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    Those who keep saying he was a "teen" and "made a mistake" are the Kumbayah christian enablers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twitchy2.0 View Post
    He hit puberty and was physically stronger than her.
    is it wrong that i'm hoping he beat the shit out of her?
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    Quote Originally Posted by sputnik View Post
    is it wrong that i'm hoping he beat the shit out of her?
    If it's wrong then that makes two of us. I had a case where a 14 yo would lure younger boys into the woods to play a "truth or false" type game. The boys would always lose and they'd have to show him their penis and touch his. He was found incompetent, sent to some boys home and released when he turned 18. Well he didn't change or "grow out of it" he continued his ways and molested more little boys, but I'm happy to say that since he is now an adult he's in a facility and no longer able to molest little boys, well until he's found competent again and released which I hope does not happen. This is a person that will not change his ways plus his family and he all look like they were in the movie Deliverance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bluebonnet View Post
    Those who keep saying he was a "teen" and "made a mistake" are the Kumbayah christian enablers.

    Vouch. A lot of them spout this too "judge not lest ye be judged" and some shit about casting the fist stone.No fuck you, that EXACTLY what should have happened to his ass. He should have gone before a jury of his peers TO be judged. So stupid. His father in laws blog and the responses are gag worthy! I'm a Christian and even I think these supporters are fucked in the head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SHELLEE View Post
    If it's wrong then that makes two of us. I had a case where a 14 yo would lure younger boys into the woods to play a "truth or false" type game. The boys would always lose and they'd have to show him their penis and touch his. He was found incompetent, sent to some boys home and released when he turned 18. Well he didn't change or "grow out of it" he continued his ways and molested more little boys, but I'm happy to say that since he is now an adult he's in a facility and no longer able to molest little boys, well until he's found competent again and released which I hope does not happen. This is a person that will not change his ways plus his family and he all look like they were in the movie Deliverance.
    If he was legally incompetent it's possible that he didn't even understand that what he was doing was wrong. And if the boys' home that he was sent to didn't have a comprehensive sex offender program then sending him there was the equivalent of him never going there in the first place. Of course, if he is incompetent then he might not have even been able to complete a program. What was his IQ? What did his psychosexual say? Did anyone even bother to test him to find out these things?

    If he's an adult and acts out like that again he would be ACT 21'd in my state (involuntary civil confinement, possibly for life).
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    He knew exactly what he was doing. He did the same thing each time he was out, I left some other incidences out previously. Hes in a program now and ironically i found out today that he's coming back for a status to check his competency. I believe our equivalent of the act 21'd is what we call the Jimmy Rice act and is an involuntary civil commitment program as well. He's not gotten that far yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by twitchy2.0 View Post
    I am not.
    She is not.

    And heads up, the article linked to and posted below is long, tl:dr, but I know GR's board policy is to post an article with citation in its entirety.

    The Pearls have been implicated in several child deaths as a result of their methods.

    Michael Pearl - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    They also, in addition to advocating taking a PVC pipe to your child, that you "blanket train" your babies. While you are in a room full of people, put your baby on a blanket. Often with only one or no toy. And when s/he gets curious enough to crawl off that blanket due to curiosity about activity around, hit the baby with a wooden spoon. To teach them to behave and be silent. Cause, you know, babies and toddlers aren't very curious about learning their environment that shapes them so let's just beat the curiosity out of them. The Pearls are (allegedly and in my opinion and all those disclaimers) awful for developing such destructive and inhumane methods.

    And Gothard? Before he was ousted, the single man who is neither an educator nor physician pushed teachings that indoctrinated his followers on how to be a wife (the husband as the "Head" never got the same attention), how to rear children, teach them, set up a midwifery program for birthing all those babies the Quiverfull sect wants to rear and push into politics to "take back the country" for their version of God, and advise followers on what to do re: medical conditions with their kids. Nutballs. No wonder people give me a side eye when faith comes up and I say I believe, with these folks being the face of the religion to which I subscribe.


