October 29th, 2009, 09:18 PM
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Here's what I don't get -- all the reference to heavyset women at the club and the guys who are interested in them (thin or fat). And almost no quotes or references to heavyset guys in the article.
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October 29th, 2009, 09:28 PM
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I'm not talking about scrawny thin. I'm talking about being toned, tight, and healthy looking. I still don't believe that anyone would PREFER to have cellulite, batwings, muffin tops, belly rolls, back fat, etc. instead. I didn't say fat people can't work what they have, but to say you'd RATHER be that way? I will never believe that. I've never known one fat person who hasn't been thrilled when they've lost any amount of weight. If they like being fat, why? I doubt it's solely because of the health benefits. Some girls will always be on the bigger end of the spectrum and carry a little more meat on their bones. There's a difference between being "healthy" looking and obese. Women who say they'd rather be the latter are lying to themselves and everyone else.
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let me share......i'm 5'9. i've always weighed around 140 ish. i never felt good, i was too thin. sure, i didnt have those batwings (wtf?) or back fat, but i also felt like shit ALL the time. once i gained some weight (i'm about 190 now), i havent felt this good in a long time. if i had my choice? i'd RATHER be this way. And pshaw to anyone (like you) who chooses to try to make a judgement call on how someone looks or feels.
and btw, i have AWESOME looking legs.
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October 29th, 2009, 10:09 PM
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Well, I used to be "normal" thin, and I am way overweight now and I hate it. It's my own fault, and I know this. I'd probably only go to a club like this (not like there would EVER be one in my city) if I felt like I wouldn't feel stupid being there. And I probably wouldn't. But I tell ya...I'd hate it that I DIDN'T feel stupid for being there, mainly because I simply can't stand it that I am this heavy.
That probably makes no sense, but it does in my head.
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October 29th, 2009, 11:15 PM
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If they want to go to a club specifically aimed at larger clientele, then I say go for it. People who are so bothered by it certainly don't have to go. The "fat acceptance movement" comment was retarded.
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October 30th, 2009, 01:09 AM
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I think people can be big and happy, and that they can prefer it to being thin. How many times do we need to say it, WE ARE ALL DIFFERENT! We like different things, we think differently, we feel differently and how each one of us views ourselves as a person is unique. Some men and women don't feel good about their body and sexy unless they are well toned and slim, other people feel feel more sexy and sensual when they are soft and squidgy. Just because person A would hate to be big and know that they couldn't feel attractive carrying extra weight doesn't mean that person B will feel the same way. I have been very slim - I used to run three/four times a week, swim two/three times a week and cycled everywhere, as well as eating a very healthy diet packed with fruit and veg - and I actually feel sexier and happier with my body now that I am carrying extra weight. I'm not a plus size (I'm a UK size 12 and about 5' 5" tall), but in todays size zero media culture I'm huge, but I don't care. I have to live in this body so I'm going to be the size that makes me happy.
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October 30th, 2009, 02:04 AM
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let me share......i'm 5'9. i've always weighed around 140 ish. i never felt good, i was too thin. sure, i didnt have those batwings (wtf?) or back fat, but i also felt like shit ALL the time. once i gained some weight (i'm about 190 now), i havent felt this good in a long time. if i had my choice? i'd RATHER be this way. And pshaw to anyone (like you) who chooses to try to make a judgement call on how someone looks or feels.
and btw, i have AWESOME looking legs.
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Ok, well 5'9"and 190 is hardly what I'd call obese and you probably look fine, so my statement doesn't even apply to you. When you get to 250-300, get back to me and tell me how great you feel about yourself.
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October 30th, 2009, 10:33 AM
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Ok, well 5'9"and 190 is hardly what I'd call obese and you probably look fine, so my statement doesn't even apply to you. When you get to 250-300, get back to me and tell me how great you feel about yourself.
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Seriously, what's your issue? It's not your fat, so what's your concern if someone is happy with it or not? I think people should care about their own happiness with their own bodies, and stop worrying about the happiness and jiggle of a fat chick!
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October 30th, 2009, 11:33 AM
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Ok, well 5'9"and 190 is hardly what I'd call obese and you probably look fine, so my statement doesn't even apply to you. When you get to 250-300, get back to me and tell me how great you feel about yourself.
