October 16th, 2009, 11:07 PM
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Earlier today, Angelina Jolie was spotted looking very professional in Los Angeles, heading into Sony Studios ( photos here). She totally flew in under the radar, per usual, because pretty much everyone thought she and the whole family were still in France. It’s thought that she was attending a meeting about signing on for the lead role in The Tourist, the gun-toting, ass-kicking suspense/action film she’s been considering for about a week. Looks like Brad’s film Moneyball is probably never going to get made, The Tourist will probably begin filming in a few months, and it will likely be a location shoot in Europe. Perhaps a European Christmas for the Jolie-Pitt clan?
Beyond that, Brangelina’s tabloid drama has taken a backseat to Gosselin, Lohan and TomKat drama this week. There are only a couple of Brangelina stories in this week’s magazine, and both of them feel like stale leftovers. Star’s story is all about how the Jolie-Pitt kids are running amok because Brad and Angelina “don’t feel like spending time yelling at them”. My guess? The Jolie-Pitt kids are little hellions with strong personalities, but I’d bet they’re basically good kids. Empress Zahara runs a tight ship, after all: The kids do as they please, according to sources. “They have dinner around 11 p.m. And it’s a real smorgasbord of snacks - cheese and crackers, chips, grapes and chocolate.” Not only is there no set bedtime, but there is no rule on what to wear to sleep - or even where they lay their heads. “They all sleep in Brad and Angie’s bed. And the kids wear whatever they want. Sometimes Zahara falls asleep in her Sleeping Beauty dress, which has permanent chocolate milk stains on it.” The wildest of the clan are Maddox and Pax. “The two of them are double trouble. They have every sort of toy known to man, including paint guns, which they splatter all over the walls of the house.” Maddox tends to get special treatment. In fact, it was his idea to pierce baby sister’s Vivienne’s ears. After he said he wanted to do it himself with a pin, an insider says Angie decided to have it done professionally. “Brad is starting to get tougher… he does tell them ‘no’ and holds them accountable for their actions. The trouble is they just run to Mom, and she caves. Growing up, Angie often worked to help support her single mother and, “She doesn’t want her kids to have that kind of life… she gives them their freedom because she wants their ‘souls to evolve.’” [From Star Magazine, print edition, October 26 2009]
My experience with kids is very limited, granted, but some of this stuff sounds like normal “kids need structure” stuff. Don’t ask me, though. I’m the OCD structure queen, and when I was a babysitter, the kids were always good for me. Because I set the rules, damn it. Although I did used to babysit for a kid with night terrors who used wake up screaming thirty minutes after I put him to bed. I never really considered him a bad kid, just a kid with issues.
In addition to those stories, Star also reports that the kids gang up to terrorize their nanny, using methods that I swear came from The Sound of Music. “Raindrops on roses and whiskers on kittens/Bright copper kettles and warm woolen mittens/Brown paper packages tied up with strings/ These are a few of my favorite things!” Hmm… I need to see that movie again. Other than that, I only liked the part about Empress Z falling asleep in her Sleeping Beauty dress. How cute is that?
Meanwhile, the other Brangelina story comes from the National Enquirer, and it involves the Bermuda Triangle, white wine and a phone. Only this time, Jennifer Aniston was the one doing the alleged drunk dialing. Their source claims that Jennifer “was hoping for an intimate chat with Brad, and ended up tangling with Hurricane Angelina! When Jen heard Angie’s voice, she freaked out.” Oh, yes. But the source also knows what the two women said to each other: “Jen basically told Angie that she hated her, but Angelina fired back and warned Jen to stop calling Brad and harassing her. Angie screamed, ‘Leave my family alone!’ and ended the call.” After the call, Angelina allegedly read Brad the riot act, and demanded that he cut off contact with Jennifer for good. The Enquirer leaves us with this note: “It remains to be seen if Jen will let go of him or continue to give chase.” Ugh. Seriously? That’s all I’ve got. Just a big, fat “Seriously?!?”
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October 17th, 2009, 10:15 AM
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Why did Angie have to work to support her mother? Her dad was an A-list movie star. I find it hard to believe that they were so broke the kids had to support the family, even if the parents were divorced. He would have been obligated to make pretty significant child support payments.
Honestly, I've always thought Angelina's mom kind of poisoned those kids against Jon Voigt and made him out to be some kind of monster to alienate him from his kids, just like Angie's doing now with her own kids. And you can TELL her kids are obnoxious and spoiled. Every story involving the kids in public, and every "behind the scenes" expose says something about how the kids run the show in that household.
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October 17th, 2009, 10:51 AM
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Oh hells no, they don't have structure on what to wear to bed AND where to lay their heads? Future serial killers, the lot of them.
