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    Default Charlie Sheen's preemie son now home with twin & Mom

    Update: Charlie Sheen Denies Son Has Heart Problems

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    Charlie Sheen is denying that his newborn son Max is suffering from a heart condition.

    Charlie's rep issued a statement on Thursday afternoon explaining, "Charlie and Brooke's infant son remains in the hospital, not because of a heart condition as reported, but because he has not gained the weight necessary to leave hospital. Max is expected to reach the weight requirement shortly and will join his brother [Bob] at home."

    Adding that "both Bob and Max are fine," the spokesperson also delivered a message from Charlie saying, "The weight issue is very common among infants who were born before reaching full term. I know a lot of people are not fond of hospital food. I just didn't realize they that started so young."

    The twins were born on March 14 to Charlie's wife of almost one year Brooke Mueller. Charlie recently said becoming a dad again was "pretty amazing."

    Charlie Sheen's Baby Home from Hospital

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    Charlie Sheen's new babies are now both under one roof. Three weeks after Max Sheen was born, he's gone home with his parents Charlie and Brooke Mueller Sheen and twin brother Bob. In fact, a rep for Charlie said the wee one was sent home several days ago.
    Earlier this month Charlie denied that the newborn born March 14 suffered from a heart condition, saying he remained in the hospital because he was a preemie and hadn't gained the weight necessary to leave hospital.
    Max and Bob are the first kids for Charlie and Brooke. He also has daughters, Sam, 4, and Lola, 3, with ex-wife Denise Richards, and another, 24-year-old Cassandra, from a previous relationship.



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    n.b. I removed the bit about her having to take fertility drugs because they did sperm washing as it was a no brainer.... How else was she supposed to get pregnant if they used this method to get a boy? Duh?

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    That's odd if they used Sperm Washing. From what I've read it's typically used when the sperm donor is infected with HIV/AIDS. Since the seminal fluid and not the sperm carry HIV/AIDS it allows for a pregnancy without exposing the mother to the disease or conceiving a positive child (there is still a risk no matter what). Hmmmmmmmmmm

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    Nope, its quite common when using IVF to get a specific gender - one of its other uses (I was lead to believe that one of its first uses was to gender-select children due to genetic issues that only pass down the male/female lines).

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    Glad to see he's doing better and at home with his parents.
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    Bob is a funny name for a baby. Is he actually named Robert and they are calling him Bob for short? I think Bobby is better suited for a baby.

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    glad the baby is home and doing better.
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    I believe he wanted to get faaarr away from silly Hollywood names and went with Bob and Max, not Robert & Maxwell. They will grow into their names.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Novice View Post
    Nope, its quite common when using IVF to get a specific gender - one of its other uses (I was lead to believe that one of its first uses was to gender-select children due to genetic issues that only pass down the male/female lines).
    Can you point me to some links/articles on that use? I know it's part of the IUI treatment, but as a way to remove white blood cells, dead sperm and other bits that are non-motile sperm. It allows for a more concentrated "dose" to be used. Not trying to be a smart-a**, I've just never heard of that method being used with any reliability in regards to gender selection. I have read about sperm-sorting to pick a gender by using a dye to mark the chromosomes, with the X being larger and absorbing more dye than the Y. But that method doesn't always produce the desired gender.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 75Sasha View Post
    Can you point me to some links/articles on that use? I know it's part of the IUI treatment, but as a way to remove white blood cells, dead sperm and other bits that are non-motile sperm. It allows for a more concentrated "dose" to be used. Not trying to be a smart-a**, I've just never heard of that method being used with any reliability in regards to gender selection. I have read about sperm-sorting to pick a gender by using a dye to mark the chromosomes, with the X being larger and absorbing more dye than the Y. But that method doesn't always produce the desired gender.
    It was something that I discussed with my own fertility consultant. I'm sure that google will provide you with a lot of references. Its not like its "new" technology.
    here is just one example of many
    High-Tech Babies
    Like from a sci-fi adventure, gender selection has become the high-tech option of the 21st century, offering control to the body's processes that only nature regulates before the arrival of new technologies. The evolving or the reproductive science revolutionized human conception since the last quarter of the 20th century making it possible to choose your baby's sex.
    Natural methods can improve the odds of a woman wanting to get pregnant, but technology can boost their expectations up to 90% conceiving a female baby or male baby. However, it is not as easy as it sounds. If you are considering a high-tech gender selection method, consider the financial and psychological stress this option carries for you and your family.
    The major methods of gender selection are more likely accurate, but also expensive. Reproductive endocrinologists (REs) or fertility specialists may perform a sperm sorting method at their clinics involving insemination and laboratory costs, not always viable if your budget is small.
    However, there are many methods of sperm sorting, including a simple cheap technique involving the washing of sperm, tagging of the X and Y chromosomes that determine the child's sex, and timing the later insemination according to the parent's desired sex. When we say "cheap", we are talking about $600 on average with 65% odds of conceiving a female baby and 60% odds of conceiving a male.
    Dr. Ronald Ericsson is a pioneer on gender selection, who developed and patented their own sex selection method in the early 80s: the Ericsson Albumin Method with a success rate of 73% to 75% for female offspring and 78% to 85% for male. Selecting any of these gender selection methods depends on you and on your budget to get the technology at your service.
    And yes, you're correct in that it doesn't always produce the desired gender (as stated in the % results), however there is a better chance of it than "letting nature take it course".