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Good gawd. Hon, I have weighed as much 344 at one point in my life. And ya know what?? I still felt good about myself. Its people like YOU that have misguided perceptions about overweight people. It is all about the body OWNERS Perception of how they feel. How's that for getting back to ya?
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October 30th, 2009, 11:47 AM
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It's a little disturbing that some people put their own issues about weight onto other people, as if no other feelings could possibly be legitimate. And that "fat acceptance movement" comment is downright prejudiced. Just because someone is overweight doesn't mean they should be ashamed of their bodies, nor should they feel ugly. It's none of your fucking business.
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October 30th, 2009, 11:57 AM
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It's a little disturbing that some people put their own issues about weight onto other people, as if no other feelings could possibly be legitimate. And that "fat acceptance movement" comment is downright prejudiced. Just because someone is overweight doesn't mean they should be ashamed of their bodies, nor should they feel ugly. It's none of your fucking business.
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I agree with you. I'm naturally thin, but I can understand for a lot of people that just isn't the case.
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October 30th, 2009, 02:01 PM
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Good gawd. Hon, I have weighed as much 344 at one point in my life. And ya know what?? I still felt good about myself. Its people like YOU that have misguided perceptions about overweight people. It is all about the body OWNERS Perception of how they feel. How's that for getting back to ya?
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Ok, whatever you say. Why don't you still weigh that much if it was so great? I personally don't care if someone is fat because I don't have to live in his or her body. I don't comment or really think twice about obese people I see and I certainly don't lose any sleep over whether or not they're happy in their bodies. However, you cannot convince me that someone would rather carry tons of extra weight on their body and deal with the extra strain on their joints, heart, and endocrine system. Not to mention subjecting themselves to public ridicule, and just literally try to fit into a world designed for average sized people. I believe it's nothing more than a coping mechanism to say you love being that way, especially when it's something over which you have some degree of control.
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October 30th, 2009, 02:36 PM
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Ok, whatever you say. Why don't you still weigh that much if it was so great?
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because i almost died, and lost 100 lbs. there ya go. feel better?
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October 30th, 2009, 02:44 PM
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^^I know what you mean MsDeb.
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Ok, whatever you say. I personally don't care if someone is fat because I don't have to live in their body. I don't comment or really think twice about obese people I see and I certainly don't lose any sleep over whether or not they're happy in their bodies. However, you cannot convince me that someone would rather carry tons of extra weight on their body and deal with the extra strain on their joints and heart, subject themselves to public ridicule, and just literally try to fit into a world designed for average sized people. I believe it's nothing more than a coping mechanism to say you love being that way, especially when it's something over which you have some degree of control.
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I don't what size you are or what issue you have. But it's not a strain on me, I can walk the stairs, miles, dance all night in 5in heels etc..without losing my breath or needing to sit. Yeah I'm bigger, and if people are going to ridicule me, who cares...it's not going to hurt my feelings. So, let them stare when I eat that second slice of cheesecake at dinner tonight, or tomorrow when I dress up as Tina Turner for Halloween, because what they think won't make me or break me.
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October 30th, 2009, 03:50 PM
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because i almost died, and lost 100 lbs. there ya go. feel better?
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But I thought being fat was so fabulous! I'm sorry you almost died, and no, I don't feel better...but I bet YOU do. Can you honestly say you'd want all that weight back if given the choice? Of course not.
I happen to agree with the fat acceptance comment someone made earlier. Why do we feel the need to CELEBRATE people making poor choices for their health? Why do fat people get a pat on their backs for settling to be the way they are? Why, if they supposedly love themselves so much, don't they feel they deserve better than that? Would you say to a close friend or family member who abused drugs or alcohol, "Hey, if you're happy with yourself, then good for you! It's nobody's business but your own! Anyone who doesn't like it can go fuck themselves! Go on with your bad self and work that addiction if it makes you feel good!" No, we don't. Why is abusing your body through food any better?
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October 30th, 2009, 03:59 PM
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Tic Tac you really dont get it do you? Its about what you think of yourself, not what OTHERS think of you.
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