I love the smell of a pandemic in the morning (official swine flu thread) - Page 7

bellini · October 26th, 2009, 11:58 AM

What do you all think of the fact, that so far, Obama's daughters have not been vaccinated?

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President Obama’s school age daughters have not been vaccinated against the H1N1 flu virus. White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs says the vaccine is not available to them based on their risk.
The Centers for Disease Control recommend that children ages 6 months through 18 years of age receive a vaccination against the H1N1 flu virus. At this time only children with chronic medical conditions are receiving the vaccination because their immune system is not strong enough to fight off the strain. The CDC also says a regular seasonal flu shot does not protect against the virus.

Obama’s Daughters Not Vaccinated Against H1N1 | Romanian National Vanguard News Agency

MohandasKGanja · October 26th, 2009, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Charmed Hour

Both also stated none of their children would be getting the vaccines either. They've each been vaccinated, as it's hospital policy (I don't work in the hospital) but don't feel it's 100% necessary for a healthy child or adult to be vaccinated. They said it's more of a concern for children and adults with underlying issues such as unregulated asthma or other respiratory issues.

A perfectly healthy 18-year-old out here just died of complications from it. Apparently, it wasn't the flu that killed him but a secondary infection he got from having a weakened immune system (from battling the flu).

t13nif · October 26th, 2009, 01:40 PM

President Obama’s school age daughters have not been vaccinated against the H1N1 flu virus. White House Press Secretary Robert Gibbs says the vaccine is not available to them based on their risk.
The Centers for Disease Control recommend that children ages 6 months through 18 years of age receive a vaccination against the H1N1 flu virus. At this time only children with chronic medical conditions are receiving the vaccination because their immune system is not strong enough to fight off the strain. The CDC also says a regular seasonal flu shot does not protect against the virus.

It says right in there why they haven't been vaccinated.

bellini · October 26th, 2009, 01:53 PM

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The 15-member panel of doctors, scientists, vaccine experts, public-health officials and a citizen representative came up with five core populations they believe should receive the first wave of H1N1/09 immunization. These include pregnant women, people living in households with babies under 6 months old (since infants cannot be immunized, they must be protected by preventing illness in those around them), emergency medical personnel who are likely to be in contact with infected patients, young people between 6 months and 24 years old, and nonelderly individuals who have underlying conditions, such as asthma, respiratory illness or a compromised immune system, that put them at higher risk of flu complications.

I've read that one of his daughter has Asthma.

Who Should Get the H1N1 Vaccine First? - TIME

t13nif · October 26th, 2009, 03:54 PM

I don't know about the asthma, but they are rolling out the vaccinations for the target groups in order...so i guess in this case it means children with underlying health conditions will be vaccinated before children aged 6 months - 18 years, who will receive it somewhere down the line.

McJag · October 26th, 2009, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by bellini

I've read that one of his daughter has Asthma.

Who Should Get the H1N1 Vaccine First? - TIME

Right-but hear the screaming if she gets her shot first. They have to wait their turn.

bellini · October 26th, 2009, 04:23 PM

I've been reading that it is available in D.C.

This is from a blog:

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Like the President and his family, I am a DC resident. The DC Department of Health has made the H1N1 vaccine available to all children ages 6 mos. to 18 years, regardless of underlying condition. I certainly don't expect the President's children to show up a neighborhood flu vaccine clinic but the vaccine is available for children in DC.

I also looked at this article which listed clinics giving the vaccination to youth and pregnant women.

Swine Flu Vaccinations: When and Where to Get Them (washingtonpost.com)

I'm interested to see if they will be vaccinated. Not everyone is onboard with having their kids get the shots.

MohandasKGanja · October 26th, 2009, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by bellini

I've been reading that it is available in D.C.

This is from a blog:
I also looked at this article which listed clinics giving the vaccination to youth and pregnant women.

Swine Flu Vaccinations: When and Where to Get Them (washingtonpost.com)

I'm interested to see if they will be vaccinated. Not everyone is onboard with having their kids get the shots.

