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Old March 27th, 2008, 01:40 PM   #31 (permalink)
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best way to circumvent melanoma on the face is to have a facial plastic surgeon do a 30% chem peel during the winter. The plus is that afterwards your skin looks fabulously radiant and you can throw away your pancake makeup.
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Old March 27th, 2008, 01:44 PM   #32 (permalink)
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Anyone know the difference between Carcinoma and Melanoma?
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Old March 27th, 2008, 07:22 PM   #33 (permalink)
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^^The two are not related. Melanoma is a skin cancer. In vary basic terms (because I am not a doctor or a science person), a carcinoma is a cancer of the epithelial cells which line the insides of various organs. You can have a carcinoma of the prostate for example or a carcinoma of the colon, for example. There is plenty of stuff online to flesh this all out for you.
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Old March 28th, 2008, 12:59 AM   #34 (permalink)
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best way to circumvent melanoma on the face is to have a facial plastic surgeon do a 30% chem peel during the winter. The plus is that afterwards your skin looks fabulously radiant and you can throw away your pancake makeup.
I've done this. Painful but great for stimulating collagen AND removing old sun damage. I'm also pleased to say that I'm no longer a freckle face.

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Old March 28th, 2008, 01:03 AM   #35 (permalink)
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Anyone know the difference between Carcinoma and Melanoma?
Carcinoma is a general term for cancer of all types. Melanoma is specifically skin cancer, usually a malignant mole.
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Old March 28th, 2008, 01:07 AM   #36 (permalink)
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^^A*O, it's my understanding that most melanomas do not emanate from existing moles. Some yes, but not all. That's one of the reasons why it's so important to get "mole mapped".

I like your carcinoma explanation much better than mine. Plain and simple.
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Old March 28th, 2008, 01:17 AM   #37 (permalink)
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You are right, it's usually a 'new' mole but many people like me who already have lots of moles anyway don't always spot the new ones. I get the doc to give me a quick once-over when I go for routine checkups for other things. They can usually spot suspicious moles very quickly, especially here in Oz where melanoma is such a big problem.
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Old March 28th, 2008, 05:09 AM   #38 (permalink)
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are most cancerous moles raised? or are flat freckly ones suspicious too?
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Old March 28th, 2008, 06:14 AM   #39 (permalink)
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Google "melanoma" and you will find lots of pics of suspicious moles. Basically you need to look out for any new moles or changes in existing ones, eg, changed shape, colour, texture, weeping, etc.

It's important to be aware of this but don't get paranoid. At the same time if you are pale skinned or burn easily then don't lay around in the sun all day trying to get a tan and wear plenty of 30+ factor sunscreen on exposed skin when you go out in the sun. Excessive use of sunbeds is asking for trouble too.
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Old March 28th, 2008, 01:26 PM   #40 (permalink)
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are most cancerous moles raised? or are flat freckly ones suspicious too?
My mom's was flat completely and started from an existing mole. I have no idea if that's typical. The reason why I spotted it on her and made the appointment for her was because I knew it was different from before: different color and shape.

I found a spot under my eye and had the doc look at it yesterday. We'll watch it for now. That's all you can do, as well as preventative measures with sun exposure.

A mole check by your doc is the best way to go, as well as knowing your body well enough to spot a change.

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I've done this. Painful but great for stimulating collagen AND removing old sun damage. I'm also pleased to say that I'm no longer a freckle face.
Did you get any residual pink or red hanging on for a long time? How was the soreness around your eyes and mouth?
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Old March 28th, 2008, 01:43 PM   #41 (permalink)
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I had a TCA peel. It's pricey. I had to stay inside for about a week and wait for my skin to completely heal. No residual redness and no soreness whatsoever. It's only painful when the acid is first applied to the face. yeeouch! It's an intense burning sensation that starts to ebb within 20-30 minutes and your face can get itchy during the peeling/healing process. Other than that, it's a piece of cake.
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Old March 28th, 2008, 01:50 PM   #42 (permalink)
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^Thanks!
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Is Sunbathing Good for You?Fact-checking new claims from the Indoor Tanning Association.

