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Old August 10th, 2006, 05:50 AM   #166 (permalink)
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What's the rumor regarding Annette and Warren? What's the age gap between them and are they supposedly happily married? Are there photographs of any of their children? I've never seen them.
Go a few pages back in this thread. There's two pix of the entire family, and a few pix of Warren with his son and of the two of them with their eldest daughter. I'm not aware of any rumors regarding Warren and Annette, but I'm sure anybody who'd want to imply something can do so, much more easily these days with the internet etc. Unfortunately his kids, perhaps with exception of the eldest Kathlyn, are as fug as his wife is.
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Have you seen this?

http://www.warrenandjulieforever.bra...com/index.html
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Old August 11th, 2006, 03:12 AM   #168 (permalink)
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Yep, I know it. The idea is nice, but the research lousy.
Sooooo many mistakes, so many myths presented as facts. Whomever did
this website (lousy lay-out, too) for instance has one major fact wrong:
the length of their romantic involvement, as well as the years in which they
were together.
About eight years, roughly between early 1967 and late 1974/early 1975.
Their relationship withered during the filming of "Shampoo" in 1974, but
officially lasted until 1975.
Simple fact: Warren wanted a family, Julie was dead set against it. A quote
of her: "I don't want to give ten years of my life away to a child. Of course,
I can imagine once you have a child, that's it. You're in love and it's
marvelous. It's just not me."
What's funny is that she later put her career on hold to help with international
social causes that often involved underprivileged children.
So, in a way she DID spend about ten years of her life on children, just
not her own.

Warren found his (as he thought, their) dream home in the spring of 1974,
during filming of "Shampoo". They went to view it together, but she got
very nervous from the fact that he saw it as a family house.
She ended their relationship by phone in the fall of 1974, although they did
occassionally get back together for brief instances in 1975, before calling it
quits for good.

Beatty found solace with Michelle Philips of "The Mamas and Papas", and
a dress-rehearsal for fatherhood, joining her in looking after her daughter Chyna.
He and the little girl adored each other and he really lost himself in
the "father" role for a while. But he and Michelle were not compatible, so
that didn't last more than about 2 years.

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"She is my superior half. I now seperate my life into two sections, before Julie and with Julie."
Is actually a quote Warren made about his WIFE Annette Bening, and not
about Julie. The first two quotes supposedly of Warren on the quotes page
are myth and surfaced during the years that he did NOT speak to the press.
The quote including the nude ride on a camel was from an interview about
Ishtar, as a reply to why he wasn't fond of doing movie promotion. True to
his opinion, he said that movies should speak for themselves and - in
reference to the blind camel in Ishtar - he then said that he felt promoting a
movie beforehand was "spoiling" it for the public, therefore instead of doing
movie promotion he'd rather ride a camel...... etc.
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Old August 24th, 2006, 03:51 AM   #169 (permalink)
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Yep, another round of Mr. Gorgeous, mostly in his prime


^1974/1975 during the shooting of and promotion for "Shampoo".
Mmm, what a bod! (On his shoulder is Carrie Fisher, who
made her debut in the movie).


^1974 Stills from the wonderful Pakula movie "The Parallax View".
Beatty did the fight scene in the bar himself, except for the
two falls through the glass! In the second photo you can also
see William Daniels of "St. Elsewhere", "Boy meets world" and
of course "The Graduate" (in which he played Dustin Hoffman's
father) fame.


^Gorgeous circa 1976 at 39


^1977/1978 "Heaven Can Wait" stills.


^Undated photo (I think early 1980's) with good friend,
a very young, Sean Penn. And in 1980 in profile for "Reds" with
then girlfriend Diane Keaton.

^1987 promoting "Ishtar" with good friend Dustin Hoffman and
then girlfriend Isabelle Adjani.
And in 1990 presenting an award at the oscars with
good friend Jack Nicholson.
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He's got legs...

Didn't he have a non famous lover who wrote a book about her famous conquests?
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He's got legs...
LOL, come on, GF, surely you remember those looooong, lean "where the heck do I stick them?" legs of the man?








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Didn't he have a non famous lover who wrote a book about her famous conquests?
? I have no idea. Could be. But keep in mind what Warren always says about women claiming to have had a thing with him.... (see my signature)......
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Hey Chatteaux,

Glad to see another person who understands and appreciates the insanely hilarious, self depreciating humor and - really - political and social commentary of Ishtar. I doubt it, though, that you could possibly love this fantastic movie more than me It's one of my all time faves.