I wonder when WP officially posted that article. Those seem to be target dates and populations. From what I read in my copy of the Washington Post this weekend is that there are drastic shortages out here (I'm just north of Washington). Something like 10,000 people showed up for shots in Rockville, MD (I believe) and the health officials had to use bullhorns to get people in some semblance of a line. Even then, they ran out of shots (but I believe they still had Flu Mist on hand). Ironically, MedImmune (which I think makes Flu Mist), is only about 3 miles up the road.

McJag · October 26th, 2009, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MohandasKGanja

I wonder when WP officially posted that article. Those seem to be target dates and populations. From what I read in my copy of the Washington Post this weekend is that there are drastic shortages out here (I'm just north of Washington). Something like 10,000 people showed up for shots in Rockville, MD (I believe) and the health officials had to use bullhorns to get people in some semblance of a line. Even then, they ran out of shots (but I believe they still had Flu Mist on hand). Ironically, MedImmune (which I think makes Flu Mist), is only about 3 miles up the road.

The very reason they cannot jump to the front of the line.

Charmed Hour · October 27th, 2009, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by MohandasKGanja

A perfectly healthy 18-year-old out here just died of complications from it. Apparently, it wasn't the flu that killed him but a secondary infection he got from having a weakened immune system (from battling the flu).

Statistically, the average person won't be so incapacitated by Swine, or any other flu. IMO, these types of deaths being so heavily reported, ex, "He was so young and healthy!!!" are the exceptions to the rule.

RE: people feeling achy, etc. after the shot.. it's not the flu, it's a reaction.

MohandasKGanja · October 27th, 2009, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Charmed Hour

Statistically, the average person won't be so incapacitated by Swine, or any other flu. IMO, these types of deaths being so heavily reported, ex, "He was so young and healthy!!!" are the exceptions to the rule.

RE: people feeling achy, etc. after the shot.. it's not the flu, it's a reaction.

I think one of the problems is that anyone born after 1957 hasn't been exposed to enough strains of the flu to give them the kind of immunity that would protect them from a potentially serious bout.

If I remember correctly, the people who were most vulnerable to the Spanish Flu (1918, which killed about 50-100 million worldwide) were ironically among the healthiest. However, because they were younger, they hadn't been exposed to the previous Russian flu epidemic and didn't have a chance to build up immunity. In addition, like in the case of the teenager I cited, the majority of Spanish flu deaths were from secondary infections (bacterial pneumonia) caused by the flu.

t13nif · October 27th, 2009, 01:43 PM

A 13 yr old hockey player in Ontario just died. He hadn't been feeling well, had a sore throat and neck, went to the walk-in clinic on Sunday. He vomited when he came home but his dad said that the fever was down. He collapsed at home and died as soon as he got to the hospital

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twitchy2.0 · October 27th, 2009, 03:59 PM

A girl died in our area too: CBC News - Ottawa - Eastern Ont. child dies after H1N1 diagnosis

I fetched my eldest back from Toronto last week after she was diagnosed with flu. I had the most disjointed phone call asking to come get her. When I got there, the lack of coherence made sense because I could see she was delirious and spiking a fever. The residence had given her the choice of going home or being quarantined in her room until 24 hours after the fevers passed with someone taking her food upon request. I don't think they thought their policy through very well. She was in no condition to be on her own. Fevers lasted five days.

t13nif · October 27th, 2009, 04:26 PM

^^Yeah, they're not even really testing for it here. My best friend at work got sick, went to her doctor, and was sent home with instructions to quarantine herself for a week. She's 36. My neighbour who as it is 41. Pretty much everyone i know who has it is around those ages.

A*O · October 27th, 2009, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by t13nif

^^Yeah, they're not even really testing for it here. My best friend at work got sick, went to her doctor, and was sent home with instructions to quarantine herself for a week. She's 36. My neighbour who as it is 41. Pretty much everyone i know who has it is around those ages.

Virtually ALL reported cases of flu during our recent annual flu season were H1N1. They didn't even bother to test. Overall the number of deaths were no greater or less than other flu seasons and those who did die were in the high risk category for this strain, just as they would be for any flu. Yes, some "perfectly healthy" people died too but that also happens every year and it's just bad luck unfortunately.

The (free) vaccine is now available here and everyone is being encouraged to get their shot in case we get a "second wave" of H1N1 which most probably will be delivered by someone off a flight from LA like last time.