Belle, I'm pretty sure Voight left them pretty early on and I would guess it was before state mandatory child supprt (all very loosey goosey before the late 80's/early 90's). Wasn't AJ's mom a flower child? She probably would have thought it wrong to go after him for money, mess with her karma.
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October 17th, 2009, 10:53 AM
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I can believe they do not have any structure. It just seems so intuitively.
While I agree too much structure can stifle a child, children crave routine and learn the basics by simple repetition. These kids will probably be all over the place emotionally when they grow up, lacking in focus and self-discipline.
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October 17th, 2009, 11:02 AM
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This story is so bs, and it's tired.
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October 17th, 2009, 11:56 AM
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Someone call child protective services!
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October 17th, 2009, 12:09 PM
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It wouldn't surprise me. It seems that she wants to have kids, not actually parent them.
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October 17th, 2009, 12:39 PM
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Angelina makes her mom out to be this angel, but I doubt it. She changed her name to a French name and tried to convince people she was French. First off she was born and raised in the states and her mom was French-Canadian, big difference. So Angelina is just a big fat snobby classicist who obviously thinks "parenting" is below her.
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October 17th, 2009, 12:59 PM
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Why did Angie have to work to support her mother? Her dad was an A-list movie star. I find it hard to believe that they were so broke the kids had to support the family, even if the parents were divorced. He would have been obligated to make pretty significant child support payments.
Honestly, I've always thought Angelina's mom kind of poisoned those kids against Jon Voigt and made him out to be some kind of monster to alienate him from his kids after they split up, just like Angie's doing now with her own kids. And you can TELL her kids are obnoxious and spoiled. Every story involving the kids in public, and every "behind the scenes" expose says something about how the kids run the show in that household.
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That's what I figure, too. If money was so tight in AJ's mom's house, why didn't she work? The day she got pregnant, she stopped working. Not that Crazy Voight didn't owe something to the household, but Marcie could have contributed rather than demonize her ex.
AJ was 14 when her boyfriend moved into her house with mom's blessing. She wasn't exposed to good parenting. Her parents sucked.
I have no problem believing the Pitt-Jolie home is a chaotic zoo - no limits and no direction.
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October 17th, 2009, 02:00 PM
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Angelina makes her mom out to be this angel, but I doubt it. She changed her name to a French name and tried to convince people she was French. First off she was born and raised in the states and her mom was French-Canadian, big difference. So Angelina is just a big fat snobby classicist who obviously thinks "parenting" is below her.
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Yeah, AJ has praised her mother for allowing her to live with her boyfriend at age 14 & not realizing her daughter was self-destructive and self-harming.
I don't think AJ is sane (how could she be with her childhood), so I believe that her children have no structure. You can tell just by looking at her children while they are out and about - they always look like disheveled hot messes. She seems to have these grand ideals about parenting, but somehow, I think her children are going to end up resenting her for never allowing them to have a stable home base where they can make friends, etc.
And completely off topic: I can't believe AJ in an action film opposite Sam Worthington. She looks as if she weights 100 pounds and looks old enough to be his mother!
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October 17th, 2009, 02:02 PM
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So, tabloid reporters and informants watch them sleep?
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October 17th, 2009, 02:18 PM
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So, tabloid reporters and informants watch them sleep?
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Probably. Informants in stories like these are often nannies, family members and friends, friends of nannies. A lot more of the information is accurate than people suspect.
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October 17th, 2009, 02:43 PM
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Probably. Informants in stories like these are often nannies, family members and friends, friends of nannies. A lot more of the information is accurate than people suspect.
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I think you can just surmise the state of that household by looking at those kids. Dirty, missing teeth, stuffing junk food in their mouths, surly, tangled hair, never walking calmly with their parents but always a restraining adult hand grabbing their arms or clothing.
Six kids is not a game.
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October 17th, 2009, 02:46 PM
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she gives them their freedom because she wants their ‘souls to evolve.’
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WTF does this pretentious statement mean??
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October 17th, 2009, 02:54 PM
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Yeah, AJ has praised her mother for allowing her to live with her boyfriend at age 14 & not realizing her daughter was self-destructive and self-harming.
I don't think AJ is sane (how could she be with her childhood), so I believe that her children have no structure. You can tell just by looking at her children while they are out and about - they always look like disheveled hot messes. She seems to have these grand ideals about parenting, but somehow, I think her children are going to end up resenting her for never allowing them to have a stable home base where they can make friends, etc.
And completely off topic: I can't believe AJ in an action film opposite Sam Worthington. She looks as if she weights 100 pounds and looks old enough to be his mother!
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I know kids can adapt and are incredibly resilient, but this sort of long term effect is exactly what I'd worry about. It depends on the personality and preferences of the kid, but I think having that kind of stability is very important for most kids. I hated moving around so often as a kid--I still do--and think that definitely affected my development, not always in a positive way.
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