    I could’ve been a Duggar wife: I grew up in the same church, and the abuse scandal doesn’t shock me - Salon.com

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    I could’ve been a Duggar wife: I grew up in the same church, and the abuse scandal doesn’t shock me
    Like a real-life Kimmy Schmidt, I fled the exploitative and abusive sect into a culture I couldn't fully understand
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    TOPICS: JOSH DUGGAR, THE DUGGARS, DUGGAR, TLC, 19 KIDS AND COUNTING, ATI, HOMESCOOL, SCANDAL, SEXUAL ABUSE, RAPE CULTURE, LIFE NEWS, ENTERTAINMENT NEWS




    Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar (Credit: Reuters/Chris Keane)
    Unlike most of the writers covering the Duggar sex scandal, I was raised in Advanced Training Institute (ATI), the fundamentalists Christian organization with which the family is affiliated. Joshua Duggar’s confession of sexually molesting young girls in his family’s home when he was a teenager didn’t surprise me, nor should it surprise anyone with any intimate knowledge about this organization, because ATI’s theological beliefs and practices cultivate an environment where women and children are more vulnerable to rape and sexual abuse. Ironically, the same theological beliefs and practices at the heart of this scandal are the same beliefs that created the Duggars as a media phenomenon, and drew viewers and fans to their TLC show “19 Kids and Counting.”




    Non-mainstream religious sects have certainly been enjoying a cultural moment on television: “The Following,” “Sister Wives,” “Breaking Amish.” Netflix’s dark comedy “The Unbreakable Kimmy Schmidt” explores the media hype around religious cult survivors in satirical detail. For me, though, that show should have come with a trigger warning, because in many ways, I am a real Kimmy Schmidt — a woman who spent her adolescence trapped inside a metaphorical bunker, and then was thrust into a world that she had never been prepared to be a part of.


    The Duggars didn’t emerge from a subterranean bunker, though. They’ve been on TV promoting the fundamentalist Christian theology of ATI since their first special in 2004 (“14 Children and Pregnant Again!”). ATI is a Christian homeschool organization that hosts seminars worldwide, provides homeschooling curriculum, and even runs its own paramilitary training center. At one point, it was strongly affiliated with a Christian correspondence course law school. Its members are not concentrated in one area, and yet they maintain insular groups and often form churches in which all members are affiliated with ATI and/or follow its basic principles. Referred to as “Gothardism” within fundamentalist Christian circles, the teachings of ATI form an ideological system of practices based on the extremely strict, fundamentalist, and idiosyncratic Biblical interpretations of the organization’s founder, Bill Gothard – a man who, in 2014, stepped down as head of ATI following allegations of sexual misconduct with young girls.


    The allegations against “Mr. Gothard” (as he is respectfully and worshipfully referred to by his acolytes) were an open secret among group members for many years. As a friend who worked at ATI headquarters once said to me with a wink: “The prettiest girls are always chosen to work the closest with Mr Gothard.”


    ATI’s teachings trickle down into every single part of its members’ lives. This is not just a homeschool curriculum, it is a fully institutionalized religious sect with incredibly strict demands to conformity — rules that, in my experience, more often reflect Gothard’s personal preferences than actual Biblical teachings. Have you ever wondered why every Duggar woman perms her hair? It’s because Gothard taught us that curly hair brings out a woman’s natural beauty. Other ATI beliefs that I learned range from utterly bizarre to downright barbaric, like the creator of Cabbage Patch Kid dolls is actually a Satanic wizard who implants demons into the dolls that then sneak into children’s bodies while they are sleeping — along with the old standard that rock music is inherently sinful. One boy from our church would walk around supermarkets with his fingers plugged into his ears to prevent himself from hearing it.


    And then there are the beliefs that are more central to the portrayal of ATI on TV through the Duggar family, which are also shared throughout the church’s teachings: the antiquated dress codes (especially for girls and women), the required homeschooling, the prohibition on birth control, the strictly gendered division of labor and the absolute and unquestioned authority of the father within the home.


    One key difference worth noting between the “reality” show of “19 Kids and Counting” and the actual reality of ATI, though, is the relative affluence of the Duggars compared to most ATI families. The Duggars live in a spacious Discovery Networks-funded home, but it was not unusual, in my church, for two parents and ten children to live packed into a singlewide trailer. These children usually wear threadbare hand-me-downs already passed through several rounds of siblings. Many of them look malnourished due to the abundance of starchy meals necessary on a lean one-parent income. Women and mothers working outside of the home is absolutely forbidden in ATI no matter what the financial situation of the family. Some women are even required to get permission from their husbands if they want to obtain a driver’s license.