For those of youse who only know from hearsay about Ishtar, that it's one of the worst movies ever made..... impossible, certainly if you've seen any movie starring the likes of Mariah Carey, J.Lo, Madonna, David Hasselhoff (hehe), Pauly Short. The reason why this movie, after leading the box office for two weeks, bombed was none other than a political game playing at the top of the studio that distributed it. There was a change in management, and the new boss had a personal issue with the movie's director Elaine May, stemming from years earlier and also had inherited a studio that needed to be streamlined. Ishtar, made by one of his least favorite people, was the perfect scapegoat, and all promotion was cut from the budget to set a new - financial/budget - standard for all productions to follow. Granted, May had gone overboard with her budget, but this movie was axed from within the studio that produced it. Favorable critiques in the first two weeks soon turned around and before the participants knew it, the movie was pulled and written off as one of Hollywood's greatest failures, with media soon parroting each other's "opinion", even of those who hadn't even seen it.

Ishtar is a fantastic, hilariously funny movie about two completely untalented "songwriters" and "Simon & Garfunkel" wannabes, Lyle Rogers (Warren Beatty) and Chuck Clarke (Dustin Hoffman). Lyle is a borderline retarded, insecure, sweetheart of a big lug of a guy, married to his highschool sweetheart since they were 17, who moved to the big city so his career as a songwriter could take off. Until that happens, he's selling icecream. During one of his routes he comes up with this beauty:
"Hot fudge love, cherry rippled kisses,
lip smacking, back slapping, perfectly delicious...."
All sung in that wonderful kid's voice of his

Chuck Clarke is as big a loser as Lyle is, only he believes he's an underestimated and under-appreciated musical genius. He has a "living apart" relationship with a girlfriend he sees once a week, and he writes great songs for golden wedding anniversaries about old lovers, soon about to die and "leaving their love in their will" to the remaining partner.

They meet and click and soon are off on a whirlwind of inspiration, coming up with fantastic songs like:

Telling the truth can be dangerous business.
Honest and popular don't go hand in hand.
If you admit that you can play the accordeon,
No one'll hire you in a rock 'n' roll band.

But we can siiinnnngggggg - our hearts out (all night)
And if we're lucky, then no neighbors complain.
Nobody knows where the beginning part starts out (sing all right)
But being human we can live with the pain.

Because life is the way we audition for God;
Let us pray that we all get the job.

Cryin' out loud gets you pointed and laughed at
Be like a baby. Only babies should cry!
Somebody tell me how that rumor got started.
Some things I know that only God knows why.

But we can siiinnnngggggg - our hearts out (all night)
And if we're lucky, then no neighbors complain.
No body knows where the beginning part starts out (sing all right)
But being human we can live with the pain


Of course the creative process is quite long and hard to come to such a fantastic end result:

Discarded lyrics for Dangerous Business:

Telling the truth can be bad news
good news
bad idea
difficult problem
scary predicament
bitter herb
dangerous tunnel
dangerous business
why? because
if yourself
you don't know
if you don't know yourself then you don't know why


But I digress.
They get an agent and go to a talent show. After seeing them he tells them they have no act, no hook. They decide to make their "show" flashier, resulting in a hilarious version of "Little Darlin'" with the guys adding "dance" to their "show". But, the agent is right, the only place where anyone will ever be crazy enough to book them is abroad, either Honduras or Ishtar, a tiny country near Morocco. Since both their sweethearts have left them, because of their impossible dreams to make it big in showbiz, Chuck decides they should go on tour in Ishtar, because it's safer What they don't know is that Ishtar is in the middle of a political uproar, the rebels are about to commit a coup against the Emir. From the first step they set on Ishtar soil, Chuck and Lyle are, unwittingly, right in the middle of political intrigue, even making the CIA keeping their eye on them. Through it all they remain blissfully unaware, idiots that they are.
It truly is an unbelievably funny movie for reasons like the hilarious lyrics, Warren's kiddie singing and speaking voice and outrageous dance moves, Dustin being the "hot, self assured, ladies man (in his own mind)" and Warren being the shy, unexperienced, near retarded farmboy.

