I love the smell of a pandemic in the morning (official swine flu thread)

[Sojiita]

I am actually allowed to get it now as I am considered a 'health care worker" and deal with a high risk population. But the places offering it are swamped here and the company is supposed to pay for it and all so I am just waiting for them to move their corporate asses! I also will get the regular flu shot. This thing is sure to move like a prairie fire through the population I deal with, and I do NOT want to get it-and we cannot afford to get it-we HAVE to be at work with these people-they cannot be alone.

They are all getting it too...I work with two who would be very susceptible to this flu.

Also from what personal experiences I have heard, this swine flu is much harder hitting, especially towards people who are not in the normal 'high risk' groups. It is very telling that college students are not only getting it, but getting very bad cases of it. If you look at the people here locally who have died, none of them was very young or very old(the normal high risk groups).

- a pregnant mom of 20
-a healthy 14 year old boy
-a 46 year old man(YIKES!)

Not the normal death pattern for the flu here.

[Shinola]

Where I live, people with flulike symptoms are assumed to have "swine flu" but aren't actually tested for the H1N1 virus. So ... how do we know what kind of flu it is, or if it even is flu?

Personally, I have grown very tired of fear-mongering by the media and the government. Whenever I am presented with something that is fear-inducing, and that something is supposed to lead me and other people to act in a way that will enrich someone (big pharma, in this case), I get skeptical.

It hasn't been played up, but even a venue as mainstream as CBS news has contradicted the CDC on swine flu:

Swine Flu Cases Overestimated? - CBS News

[A*O]

Now if I was a cynic (who, moi?) I'd say that the Govt is very happy for the media to be giving the public something, anything, else to worry about instead of mass job losses, the financial crisis generally, the snafu in Iraq, Obama's total inertia, the list goes on.

[Shinola]

^^Excellent point. Good thing you're not a cynic!

[Moongirl]

MSNBC.com
Obama girls get H1N1 shots, president waits
Daughters got shots after they became available to Washington, D.C., kids
The Associated Press
updated 12:58 p.m. PT, Tues., Oct . 27, 2009

WASHINGTON - President Barack Obama's daughters, Malia and Sasha, have received their swine flu shots.

A spokeswoman for first lady Michelle Obama said Tuesday that 11-year-old Malia and 8-year-old Sasha received their H1N1 shots last week from a White House doctor after the vaccine became available to schoolchildren in the Washington, D.C., area.

The spokeswoman, Katie McCormick Lelyveld, said the president and Mrs. Obama would wait to get their shots until after people in priority groups, such as children, young adults and pregnant women, have received their H1N1 vaccinations.

All four of the Obamas already have received their seasonal flu shots.


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[Charmed Hour]

Well, my 34 year old sister was diagnosed with Swine (officially tested) late yesterday. Thankfully, she went to her dr within the 48 hour window and is being treated with TamiFlu. I was up at her house Sunday night, so thanks biatch for exposing me. LOL

[Sojiita]

Originally Posted by A*O

Now if I was a cynic (who, moi?) I'd say that the Govt is very happy for the media to be giving the public something, anything, else to worry about instead of mass job losses, the financial crisis generally, the snafu in Iraq, Obama's total inertia, the list goes on.

Hell I would not be surprised if the government cooked it up in some lab and then spread it in Mexico(knowing of course it would get here quickly) for any and all of the reasons listed!!!! Would not be the first time they did stuff like this...right?

*paging Alice to conspiracy post!!!

[Annika]

Originally Posted by pwry

I've got it right now ... it was inevitable as I teach at a college here in Montreal. I would like to add that I haven't experienced such uncomfortable body aches before. Wow. It was not fun. I appear to be on the road to recovery -- fingers crossed, but so many of my colleagues and students and friends are dropping like flies. Please stay healthy everyone!

dropping like flies? wtf! they aren't dying right? (that's the term i use for mass deathication)

[twitchy2.0]

Unidentified flu outbreak in Western Ukraine.

