June 26th, 2007, 12:46 PM
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Me too! For sure, if someone killed my kid, I would do whatever I could to make that person suffer horribly before I killed them slowly. And then I'd spend the rest of my life in prison telling you I would do it again in a heartbeat. What would I have left to live for if my kid was dead? I don't want to say that I think about that scenario all the time, but when I hear of the horrible deaths that kids suffer I can't help but imagine it happening to my son and what I'd do.
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^^ITA. I honestly wouldn't give a damn what the justice system did to me for taking out the murderer of my child. When someone has nothing to lose, they are seriously dangerous. God forbid, I saw my child like that. Someone would have to pay dearly. When I died, I would make a pit stop in hell to find them and kick ass all over again.
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June 26th, 2007, 12:53 PM
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In my criminology courses, we studied a lot of violent crime and the psychology behind it. A fair number of murder-suicides that also involve the deaths of children are perpetrated by women because they believe that their children cannot live without them. A fair number of male-perpetrated murder-suicides involve only the spouse and not the children because the spouse is seen as the problem, not the kids. This is not to say that there aren't cases that don't "break the rules." Clearly, there are women who kill themselves and their husbands but not the kids (Bree Hartman for example) and men who take out their entire family and themselves. There are both men and women who kill their families but not themselves. It's sick and disturbing either way.
For some reason, because of the "bizarre" comment by the investigator and the family crisis that Benoit was reported to leave because of, I am inclined to believe his wife killed the son, panicked and called him, and then he killed her and maybe had some kind of psychotic break that caused him to wait a day before killing himself.
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June 26th, 2007, 12:55 PM
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In my criminology courses, we studied a lot of violent crime and the psychology behind it. A fair number of murder-suicides that also involve the deaths of children are perpetrated by women because they believe that their children cannot live without them. A fair number of male-perpetrated murder-suicides involve only the spouse and not the children because the spouse is seen as the problem, not the kids. This is not to say that there aren't cases that don't "break the rules." Clearly, there are women who kill themselves and their husbands but not the kids (Bree Hartman for example) and men who take out their entire family and themselves. There are both men and women who kill their families but not themselves. It's sick and disturbing either way.
For some reason, because of the "bizarre" comment by the investigator and the family crisis that Benoit was reported to leave because of, I am inclined to believe his wife killed the son, panicked and called him, and then he killed her and maybe had some kind of psychotic break that caused him to wait a day before killing himself.
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And some women and men kill the kid because they know that is THE most hurtful thing they can do to the other parent...
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June 26th, 2007, 12:56 PM
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I Want To Know What Happened.....
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June 26th, 2007, 01:00 PM
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And some women and men kill the kid because they know that is THE most hurtful thing they can do to the other parent...
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Very true. There are a myriad of situations that could have played out that resulted this way. I can't even imagine hurting my child or what I would do to someone who hurts her, even if it was my husband. It's just unfathomable.
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June 26th, 2007, 01:02 PM
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Very true. There are a myriad of situations that could have played out that resulted this way. I can't even imagine hurting my child or what I would do to someone who hurts her, even if it was my husband. It's just unfathomable.
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to me, that's the worst part. I hope that the poor kid never saw that one of parents (whichever one) was going to kill him. I hope to god that it was quick and painless. That was one of the things about Andrea Yates that bothered me the most. Listening to her talk about the kids fight her while she was trying to drown them.
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June 26th, 2007, 01:05 PM
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Sadly, the boy was seven. He probably fought like hell and if he didn't I'd venture to think he was sedated or somehow unconscious when whichever parent killed. Damn pregnancy hormones have gotten me all choked up even thinking about it.
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June 26th, 2007, 01:09 PM
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ATLANTA - Pro wrestler Chris Benoit strangled his wife and smothered his son before hanging himself in his weight room, a law enforcement official close to the investigation told The Associated Press Tuesday.
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The official spoke on the condition of anonymity.
Authorities also said they are investigating whether steroids may have been a factor in the deaths of Benoit, his wife and their 7-year-old son who were found dead in an apparent murder-suicide.
Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard said test results may not be back for weeks or even months.
Autopsies were scheduled Tuesday by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation in DeKalb County.
This is a breaking news update. Check back soon for further information. AP's earlier story is below.