One of my all time favorite scenes is the "schmuck" scene:

Lyle Rogers: What a smuck I was...
Chuck Clarke: Schmuck! It's not smuck. Schmuck!
Lyle Rogers: Smuck!
Chuck Clarke: [loud] Schmuck!
Lyle Rogers: Sssssssssmuck!
Chuck Clarke: Say "ssshhhh"
Lyle Rogers: Ssshhhhhh.
Chuck Clarke: Now say "muck".
Lyle Rogers: [soft] Muck.
Chuck Clarke: Now say "ssshhh" and "muck" together real fast.
Lyle Rogers: Smuck!
Chuck Clarke: ...Closer.
Lyle Rogers: You really know the lingo.

I watch my DVD regulary, only wish it would have outtakes. I know Dustin and Warren had a hilarious time making it and it secured their deep friendship that lasts to this day! All clickable images! Warren was 50 and Dustin 49 when they shot the movie. Co-starring Isabelle Adjani (then Beatty's girlfriend) and Charles Grodin, funny as ever!










Courtesy of Jef of the wonderful "Ishtar The Movie" website, I got the Smuck/Schmuck scene, Chalet!!!!!
Enjoy (and everybody else, too! )
http://s98.photobucket.com/albums/l2...ar-Smuck_a.flv



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Just bought Ishtar.

Mr and Mrs B looking very fetching on tonight's Emmy Awards. I think they are there for her performance in Mrs. Harris.
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Just bought Ishtar.

You did? Great! Did you get it for a good price?

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Mr and Mrs B looking very fetching on tonight's Emmy Awards. I think they are there for her performance in Mrs. Harris.
Yeah, probably. She always gets great reviews, but often doesn't win the awards Did he look as old as in the pix? Despite all his loose skin, wrinkles, grey hair and receding hairline, he's always got those little boy eyes with that sweet twinkle. As long as he keeps that, I guess he's fine.
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Warren and Annette through the years

They met in 1991 during auditions for the part of Virginia Hill in "Bugsy". Many
actresses had been interviewed already, and although Beatty already had a
crush on her from afar after having seen her in several movies, he purposely
did not mention her as a candidate until the schedule to start shooting the
movie became very tight. She had to read like all the other actresses before
her. Director Barry Levinson saw the chemistry and of course Annette got
the part.
Levinson, the rest of the cast and crew had no idea that a serious
relationship was developing between the two lead actors.
Daughter Kathlyn was born in January 1992 and two months later Warren
(a few weeks before his 55th birthday) and Annette (2 months before her
34th birthday) were married.
They have 4 kids in total: son Benjamin (1994) and 2 more daughters Isabelle (1997)
and Ella Corinne (2000), all are named after Warren's parents.


^It all began during the filming of "Bugsy" in 1991.


^1993 Happy first time parents, crazy in love.


^1994 Posing blissfully for "Vanity Fair' and red carpet in 1996.


^1998 Happy at the "Bulworth" premiere, 1999 cuddling at home and at
the 1999 Oscars.


^A very pregnant Annette at the 2000 Golden Globes, cuddling at the 2002
Oscar after party and later that year celebrating Norman Mailer's birthday.


^2004 A giddy and smitten Annette with Warren at the Toronto opening
of "Being Julia".


^2004, Warren received the Kennedy Honors. First time Annette and Warren
officially posed with all their children.


^2005 More red carpet/official "movie" stuff. The SAG awards, the annual
Oscar nominee luncheon and the actual Oscar red carpet.


^2005 Sep-Dec, campaigning with the teachers, nurses, police and
firefighters unions against Arnold the Schwarzenshrub and celebrating
VICTORY!


^And finally August 2006, the Emmy Awards.
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The year 1990 (release). The title "Dick Tracy". Warren Beatty fulfilled a
childhood dream making a movie version of the comic strip by which he
learned to read at age 4 (although in the later quoted Larry King interview
he talks about learning to read at age 6, his parents were both educators
and had great ambitions for their kids, so teeny tiny Warren first learned
how to read at age 4). The movie starred his then squeeze Madonna in
probably the only movie part in which what she does actually resembles
acting and she, quite possibly, looked her best (thanks to great make-up
artists, no doubt). Their relationship was more a mutual convenience
than a real deep love, although apparently Madonna was overheard
saying at the time she wanted Beatty to father her/a child(ren).
Madonna turned out to be too crude for Beatty, who - in true Professor
Higgins fashion - tried to install some class into her, to no avail.
He should be thanking his lucky stars that she dumped him.

