Daniel Craig [Actor]

[Bellatheball]

^^ That's exactly what I thought until I saw Bond.....

[Pandora]

This man and Eva Green make terrify me. Unfortunately, a friend who was involved in the movie has been talking about it ever since the production began, so I'll have to stop chickening out and go watch it.

Much too FUG. *cringe*

[Somerset]

They think he's fug, and yet they still continue to click on his picture thread over and over...

[PrettyGirl]

Oh please! lol! Handsome-ness isn't neccessarily about nose, ears, hairline or jawlines....it's the whole package and if people like Sylvester Stallone or Brad Pitt at some point or another were considered sex-symbols for years and they have the strangest faces ever, that's a testament to how confidence, mannerisms, wardrobe and how one carries oneself in addition to their physical appearance, can go a loooong way. Some of the most handsome men on this planet have had women drooling like sick puppies and it's not because these men are so physically perfect, it's because they have 'IT'....and what that 'it' may be (aura, energy, whatever), is up for debate. But Daniel Craig is winning millions of fans all over world with this role, because his persona onscreen has shown a lot of people that he has 'IT'.

I can appreciate someone who's not symmetrically 'perfect' facially. Sometimes it's a hell of a lot more than that.

[HWBL]

Originally Posted by PrettyGirl

Oh please! lol! Handsome-ness isn't neccessarily about nose, ears, hairline or jawlines....it's the whole package and if people like Sylvester Stallone or Brad Pitt at some point or another were considered sex-symbols for years and they have the strangest faces ever, that's a testament to how confidence, mannerisms, wardrobe and how one carries oneself in addition to their physical appearance, can go a loooong way. Some of the most handsome men on this planet have had women drooling like sick puppies and it's not because these men are so physically perfect, it's because they have 'IT'....and what that 'it' may be (aura, energy, whatever), is up for debate. But Daniel Craig is winning millions of fans all over world with this role, because his persona onscreen has shown a lot of people that he has 'IT'.

I can appreciate someone who's not symmetrically 'perfect' facially. Sometimes it's a hell of a lot more than that.

I disagree about your explanation about "handsome-ness". THAT is all about physical beauty.
What you're referring to is more "charisma" or "appeal". Some fug like Craig may to some, like you, have an "appeal" because of the "charisma", something he exudes that appeals to you.
And yes, there are some physically gorgeous specimen who have the charisma of a piece of dead wood.

[PrettyGirl]

^If handsome-ness was solely based on the physical, then any man who had wrinkles, grey hair or some weight gain wouldn't be considered handsome anymore because they were no longer 'ideal' or perfect. That would knock off A LOT of males over the age of 40...and from what we've seen here, there are a lot of people who adore, worship and drool over a lot of actors who are waaaaay past that age and who aren't that physically perfect anymore (or ever were to begin with honestly). And yet, guess what? Some women still consider men who are in their 40's, 50's or even 60's extremely attractive and HANDSOME because the don't consider their imperfections (like receding hairlines, wrinkles, saggy necks or old man lips) because they see something more....they see appeal, classiness or perhaps it's just sheer loyalty and/or arrogance.

So, no, handsome-ness isn't just the physical to a lot of women--it's the whole package, what a man represents as a whole: face, body, personality and charm. And the same holds true for women. Some men may find certain women extremely beautiful not just because of the physical--it's part of it, yes, but not all of it. Most of the time it's everything: personality and demeanor coupled with looks.

[HWBL]

Originally Posted by PrettyGirl

^If handsome-ness was solely based on the physical, then any man who had wrinkles, grey hair or some weight gain wouldn't be considered handsome anymore because they were no longer 'ideal' or perfect. That would knock off A LOT of males over the age of 40...and from what we've seen here, there are a lot of people who adore, worship and drool over a lot of actors who are waaaaay past that age and who aren't that physically perfect anymore (or ever were to begin with honestly). And yet, guess what? Some women still consider men who are in their 40's, 50's or even 60's extremely attractive and HANDSOME because the don't consider their imperfections (like receding hairlines, wrinkles, saggy necks or old man lips) because they see something more....they see appeal, classiness or perhaps it's just sheer loyalty and/or arrogance.

So, no, handsome-ness isn't just the physical to a lot of women--it's the whole package, what a man represents as a whole: face, body, personality and charm. And the same holds true for women. Some men may find certain women extremely beautiful not just because of the physical--it's part of it, yes, but not all of it. Most of the time it's everything: personality and demeanor coupled with looks.

No, again I have to disagree. "Handsome-ness" has less to do with age, than with aesthetics. Look at Paul Newman: he's 81, he's balding. The hair he still has is grey and he has wrinkles. Yet, he's still a handsome man. Why? Because he has beautiful features. Some people even look better or more handsome/beautiful with age. Some people who were handsome when they were young, change for the worse because their features change.

Craig (just using him as an example because it's his thread) does not have an aesthetically handsome face: it doesn't have refined, or symmetric, or classical features. So somebody like him, regardless of what age they are, will never be "handsome". In their case their attraction might lie in what I discussed before: "charisma". He may age well (although I doubt it, but miracles happen) and turn out better looking or more "handsome" as he ages.

Again the characteristics you name (appeal, classiness) all fall under the abstract or subjective i.e. "charisma", that which cannot be seen or explained, just felt.