    Oh - also, it doesn't have to be part of the IUI/IVF cycle, it just depends on the sperm itself.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Novice View Post
    It was something that I discussed with my own fertility consultant. I'm sure that google will provide you with a lot of references. Its not like its "new" technology.
    here is just one example of many
    And yes, you're correct in that it doesn't always produce the desired gender (as stated in the % results), however there is a better chance of it than "letting nature take it course".

    Oh - also, it doesn't have to be part of the IUI/IVF cycle, it just depends on the sperm itself.


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    It is used as part of the dye tagging that I mentioned, but the way I read your comment was that the washing is solely used to select gender. Sperm Washing is simply a basic lab procedure to separate the living sperm from everything else in the seminal fluid. And the studies I've read regarding the Ericsson Method show that the method changes the ratio of X:Y by a minor amount (1% range). Adding Clomid to the equation has been able to slightly increase the odds of a female.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9...?dopt=Abstract

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9...?dopt=Abstract

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9...?dopt=Abstract

    The numbers you quote have come either from Ericsson's clinic or studies he has run/been an author on. I can't see any independent confirmation of his method in regards to sorting the actual sperm for X or Y (which is what he claims). There was a study that showed a 80% success rate of conceiving a male, however they only reported on 18 of the 30 pregnancies. There were 4 miscarriages and 2 eptopics, of which the genders were not noted/tested and 6 pregnancies that were not reported on at all.

    http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9...?dopt=Abstract

    http://www.nytimes.com/1985/05/30/ga...pagewanted=all

    Clinics using his method have been investigated in the UK for giving false success rates.

    BBC Inside Out - Choosing the sex of your baby

    There is a theory that Ericsson works by somehow deactivating or damaging the X carrying sperm, so the ratio of sperm stays the same, but the Y carrying ones are far more likely to implant. This is not how Ericsson states his method works. If so this would make this gender selection method valid only for males, and he's quoted as saying it works for both genders. There is one study that Ericsson is not part of that show success for females, however one of the authors is Dr Scott Ericsson, who works with Dr (Robert) Ericsson. And going by the spelling of the last names I wouldn't be surprised if they are relatives.

    http://humrep.oxfordjournals.org/cgi...full/17/5/1254

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    Anyway... hopefully these two little boys will continue to make good progress.

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    75sasha, it's not my understanding that sperm washing is primarily used for anything but separating viable sperm from the other stuff. as you pointed out, it isn't reliable for gender selection. people who want a specific sex and are willing to shell out the $$$ go for pgd.

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    ^^^ you might want to take that up with Charlie Sheen then since its the term he specifically used; plus my (ex) consultant as it was used as a 'catch all' for the processes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by czb View Post
    75sasha, it's not my understanding that sperm washing is primarily used for anything but separating viable sperm from the other stuff. as you pointed out, it isn't reliable for gender selection. people who want a specific sex and are willing to shell out the $$$ go for pgd.
    That's what caught my eye. It's a first step, but there are many different ways to go after; Ericsson, Percoll, Swim Up, Dye Staining etc. It's like saying the doctor cut open your stomach. The next question is: then what did the doctor do?

    The only instance I know that washing is used alone is to help avoid transmission of disease(s) that can be transmitted through seminal fluid, typically HIV/AIDS. Hep C is another one that can be reduced (nothing is guaranteed to eliminate any diseases).

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