FAYETTEVILLE, Ga. (AP) — Pro wrestler Chris Benoit canceled a pay-per-view appearance at the "Vengeance" event in Houston because of "personal reasons" a day before he, his wife and their 7-year-old son were found dead in an apparent murder-suicide.
Details of the deaths "are going to prove a little bizarre" when released to the public, Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard told the Atlanta Journal-Constitution. Autopsies were scheduled Tuesday by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.
Authorities were investigating the deaths at a secluded Fayette County home as a murder-suicide and were not seeking any suspects.
Investigators believe Benoit (pronounced ben-WAH) killed his wife, 43-year-old Nancy, and son Daniel during the weekend and then himself Monday. The bodies were found Monday afternoon in three separate rooms of the house, off a gravel road about two miles from the Whitewater Country Club.
Ballard told The Associated Press a gun was not used in any of the deaths, but he would not say how the three died.
"We're pretty sure we know, but we want to confirm it with the crime lab," Ballard said early Tuesday.
Fayette County Coroner C.J. Mowell did not return calls seeking comment. The answering service for his funeral home said he was out of town.
Authorities also declined to say whether drugs or steroids were found inside the house. "We're not releasing any information as far as what was located inside the house," sheriff's Sgt. Keith Whiteside said Tuesday.
Asked about the condition of the interior of the house, Whiteside said investigators found "nothing really out of the ordinary." He said Benoit was found in the home's weight room, his wife in an office and the son in an upstairs bedroom.
Whiteside said toxicology tests could take up to a week or longer to complete.
Neighbors said the Benoits led a low-key lifestyle.
"They were nice," said Lorre Jones, who lives across the street. Her daughter Alaina said: "We would see Chris walking in his yard from time to time. He wasn't rude, but he wasn't really outwardly warm."
Jimmy Baswell, who was Benoit's driver for more than five years, placed a white wreath at the Benoits' gate Tuesday.
"I saw him with his family all the time," said Baswell. "They always seemed like they were the happiest people."
World Wrestling Entertainment said on its Web site that it asked authorities to check on Benoit and his family after being alerted by friends who received "several curious text messages sent by Benoit early Sunday morning."
The WWE, based in Stamford, Conn., said it had been asked by authorities not to release further information on the deaths.
Benoit, born in Montreal, was a former world heavyweight champion, Intercontinental champion and held several tag-team titles. His names in the ring included "The Canadian Crippler."
"WWE extends its sincerest thoughts and prayers to the Benoit family's relatives and loved ones in this time of tragedy," the company said in a statement on its Web site.
Benoit had maintained a home in metro Atlanta from the time he wrestled for the defunct World Championship Wrestling. The Fayette County Tax Assessors Office lists the value of the house, situated on more than 8.5 acres, at nearly $900,000.
The WWE canceled its live "Monday Night RAW" card in Corpus Christi, Texas, and USA Network aired a three-hour tribute to Benoit in place of the scheduled wrestling telecast.
Benoit's wife managed several wrestlers and went by the stage name "Woman." They met when her then-husband drew up a script that had them involved in a relationship as part of a story line on World Championship Wrestling, the newspaper said.
Benoit has two other children from a prior relationship.
Benoit became a standout at an early age among wrestling prospects who trained in the dungeon basement of the house where fellow Canadians and professional wrestlers Owen and Bret Hart trained. Owen Hart was killed during a wrestling event in 1999.
"He was like a family member to me, and everyone in my family is taking it real hard," said Bret Hart, a five-time champion with the World Wrestling Federation. The federation has since changed its name to World Wrestling Entertainment.
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Associated Press writers Greg Bluestein and Jason Bronis contributed to this report.
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June 26th, 2007, 01:10 PM
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They are saying he killed both:
This just in from CNN:
ATLANTA (AP) -- Pro wrestler Chris Benoit strangled his wife and smothered his son before hanging himself in his weight room, a law enforcement official close to the investigation told The Associated Press Tuesday.
The official spoke on the condition of anonymity.
Authorities also said they are investigating whether steroids may have been a factor in the deaths of Benoit, his wife and their 7-year-old son who were found dead in an apparent murder-suicide.
Fayette County District Attorney Scott Ballard said test results may not be back for weeks or even months.
Autopsies were scheduled Tuesday by the Georgia Bureau of Investigation in DeKalb County.
