open. Doing all this goody goody "volunteer" work, etc., not to truly help the needy, but to post it all over FB so they will "look good". Yet were sneaky, manipulative, vicious and no more "Christian" than this chair I'm sitting in. Hell, the chair I'm sitting in has more integrity than they do. YET, when I stopped hanging around them and unfriended/blocked them on FB, (because they were stalking my posts) they played the "victim" and told everyone that I'm being "unloving" and "think I'm better than they are". See what they did there? Twisted what the Bible says to fit their own agenda.

    Sadly, there are many "christians" who think it's all good and settled because they go to church. They need to open up their Bibles and read Matthew 7: 15-23 where Jesus said:

    "Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.By their fruit you will recognize them.... Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!"

    Jesus will be all like "BOOM!"

    Tulip, I'm glad that hateful bitch at your job got fired!!
    That is the perfect way to describe them -- Christian bullies. My most truly religious friend is also a Christian, and she walks the walk. She is loving, accepting (even if she doesn't personally agree with something) and is truly a good person. I know that not all Christians are like the ones that are nasty, discriminating bullies, but they sure are the loudest ones.
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    What continues to gall me is that their interview and all the statements they and associated family members have made cry "we aren't perfect! Everyone makes mistakes! Forgiveness!" But they want to legislate what goes on in another's bedroom, protest against a convenience store so it cannot get a beer license, insert whatever social issue with which they don't agree here, ad nauseam.
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    ^^^This. And the fact that their piddling little nasty nano brains can't tell the difference between forgiveness and no consequences. Aaaarrrrgh.
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    The amount of brain gymnastics that's being done here to justify Joshie's actions and trying to save the gravy train is making my head hurt. So what the Golden Child did is perfectly a-ok, but all transsexuals are automatically pedophiles? Fuck you assholes.
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    I just watched the interview on Youtube and barely managed to make it all the way through. I don't pretend to know what it must be like to have kids and I certainly don't know how bad it must feel when you learn one of your children has been sexually abusing his younger siblings but as a parent, it was their job to protect their children and they failed. If someone had broken into their house and started to touch one of their daughters up, they'd be calling for that person to get the death penalty and so would their little army of fans.

    It wouldn't shock me if there were even more skeletons in their fucked up closet either, it's definitely possible that there are more victims of Josh out there but they are just simply too afraid to speak out. It also wouldn't surprise me if Josh saw this behaviour from someone else in the household, when M and J found out what he was doing they were then stuck because if they took him to the Police straight away they ran the risk of him airing out even more dirty laundry which could bring down the Duggar name for good.

    Put it this way, how Jim described the abuse and played it down set off major alarm bells in my head with regards to him. Michelle just seemed to let him do all the talking and just popped up every now and then, ever the obedient wife that she is. I think TLC will still keep the Duggar franchise going but will focus more on the two daughters who are married with their own kids now, that's probably why they haven't announced anything yet as they're working on a different format and waiting for all this Josh stuff to die down. I hope it doesn't die down but I have this nagging feeling that this will all be forgotten about.
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    @WelshSquelch... As I read your post my stomach started to churn with horror. I hope so much you are wrong, but that theory has a terrible feel of 'truth' to it.

    As a Christian I've always avoided the Duggar show, because I recognize and despise the type - not for their lifestyle choices, but for the hypocrisy and hatefulness they have embraced. Their type has been around a long, long time. Jesus had a particularly laser-focus disgust for them. If they'd like to read about themselves, they can check out the first four books of the New Testament - just about anything He had to say about Pharisees and Sadducees should feel really familiar. Oddly, they were pretty much the only group of people He had on auto-blast. Even more strange? I'm pretty sure He forgot to warn us about transsexuals.
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    Where the hell is Josh? He's like 28 or something. Why can't he come and speak for himself in this matter? Their cult is all about patriarchy and how men are the leaders and strong and women are weak and have to be subservient, yet Josh is hiding behind his mum and sisters' skirts on this.

    The Duggar brand is forever done imho, if he wants any chance of any kind of non-menial employment for his future, he needs to come out and explain his damn self!

    Quote Originally Posted by WelshSquelch View Post
    I think TLC will still keep the Duggar franchise going but will focus more on the two daughters who are married with their own kids now, that's probably why they haven't announced anything yet as they're working on a different format and waiting for all this Josh stuff to die down. I hope it doesn't die down but I have this nagging feeling that this will all be forgotten about.
    I think they've waited to for the shitstorm to subside to see what can be salvaged. After the revelations and the interview with the parents and the daughters, I don't see how they can salvage anything.

    Why would they have a spinoff show with the 2 daughters? What's the twist there? One is married to a guy who works at Walmart and has 1 child. The other is married to an unemployed teenager who is under JB's thumb. Both girls are uncultured and uneducated and are 'homemakers'.

    What's the draw? What's so special about them?