    That affluence makes the constant growth of the Duggar family — their wildly exaggerated version of a large family upon which their TV fame is built — possible. The foundation of the Duggars’ fame is the fecundity of Michelle Duggar. Even the name of the show changes as she gives birth again and again and again. Each child is another notch on Jim Bob’s headboard, walking and talking proofs of his masculine virility. Despite this fascination with Michelle’s fertility, there is a critical question that no one ever seems to be ask on camera: just how fragile is the boundary between the loss of a woman’s reproductive control over her body and the loss of her sexual control over her body? From my experience in the ATI culture, it is very, very slim.


    A cornerstone belief of ATI is that God appoints husbands in an “umbrella of authority” over their wives, who are mandated by God to obey their husbands completely. That includes absolute sexual and reproductive submission. The inevitable result of such a demand is the tacit sanctioning of spousal rape — if a woman’s body belongs to God and to her husband before it belongs to her, then her consent becomes irrelevant.


    Women aren’t allowed ownership of their thoughts, either. At annual ATI conferences, married women are separated from everyone else and asked if they are having thoughts about using birth control, or if they feel resentment about having so many children. Answer “yes” to this and someone might tell you that those thoughts come from demons whispering into their ears. Many women in our church looked slumped over from constant exhaustion. My close friend’s mother even refused treatment for breast cancer because she saw the disease as God saving her from her abusive husband, and the burden of caring for her many children.


    Like any system of abuse, ATI relies on control to maintain its power, and a critical component of that power is the total indoctrination of its members through its homeschool curriculum. The so-called “Wisdom Booklets” that form the backbone of ATI children’s educations contain more Bible verses than they do information. Particularly lacking, in a religious sect so obsessed with reproduction, is any kind of sex education. This is especially true for young women, who receive very little sex education because the church teaches us that women do not have sex drives. However, the opposite is believed of men: ATI teaches that men have nearly uncontrollable sex drives ready to erupt at the mere sight of a pant leg or a perm. To illustrate this point: ATI families are encouraged to maintain a “no computer” rule for their sons, but not their daughters. Gothard also encouraged men to turn toward the wall when dining at restaurants so as not to be “tempted” by a waitress or a stray attractive woman.


    Not that our supposed lack of sex drive absolved us from sexual responsibility. ATI taught us that it is our job to keep men’s desires from erupting into lust or sexual activity. We were taught that it was our sin if we “cause a man to lust after us.” I spent many nights as an early-developed teenager crying and begging God to take away my large breasts, because I noticed men’s eyes had begun to linger on me during church. Modesty wasn’t only about dress, it was also about behavior. Women were taught from a very young age that they are to be submissive in all things: allowing men to open doors for us (even to get out of a car), never initiating conversation with a man and never correcting a man when he was wrong. Essentially, a good ATI woman is sweet, silent, and obedient.


    This combination of zero sexual knowledge and deeply-ingrained submissiveness left many young girls in our church especially vulnerable to sexual abuse. As a teenager, I became aware that several of my friends were being molested by their older brothers or fathers. They would start stilted conversations with me about it, but none of us actually understood the concept of sex or rape or molestation enough to actually discuss it, so it stayed on the level of furtively whispered hints.




    That affluence makes the constant growth of the Duggar family — their wildly exaggerated version of a large family upon which their TV fame is built — possible. The foundation of the Duggars’ fame is the fecundity of Michelle Duggar. Even the name of the show changes as she gives birth again and again and again. Each child is another notch on Jim Bob’s headboard, walking and talking proofs of his masculine virility. Despite this fascination with Michelle’s fertility, there is a critical question that no one ever seems to be ask on camera: just how fragile is the boundary between the loss of a woman’s reproductive control over her body and the loss of her sexual control over her body? From my experience in the ATI culture, it is very, very slim.


    A cornerstone belief of ATI is that God appoints husbands in an “umbrella of authority” over their wives, who are mandated by God to obey their husbands completely. That includes absolute sexual and reproductive submission. The inevitable result of such a demand is the tacit sanctioning of spousal rape — if a woman’s body belongs to God and to her husband before it belongs to her, then her consent becomes irrelevant.