October29200919:48
Western Ukraine was hit by a severe epidemic of unidentified influenza, tentatively diagnosed by doctors as viral pneumonia. The number of dead has climbed dramatically. Doctors advise Western Ukrainians to stay at home and use preventive medication. The first pedestrians wearing face masks have been seen on Lviv streets

Lviv kindergartens and schools have been closed, and the city council is to have its emergency session soon to address the flu outbreak. So far, the information released by the authorities on the epidemic dimensions spread and preventive measures is scarce, causing panic to spread in the city.

Here are the latest reports on the situation in other W.Ukraine oblasts:

Ternopil oblast As the number of sick persons increases, the authorities describe the situation as rather serious, says Ternopil oblast chief medical officer Bohdan Onyskiv.
“In all, 262 patients are treated in hospitals, of these 16 in serious condition. !* children have died in rural areas and 70 in Ternopil,” he says.
Onyskiv confirmed that they died from viral pneumonia.
The main cause of their death is that sick Ukrainians were too late requesting medical help, most of them on the 5th or 6th day of the disease. They stayed at home, trying to treat themselves, visiting hospitals when it was too late. The disease has a distinct viral nature, complicating treatment, he added.

Lviv Oblast
Five persons have died from the flu in Lviv, four men and one woman, says emergency hospital chief doctor Myron Borysevych.
Two of the dead patients were in the 22-35 age group, with 2 others over 60. He diagnosed the disease as viral pneumonia.
“We have sent the analyses to Kyiv. We don’t believe it’s the swine flu. Neither do we know what kind of pneumonia it is,
Borysevych stressed. Viral tests can last from one to two weeks. They are complicated and not done in Lviv. The course of the disease was very quick. The symptoms included very high temperature and short-wind cough.
The disease started as an ordinary chill with headache and temperature. The symptoms lasted for a week before patient condition began to aggravate.

Zakarpattya Oblast
A man has died from the swine flu in Volovets. He has recently returned from Saint Petersburg, Russia, suffering from a cold. He was rushed to the hospital when pneumonia symptoms were found by doctors. Another local who came from Moscow became sick and went to see his doctor in time. Now he is recovering safely.

Ivano-Frankivsk Oblast
All the six dead young people had symptoms of severe hemmorhagic pneumonia. The disease starts slowly, with temperature rising to 37.2 – 37.3 degrees, slight cough and pain in joints. Nasal catarrh developed at the end of the second or third day. Autopsy revealed that the lungs were soaked with blood, the oblast chief specialist said.

Chernivtsi Oblast
The number of persons with common flu in Chernivtsi has grown from 2,623 to 4,053. According to the local medical authorities, the city has been hit by an unknown type of the flu. The tests to identify the virus will be ready only in 2 weeks, doctors say.

Source: Unidentified flue outbreak in Western Ukraine. Photo
(I took the liberty of changing the spelling of 'flue' to 'flu' because it was pissing me off)

[McJag]

Jeeze-how bad must it be? I mean,we have it everywhere here & I have not seen one mask!
That just ruins an outfit.

[t13nif]

Originally Posted by twitchy2.0

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Lviv Oblast
Five persons have died from the flu in Lviv, four men and one woman, says emergency hospital chief doctor Myron Borysevych.
Two of the dead patients were in the 22-35 age group, with 2 others over 60. He diagnosed the disease as viral pneumonia.
“We have sent the analyses to Kyiv. We don’t believe it’s the swine flu. Neither do we know what kind of pneumonia it is,
Borysevych stressed.

Source: Unidentified flue outbreak in Western Ukraine. Photo
(I took the liberty of changing the spelling of 'flue' to 'flu' because it was pissing me off)

What the fuck would it take for them to believe it's the swine flu??? Head in the sand much?

On another note, a school in Northern BC has closed as 1/3 of the students and teachers have H1N1.

On another another note--it looks like 'regular' people may not get the vaccine for a month here. Vaccine shortage--surprise, surprise. And as an aside....i think i am coming down with it....we'll know later tonight or tomorrow .

[Annika]

Originally Posted by McJag

Jeeze-how bad must it be? I mean,we have it everywhere here & I have not seen one mask!
That just ruins an outfit.

i was reading about it on flutrackers, one guy in the comments section at a news source said that the city in ukraine wasn't as bad as they were saying, that it's mostly over publicized. i think that alot of those pictures are just staged.

and its probably H1N1 with tuberculosis or typhoid, cuz they have some typhoid there.