Investigators believe Benoit (pronounced ben-WAH) killed his wife, 43-year-old Nancy, and son Daniel during the weekend and then himself Monday. The bodies were found Monday afternoon in three separate rooms of the house, off a gravel road about two miles from the Whitewater Country Club.
Fayette County Coroner C.J. Mowell did not return calls seeking comment. The answering service for his funeral home said he was out of town.
Authorities also declined to say whether drugs or steroids were found inside the house. "We're not releasing any information as far as what was located inside the house," sheriff's Sgt. Keith Whiteside said Tuesday.
Asked about the condition of the interior of the house, Whiteside said investigators found "nothing really out of the ordinary." He said Benoit was found in the home's weight room, his wife in an office and the son in an upstairs bedroom.
Whiteside said toxicology tests could take up to a week or longer to complete.
Neighbors said the Benoits led a low-key lifestyle.
"They were nice," said Lorre Jones, who lives across the street. Her daughter Alaina said: "We would see Chris walking in his yard from time to time. He wasn't rude, but he wasn't really outwardly warm."
Jimmy Baswell, who was Benoit's driver for more than five years, placed a white wreath at the Benoits' gate Tuesday.
"I saw him with his family all the time," said Baswell. "They always seemed like they were the happiest people."
World Wrestling Entertainment said on its Web site that it asked authorities to check on Benoit and his family after being alerted by friends who received "several curious text messages sent by Benoit early Sunday morning."
The WWE, based in Stamford, Conn., said it had been asked by authorities not to release further information on the deaths.
Benoit, born in Montreal, was a former world heavyweight champion, Intercontinental champion and held several tag-team titles. His names in the ring included "The Canadian Crippler."
"WWE extends its sincerest thoughts and prayers to the Benoit family's relatives and loved ones in this time of tragedy," the company said in a statement on its Web site.
Benoit had maintained a home in metro Atlanta from the time he wrestled for the defunct World Championship Wrestling. The Fayette County Tax Assessors Office lists the value of the house, situated on more than 8.5 acres, at nearly $900,000.
The WWE canceled its live Monday Night RAW card in Corpus Christi, Texas, and USA Network aired a three-hour tribute to Benoit in place of the scheduled wrestling telecast.
Benoit's wife managed several wrestlers and went by the stage name "Woman." They met when her then-husband drew up a script that had them involved in a relationship as part of a story line on World Championship Wrestling, the newspaper said.
Benoit has two other children from a prior relationship.
Benoit became a standout at an early age among wrestling prospects who trained in the dungeon basement of the house where fellow Canadians and professional wrestlers Owen and Bret Hart trained. Owen Hart was killed during a wrestling event in 1999.
"He was like a family member to me, and everyone in my family is taking it real hard," said Bret Hart, a five-time champion with the World Wrestling Federation. The federation has since changed its name to World Wrestling Entertainment.
Copyright 2007 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
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June 26th, 2007, 01:12 PM
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Roid rage. This won't be the first or last victim of it.
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June 26th, 2007, 01:14 PM
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Jesus. You have to wonder what set him off, how much steroids may have had to do with it, if he had some kind of psychotic episode or what.
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June 26th, 2007, 01:15 PM
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I just heard that, too. That he killed the son and wife and then killed himself...seems like he hung around in the house with the dead bodies before he killed himself...
Sad truth is that we will never know exactly what happened or why. It's a sad, sad situation.
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June 26th, 2007, 01:16 PM
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Bastard if you want to off yourself fine, but damn don't kill your wife or child.
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June 26th, 2007, 01:18 PM
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^^ The wrestling industry has long been under scrutiny for overuse of roids. Compare before and after pics of some of those wrestlers and the difference in musculature is almost impossible to believe.
Throw in all the injuries and you have roid and narcotics being abused by the same body. Several wrestlers have died due to roid rage. One, can't remember the name now, died when he went on a roid rage rampage and took drugs while having it. It took over half a dozen cops to bring him down and he died nude in a hotel. He hurt many of the cops in the process.
If they don't go out violently, heart attacks take them out before 45.
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June 26th, 2007, 01:30 PM
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If he left a suicide note, I wonder if they will release the contents....
I am asuming that there WAS one, otherwise, how do they know for SURE that he killed both of them???
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