    Women aren’t allowed ownership of their thoughts, either. At annual ATI conferences, married women are separated from everyone else and asked if they are having thoughts about using birth control, or if they feel resentment about having so many children. Answer “yes” to this and someone might tell you that those thoughts come from demons whispering into their ears. Many women in our church looked slumped over from constant exhaustion. My close friend’s mother even refused treatment for breast cancer because she saw the disease as God saving her from her abusive husband, and the burden of caring for her many children.


    Like any system of abuse, ATI relies on control to maintain its power, and a critical component of that power is the total indoctrination of its members through its homeschool curriculum. The so-called “Wisdom Booklets” that form the backbone of ATI children’s educations contain more Bible verses than they do information. Particularly lacking, in a religious sect so obsessed with reproduction, is any kind of sex education. This is especially true for young women, who receive very little sex education because the church teaches us that women do not have sex drives. However, the opposite is believed of men: ATI teaches that men have nearly uncontrollable sex drives ready to erupt at the mere sight of a pant leg or a perm. To illustrate this point: ATI families are encouraged to maintain a “no computer” rule for their sons, but not their daughters. Gothard also encouraged men to turn toward the wall when dining at restaurants so as not to be “tempted” by a waitress or a stray attractive woman.


    Not that our supposed lack of sex drive absolved us from sexual responsibility. ATI taught us that it is our job to keep men’s desires from erupting into lust or sexual activity. We were taught that it was our sin if we “cause a man to lust after us.” I spent many nights as an early-developed teenager crying and begging God to take away my large breasts, because I noticed men’s eyes had begun to linger on me during church. Modesty wasn’t only about dress, it was also about behavior. Women were taught from a very young age that they are to be submissive in all things: allowing men to open doors for us (even to get out of a car), never initiating conversation with a man and never correcting a man when he was wrong. Essentially, a good ATI woman is sweet, silent, and obedient.


    This combination of zero sexual knowledge and deeply-ingrained submissiveness left many young girls in our church especially vulnerable to sexual abuse. As a teenager, I became aware that several of my friends were being molested by their older brothers or fathers. They would start stilted conversations with me about it, but none of us actually understood the concept of sex or rape or molestation enough to actually discuss it, so it stayed on the level of furtively whispered hints.


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    That vulnerability to abuse increases through the isolation of homeschool. There are no teachers or school counselors for abused children to confide in, so for most of them, the abuse would continue for their entire adolescence. The only hope of escape for young women was through courtship and marriage to a man, who would attempt to immediately impregnate her and to whom she would then relinquish all sexual control.


    I didn’t become the victim of sexual exploitation until after I had left my home and the church. Growing up in such an isolated environment, I had only a vague idea of what the world beyond our church would be like. Fortunately, I was both brave enough and naďve enough to try and find out. Most of the people that I grew up with were never that lucky. I try, even now, to figure out how I could have abandoned everyone and everything I had ever known. The only thing that makes sense is this: I believed that there had to be something better than the life I had been raised to have. I believed that there had to be something better than courtship and marriage to a man my father (and “God”) selected for me, followed by a quiverfull of children of my own.


    I was both right and very, very wrong.


    After I left, I found myself suddenly thrust into a world that I was totally unprepared to navigate. Like Kimmy Schmidt fleeing from her bunker into the sunlight, I suddenly found myself surrounded by people and events that I had never been prepared for. It was nothing like the comically magical larger world that Kimmy Schmidt finds herself in. There were no handsome rich men, no forgiving landlords, no fabulous roommates, and certainly no sacks of cash. I entered a world full of things that I did not understand and a world full of people whose ill intentions I could not interpret or comprehend.


    The same sexual ignorance that had made my friends vulnerable while in the church haunted me after I left. The first time I had sex, I didn’t fully understand what was happening to me. When it was over, I noticed that I was bleeding, and I became convinced that God was going to kill me for my sin of causing lust in a man. I lay on the dirty floor of my cheap apartment’s bathroom begging for God’s forgiveness, begging to start over again, and begging for my family’s love, which I knew had now been forever forfeited by my sin. At that point, I had no frame of reference to understand that someone had taken sexual advantage of me, because the concept of date rape wasn’t part of ATI’s “Umbrella of Authority.”