    I think the only way they could resurrect this franchise is if the new show was called "19 kids in counselling" and was about the Duggar kids coming to terms with what pieces of crap their parents and Josh are. Of course that won't happen.



    EDIT: And Montel Williams! I'm so used to disliking him because he was such a promoter of that charlatan Sylvia Browne (ding dong the witch is dead!), but man he's been sayin' what we've all been thinkin' on his twitter and facebook over this. I'm torn because it kinda makes up for his Sylvia bullshit!

    Montel Williams ‏@Montel_Williams 2h2 hours ago So the sick and twisted thing is #DuggarInterview is ONLY about a new show. http://www.people.com/article/19-kids-counting-spin-off-tlc-jessa-seewald-jill-dillard-duggar-family …

    Montel Williams ‏@Montel_Williams 2h2 hours ago
    Ok now they are attacking @usweekly - um @BauerPublishing isn't PORN provider - this is all scripted. #DuggarInterview

    Montel Williams ‏@Montel_Williams 2h2 hours ago
    This is like watching Scientology defend itself. Of course these girls are victims #DuggarInterview

    Montel Williams ‏@Montel_Williams Jun 4
    REALITY - #Duggars are a BUSINESS and a brand, #DuggarInterview is ONLY about spinning off a new show... http://fb.me/2Vx3hzrAd


    and so on. His facebook is pretty cool too. Glad to see a lot of the Duggar supporters are shutting up or jumping ship completely!







    • Duggar Molestation Victims Accuse Tabloids of "Exploiting Women"




      In perhaps the most heated moment of their Fox News interview, the Duggar sisters slammed the magazine In Touch Weekly, which first obtained redacted police reports describing their molestation through a Freedom of Information Act request, and its parent company Bauer Media Group.
      Elder sister Jill Dillard told Megyn Kelly that the tabloids reporting the Duggars’ molestation story are “used to exploiting women.” Younger sister Jessa Seewald identified media behemoth Bauer as “a major porn provider.” (While that accusation was no doubt puzzling to some, a 2013 investigation by The Wrap indeed found that “at least nine German porn websites are easily traceable back to Bauer via online domain-ownership database.” The company is more popularly known for publishing magazines like Q, Life & Style Weekly, and J-14.)
      Jessa: You can’t FOIA a juvenile case. Everybody knows that. And so I think there’s probably some hokey pokey goin’ on there. I don’t know what the whole deal was.

      Jill: I know that the tabloids that released this, even have—they’re used to exploiting women.
      Jessa: Yeah well Bauer—they’re a major porn provider. And, so, just maybe their mindset—they’re used to making objects out of women, and maybe we just didn’t seem any different.

      Contact the author at taylor@gawker.com.


    http://gawker.com/duggar-molestation...iti-1709453002
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    These fuckers are done. Finito.

    The ONLY way there can ever be anything else with these people is if one of the kids totally breaks away from the rest of the fucked up family of abusers and enablers and completely denounces the religious cult and that whole way of life. And the least likely to do this are the three married adult children. I've got a feeling IF any of them actually have the gumption and integrity to break away (Jana, Jinger?), having a reality show about it would probably be the last thing they're looking to do. Hopefully, anyway.

    As bad as I feel for Jessa having been victimized, she needs to shut her annoying kool-aid drinker. If anyone is especially put-out at the gravy train coming to a screeching halt, it's her. She didn't get to have all her Jessa-centered episodes: Gender reveal, precious baby shower, special delivery, baptism, etc, etc. She in particular seemed to have taken to the increased fame/money/opportunity like a duck to water.
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    Where the hell is Josh?
    That is what I want to know as well.

    Fight your own battle, if all it was "was a mistake," rather than relying on your family to do it for you.

    IMO, when I saw the interview tonight p, thought, "You son of a bitch. You know you can't be prosecuted because the statute of limitations has run. And you are tucking tail and running, relying on your parents and sisters to justify what you did. How convenient that the family speaks for you when you are unwilling to speak for yourself."
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    So are all of these famewhore idiots trying to use this child molestation leak to get support, especially for the molested now adults? The "allegedly molested" as reported by "Liberal heathens" daughters both have shows pitched/upcoming about their boring lives. While saying Prince Joshie has been railroaded by these oppressive "laws" that say trying to finger your 5 year old sister is WRONG (who are we to JUDGE?!? Are we GAWD???) With Megyn Kelly and her offensive and embarassing Barbie hair clip on "weave", I don't really understand. The evil left/liberal media, are persecuting this poor loving RITEOUS family, who felt incest is best and female spawn are dropped out of Ma Duggar to satiate their perverted son(s?) and to push out spawns for potential future reality shows, apparently?
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    As far as the whole picture goes, no; I truly believe his victims don't get it, even though fundamentally they know it was a crime, based on their indoctrination by their parents. I don't think they are seeking support as much as they are trying to repair image amongst their peer group. I think TLC needs them more than they need that network.

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