A little over a year later he DID find a woman with a bit more refinement,
intelligence and class in Annette Bening, born in the same year as
Madonna, so also 21 years his junior. They turned out to be a match
made in heaven and soon it was Annette who was expecting Beatty's
first (of four) child, much to Madonna's chagrin.

About the movie: details can be read in a transcript of his promo visit
on Larry King Live in 1990 below (I received it together with a DVD
recording of the show and he's terribly cute and shy in it. Thanks to
my friend for hooking me up with it, and thanks to whomever took
the trouble to transcribe it. It must have been hell, considering it
was transcribed ver batim and considering that Beatty stutters and
stammers like crazy )
Anyway: it's a visually gorgeously styled movie, all born in that very
creative brain of Mr. Gorgeous. He followed the comic strip by heart,
so it's not a sensationalized, pimped up, computer generated thing,
but more an artistic hommage to it. A genius concept, a fantastic
cast of the biggest names, a - true to comic strips - simple story of
good and evil and nice music. Typically Beatty, he surrounded himself
with people he worked with before, in front of and behind the cameras.
So you'll see some of his co-stars from "Bonnie&Clyde (Estelle Parsons
and his friend since 1959 Michael J. Pollard), "McCabe and Mrs. Miller"
(John Schuck), "Ishtar" (very good pal Dustin Hoffman), "Heaven Can
Wait" (R.G. Armstrong) and good friends and future co-stars "Bulworth"
(Paul Sorvino). Despite the fact that Warren so quite rarely makes
movies, his reputation as an excellent film maker always assures the
biggest names to be jumping at the chance to work with him!

He also cast many old (semi) retired Hollywood actors in bit parts
such as Ian Wolfe (1896-1992) who had a bit part in Warren's movie
"The Fortune" in 1975 and also starred as bit player in over 200 movies
since 1934, including "Now Voyager", "A Place In The Sun", "Les
Miserables", "Houdini", "Seven Brides for Seven Brothers", "Rebel
without a Cause", as well as guest star in dozens of tv-shows
from the 1950's until the 1980's.
Henry Jones (1912-1999), a well known actor who played
small parts in almost 200 movies including "The Girl He Left Behind",
"Vertigo", "Butch Cassidy&The Sundance Kid", "Stay Away Joe",
as well as guest star in dozens of tv-shows from the 1950's until
the 1990's.
Mike Mazurki (1907-1990), played in more than 140 Hollywood
productions including "Gentleman Jim", "The Canterville Ghost",
"Dick Tracy" (in 1945!), "Samson and Delilah", "Some Like it Hot",
as well as guest star in dozens of tv-shows from the 1950's until
the 1980's.
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Larry King Live, June 1990, Warren Beatty's first appearance
on the show


LK= Larry King WB= Warren Beatty

LK: Why Dick Tracy? How did you get a concept like that:
'I wanna do Dick Tracy?' Why not Daredevil? Green Lantern?

WB: When I was a kid, I began to read on Dick Tracy, so,
it was a world for me...And so I think it was just something
about me that wanted to go back and... (his microphone falls
off his lapel )

LK: We always in NY have mike problems. That's the problem
with being live. Let's try to put that back on.... So, when you
say 'learned to read by reading Dick Tracy, you mean he was
your first image?

WB: Well, when I was 5 or 6 years old, 7 years old, I started
reading Dick Tracy. Yeah. So uh, I have an affection for the guy.

LK: Okay, but why now? Why would a comic strip say as a movie,
in 1990 make it? Did you think of it in 1980?

WB: Well, uh, people came to me with Dick Tracy for years...

LK: Really?

WB: I uh, I never quite saw myself playing Dick Tracy, cos I
thought I didn't look like him. Then I realized nobody looked
like him, so I thought well, mmmmmmmight as well be me instead
of somebody else, so uh (mike falls off again, King starts grabbing
WB's lapel and the microphone, WB starts blushing ) so uh...

LK: I think what we're gonna do is tape this...

WB:..... and so... (blushing, embarrassed smile)



LK: Who finally said... Who finally convinced you that not only
should you do this, but you should write it and direct it?

WB: Well, there was a very good script written by a couple of
writers named Cash and Epps (sp) and I took that and worked
with it, and uh, actually I'd always rather have another director
but uh, I uh, I uh, wound up directing it myself because uh,
I just uh, wanted to get started with the movie and at the same
time I'd developed a concept that I didn't want to foist on
somebody else so.... It's less fun to act and direct at the same
time... but....

LK: I would