[Bellatheball]

Originally Posted by Pandora

This man and Eva Green make terrify me. Unfortunately, a friend who was involved in the movie has been talking about it ever since the production began, so I'll have to stop chickening out and go watch it.

Much too FUG. *cringe*

Oooh, what did your friend do and what did he/she say about DC?

[SVZ]

Originally Posted by PrettyGirl

^If handsome-ness was solely based on the physical, then any man who had wrinkles, grey hair or some weight gain wouldn't be considered handsome anymore because they were no longer 'ideal' or perfect. That would knock off A LOT of males over the age of 40...and from what we've seen here, there are a lot of people who adore, worship and drool over a lot of actors who are waaaaay past that age and who aren't that physically perfect anymore (or ever were to begin with honestly). And yet, guess what? Some women still consider men who are in their 40's, 50's or even 60's extremely attractive and HANDSOME because the don't consider their imperfections (like receding hairlines, wrinkles, saggy necks or old man lips) because they see something more....they see appeal, classiness or perhaps it's just sheer loyalty and/or arrogance.

So, no, handsome-ness isn't just the physical to a lot of women--it's the whole package, what a man represents as a whole: face, body, personality and charm. And the same holds true for women. Some men may find certain women extremely beautiful not just because of the physical--it's part of it, yes, but not all of it. Most of the time it's everything: personality and demeanor coupled with looks.

Because of anisogamy it's more crucial for women to choose a mate that provides more direct and indirect benefits. indirect benefits are related to things like display features that correlate to "good genes". direct benefits are things like...his bank account, car, social status, etc. women may actually select for older males because this means they've had the enviroment select on them longer, reducing the possibility that they possess any deleterious or timed lethal genes (an indirect benefit, because dating an older man provides no direct benefit if there are comparitavely younger men with the same social status, income, etc). of course cultural influence and social pressures do have an influence, known as mate copying...however it's threshold isn't as high as we might think. I think it's somewhere between 20-30% of difference - which is why it's easier to get someone to agree to brad pitt's physical attractiveness as opposed to daniel craig's physical attractiveness (since there is none it's all charisma)

[Bellatheball]

You guys are making my head swim! Can't we just say some of us find him hot and some don't? Is there that much debate on the other hot guy/girl threads?

[PrettyGirl]

See, Paul Newman is a perfect example! His best feature were his blue eyes, that goes without saying, but to me he was highly overrated. He had nice eyes and maybe for his time, his era, he stood out, but he never made my boat float. And honestly, I think back in that era, a lot of the male actors WEREN'T that handsome and their bodies weren't that great. There are better looking actors now with much better bodies. But these old time actors became such sex-symbols because of the exact thing we mentioned: CHARISMA. Charisma and mystique did more for Paul Newman than his face ever did. Clark Gable (big nose, wierd teeth) and even Rudolph Valentino (not that attractive to me personally) had a lot of imperfections and yet they were considered sooooo handsome in Hollywood in their time because of the same reason: the whole package they personified.

I guess it's all a matter of taste. Some men may think Angelina Jolie, for example, is the most beautiful woman ever and others may think she has the wierdest face on the planet. Some people can (and will) dissect her face and say she has too big of a mouth, her face is too round or that her nose is too wide. Someone else may think Halle Berry's face is gorgeous while others may think she's rather plain and that there's there's nothing exceptional about her face. Or the debate we've had before about Lisa Marie Presley. Some people may think, okay, Presley may not be as attractive as her parents, but she is pretty and she looks a hell of a lot like Elvis. But there are others who will turn blue in the face saying she's totally ugly and she doesn't look anything like her father. IT'S ALL PERCEPTION.

IMO there is NOTHING 'ugly' or strange about Daniel Craig's face. He unfortunately doesn't photograph well, but he is wonderful onscreen. The clothing and the character he portrayed in this role only added to his already aesthetically attractive looks. I could see a regular man like him at a club and believe me, he would most definitely get my attention because I would consider someone who looks like him handsome...piercing blue eyes, decent height, nice body, his coloring (I like light complected men with light hair), the rugged looks and believe it or not, I like the pouty mouth. I'd see a man like him and totally see handsome...the charisma (or whatever) would only be on top of features that were hot IMO.

Again, I guess, it's all a matter of taste. So for those who think he's fugly, you're entitled to that opinion, but to many of us he is extremely attractive. The eye-brain thing is working and it's saying 'DELICIOUS'....lol!!

[Lily]

I prefer men who aren't "pretty" or conventionally handsome to the Brad Pitts of the world. However:

I think Daniel Craig is just hideous. There's something about him that is exceedingly vain, and unbelievably skeevy. It isn't that he isn't "handsome".....it's that he's just gross. Also, his man-pout is really stupid and extremely annoying.

[PrettyGirl]

^I'm the same way in regards to not really liking pretty men...I like that sort of rugged, manly look also. Also, I can understand your point that Daniel Craig may not appeal to you not because you're not aware that he may be physically attractive, but other things about him may turn you off. The whole package doesn't appeal to you for whatever reason and that's fair enough.

[pattycake]

Originally Posted by Bellatheball

You guys are making my head swim! Can't we just say some of us find him hot and some don't? Is there that much debate on the other hot guy/girl threads?

I totally agree!!

Hot or not but Daniel Craig is here to stay and I will be the first one in line to see all his movies.

[Bellatheball]

^^ Back off bitch (or just get in line behind me).

I don't like the new smilies.