    My decision to leave the church caused a permanent wedge between me and my family, who believe that I’m sinful for pursuing an education, for living with my boyfriend, and for everything that I’m proud that I’ve accomplished. Compared to most of the people that I grew up with, I usually think of myself as one of the lucky ones. But I lost 17 years of my life to ATI. And because I was homeschooled, I have to check the GED box on job applications. I feel immodest when I wear a tank top. I still get confused when someone mentions “the ninth grade,” “homecoming” or some movie that everyone my age grew up watching. I’ve spent years desperately trying to put it all behind me, and yet, I still feel like an outsider. I probably always will.


    The past week has been incredibly difficult, as I’ve seen my most personal trauma mocked and exploited in the media. I hope this latest religion and sex scandal teaches that religious extremism isn’t entertainment. It is abuse. It is abuse when it is used to manipulate, control and victimize those who are rendered helpless within its confines. We should examine how we allow the most vulnerable members of our society to become prey for power-hungry religious leaders and sexual predators. Yes, the family is to blame. Yes, ATI is to blame. But so are we, for spending the past decade pointing and laughing along.


    Brooke Arnold is a writer and a stand-up comic who lives in New York. She is currently writing a comic memoir called "Growing Up Fundie" about her experience growing up in a fundamentalist Christian church. You can find out more about this book and her other projects on her website.
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    I could really use a cliffs notes right about now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHELLEE View Post
    I could really use a cliffs notes right about now.
    Gothard, the ATI, the IBLP, he created and fronted in the 70s that most of the independent fundamentalist baptists adhere to (and many flocked to after those crazy hippie years -- the reason he started his teachings in the first place, to rein in immorality), all of that (in my opinion, allegedly, and all those disclaimers) is vile.

    -They want their version of God to be adhered to by all and you're wrong if you don't believe the way they do.
    -There is a grass roots movement amongst these folks to "raise an army for God" and "take back the country." That's why they Re so politically involved. Two books that are great reads about how the Christian Right is attempting to infiltrate politics are "Republican Gomorrah" and "God's Harvard," about Patrick Henry College.
    -"Quiverfull: I side the Christian Patriarchy Movement" by Kathryn Joyce also has some 411 about the movement.
    -Women are not allowed to work, defer every decision to the head of household, cannot teach religion classes/studies, can't wear pants or bathing suits or cut their hair, there is a subsect of "stay-at-home daughters" as they call themselves, who remain at home until "the head gives my hand to my new head if my family," homeschooling with approved curriculum is the bomb and the world is worldly and wrong.
    -Everyone else who does not hold the same beliefs is wrong and probably on the way to eternal damnation.
    -And more.

    The Cliff Notes of the Cliff Notes? Destructive, ill-founded, destructive, lacking reason, destructive, Judgey McJudgerson, destructive, everyone should stay away destructive.
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    Does anyone expect the show to continue after maybe a break with Josh and his family out of the picture? I don't see how they could do the show with him or at least his wife and kids visiting. And what about that spin off with Jill and Jessa? How could they actually do a spin off and not have their parents and siblings sometimes making cameos?
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    TLC is operating with its head up its ass with the spin-off show discussion.
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    for some reason this article won't post, it just leads me to the main page every time, so i'll just post the link:

    Semen Causes Cancer: Bad Science from the Duggars' Homeschool Cult
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    ^Thanks for the link to gawker! I just found this article:
    The Web Has Known About Josh Duggar for Years. When Did TLC Find Out?

    Look they even mention the "Duggar specialized" message board FreeJinger.org. It's actually good work that they are doing on their board - giving people a place to express their critical opinion about the Duggars and other fundamentalists. And their preservation of a comment by someone called Alice from 2007 with allegations about Josh. I guess freeJinger and other well-informed observers of the Duggars are quite useful.
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    I'm srsly considering joining the freejinger.org message board! It's hilarious!
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    Quote Originally Posted by stef View Post
    for some reason this article won't post, it just leads me to the main page every time, so i'll just post the link:

    Semen Causes Cancer: Bad Science from the Duggars' Homeschool Cult
    But only unmarried semen.
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