By Nina Shen Rastogi
Posted Thursday, March 27, 2008, at 7:06 PM ET

On Wednesday, the Indoor Tanning Association ran a full-page ad (PDF) in the New York Times claiming that "there is no compelling scientific evidence that tanning causes melanoma." It went on to say that "recent research indicates that the benefits of moderate exposure to sunlight"—namely, increased levels of vitamin D—"outweigh the hypothetical risks." Wait, is sunbathing good for you?
Only for a few minutes. Exposure to sunlight (or the UV lamps in a tanning bed) does cause the skin to produce vitamin D, which has a host of salubrious benefits, including the maintenance of normal blood levels of phosphorus and calcium and the promotion of healthy bones. Studies have shown that many segments of the population aren't getting enough of the vitamin, which may even aid in the prevention of cancer, diabetes, and HIV. According to almost all experts, most people could cover their bases by getting just five to 15 minutes of sunlight two to three times a week. (You'll need a little more if you're darker-skinned, a little less if you live near the equator.) Supplements are also an option. So even the palest sun worshipper doesn't need to get a tan for a vitamin fix.
So, does tanning cause melanoma? First, to be clear, it isn't tanning that's the problem—it's the sun exposure that causes both the suntan and, as most dermatologists believe, the cancer.
Second, there are two kinds of skin cancer: melanoma and nonmelanoma. Nonmelanoma skin cancers, by far the more common variety, usually aren't fatal, though their removal can be painful and cause scarring. Because these lumpy, scaly areas usually appear on parts of the body that get regular sun exposure, and because they are found on outdoor workers more frequently than on indoor workers, most doctors assume that solar radiation is a leading cause of nonmelanoma cancer.

Melanoma is the deadlier of the two, responsible for 4 percent of skin-cancer diagnoses but 75 percent of all skin-cancer deaths. Most doctors believe that excessive exposure to the sun (even in relatively short, intense bursts) and, consequently, to UV radiation are the major risk factors for melanoma. Studies have shown that the more sunburns you've had in your life, the higher your chance of developing the disease. However, the exact causes of the disease aren't fully understood. People who doubt the sun-cancer link point to the fact that melanoma can sometimes appear in areas that get zero sun exposure, such as the bowels and the soles of the feet. They also note that melanoma is more common among indoor than outdoor workers, though other doctors counter that this is because cubicle dwellers are more likely to go on vacations where they spend hours baking in the sun.
Along with its full-page ad, the Indoor Tanning Association submitted a letter to the Times that attempted to substantiate the health claims, sentence-by-sentence. However, the evidence provided is rather selective: For example, the paper from the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences that the ITA uses to provide sole support for its claim that "the benefits of moderate exposure to sunlight outweigh the hypothetical risks" also concedes that "solar radiation is the main cause of skin cancers." Meanwhile, indoor tanning isn't any safer than outdoor sunbathing—in fact, the FDA notes that it may be more dangerous, since tanning-bed users expose their entire bodies at once to a uniform amount of UV radiation. The American Academy of Dermatology has called for a ban on all indoor tanning equipment used for nonmedical purposes.
Got a question about today's news? Ask the Explainer .
Explainer thanks Marie-France Demierre of the Boston University School of Medicine, and Sarah Longwell and Justin Wilson of the Indoor Tanning Association.

Is sunbathing good for you? Or does it cause skin cancer? - By Nina Shen Rastogi - Slate Magazine
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Old March 28th, 2008, 05:43 PM   #44 (permalink)
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Thanks Mooms. I'm aware of the Vitamin D link to cancer and recently upped my D intake with Cod Liver Oil to compensate for my very limited sun exposure. I'll let my extremities get some sun for a few minutes earlier in the day in warmer weather but I will never ever give up using sunscreen always on my face, neck, chest and hands. It's kept me looking at least a decade younger than my peers.
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Old March 28th, 2008, 07:01 PM   #45 (permalink)
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Australia is the melanoma capital of the world. 40,000 new cases every year. Docs don't take any chances with suspicious moles and remove them anyway because if it IS malignant it's one of the quickest and nastiest cancers of them all that spreads like wildfire to other parts of the body. Yet people insist on laying on the beach frying in the sun for hours on end or go to tanning salons which can be even more dangerous. If you are a "moley" person like me you should check your moles regularly and if you notice any changes go and see a doctor.

If you are a tanning fan, read this:
Clare Oliver - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
i was about to say that Australians should be experts on this.. it is a nasty cancer which is why i don't understand the fascination with sunbaking and tanning salons.. you'd have to be nuts to want to risk it
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