Woody Allen and wife Soon-YI - Page 5

Classic Broad · December 1st, 2005, 06:09 PM

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Well what would you expect to read in HER autobiography?? Anything NICE about Woody Allen???

Mia Farrow didn't pull this entire thing of thing out of thin air; Woody and Soon Yi are MARRIED.
She didn't have to write anything nice OR "not-nice" about him.....the events speak for themselves......Woody Allen can't deny what happened between him and Soon Yi when she was 17 and living under Mia's roof.

WickedHo · December 1st, 2005, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Classic Broad

Mia Farrow didn't pull this entire thing of thing out of thin air; Woody and Soon Yi are MARRIED.
She didn't have to write anything nice OR "not-nice" about him.....the events speak for themselves......Woody Allen can't deny what happened between him and Soon Yi when she was 17 and living under Mia's roof.

Yeah, but were you there to verify the veracity of Mia's word, these events of which you speak? I doubt it.

Classic Broad · December 1st, 2005, 06:14 PM

That's just my point. It isn't Mia's word against Woody's.
He has never denied any of it and he and Soon Yi are married. What else needs to be said?
It's no secret.

WickedHo · December 1st, 2005, 06:45 PM

^^ I was specifically thinking of the allegation of child molestation, put forth by Mia. That accusation is to be taken with a grain of salt by us regular folk.

Classic Broad · December 1st, 2005, 07:16 PM

The courts who reviewed the custody arrangements for Woody's daughter ordered supervised vistation ONLY. There was plenty of evidence there.....besides, is it that much of a stretch, after he takes porno pics of Soon Yi at 17 to believe he's capable of hitting on children even younger?
The court was appalled at Woody Allen.

WickedHo · December 1st, 2005, 08:40 PM

^^ See, that's what I mean about his relationship with her being sick and wrong! It is SO SICK and SO WRONG to have nude pix of your girlfriend's MINOR-AGE CHILD, the one to whom you're suppose to be A FATHER-FIGURE! It just makes me wonder if Soon-Yi was ever molested by an older man and thus equates sexual attention with love, which she was so clearly in need of.

politesse · December 1st, 2005, 09:57 PM

What I can't past is that Soon-Yi goes to bed with this wrinkly ,fugly old man. Puke!!!

Titania · December 2nd, 2005, 05:16 AM

of course there are laws against child abuse!
but why are ther laws against it? just because many adults are very attracted by underage girls and boys, that's why....the attraction towards pubescent bodies is well documented, and it's a biologic truth that after puberty a human being is perfectly capable of breeding, so to speak!
now, the fact that our culture has the taboo of underage people mating with other underage people or, much worse, the exploitation of an underage by an adult, is an accepted law that we don't want to see broken!
but this will never erase the attractoin that the average man has to a blossoming young girl, because she's so full of life, etc...I personally know many 40-something men deliberately serching the company of 20-something women, specifically because"they're so fresh and they never complain "

do I think this is brilliant? not particularly, but I see the point!and I have plenty of gay friends, and they definitely prefer the young and beautiful, I tell you!
this is the reality of life....of course laws must defend children, of course! and that's because they can be too attractive!
yes, woody always liked his ladies young, but a 17 years old girl is not the same as a 4 years old baby, sorry, not the same!
anyway, I feel that Americans and Europeans have very different meaning on this particular case, have you noticed? woody is beloved in Italy and in France, not so much in the US

phishtickie · December 2nd, 2005, 05:38 AM

I just agree with Titania..

calendargurl · December 2nd, 2005, 05:38 AM

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I feel that Americans and Europeans have very different meaning on this particular case, have you noticed? woody is beloved in Italy and in France, not so much in the US

b/c the US is run by a bunch of close-minded twats. i'm not saying what he did isnt weird but the US needs to loosen it's tie a bit.

phishtickie · December 2nd, 2005, 05:41 AM

that seems true... We are talking about a country, in which a lot of people (and I put it mildly) were OUTRAGED by Nicolette Sheridans naked BACK. Oh my god the horror

What a load of bullshit...

buttmunch · December 2nd, 2005, 06:21 AM

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Woody Allen can't deny what happened between him and Soon Yi when she was 17 and living under Mia's roof.

Actually, they don't know Soon Yi's real age. She was an orphan and they gave her an approximate age. She was said to have been 19-21. As far as the chold molestation charges, I was always highly suspicious about that. One of the things used to bring the case was the fact that he put his head on his little girls lap while stroking her leg. Once I had kids, I realized that that is pretty normal parent behavior. I put my hands and head all over my kids but it isn't sexual by any stretch of the imagination. It's affection.

**by the way, Mia and Woody never married. And remember, she continued to try and work things out and make movies with him AFTER she found out about the affair.

calendargurl · December 2nd, 2005, 06:45 AM

even if she was only 17 she was still old enough to make her own choices....if she didnt like him touching her 'special places' then she shoulda smacked him and said ' get the f*** off me you bastard! '. obviously there was no problem on her side. and i thought 17 was the age where they say you're old enough to have consensual sex....like where it wouldnt be molestation anymore...but the parents could in theory sue you for statutory rape.

moomies · December 2nd, 2005, 07:07 AM

I don't know if anyone has mentioned this b4 but I think Woody definitely has the "Lolita" complex... (if you've read the book or seen the movie, you'd know what I mean)

IMHO, what Woody has done is morally wrong considering, as many of you have said, that he was a FATHER FIGURE at one point in Soon Yi's life.

But logically, biologically and legally speaking, yes men can fall in love with women much younger, yes Woody and Soon Yi are not biologically related, yes Soon Yi was 17 and their relationship was concentual ( but I don't know all the details whether they were already having sex thus quialfying for statutory rape etc).

But then again, if you consider this Lolita complex, there must have been some emotional and sexual manipulation going on, on either side (perhaps more likely Woody's side but who knows).
I would say that this kind of behaviour is abnormal and morally wrong.

MrsDark · December 2nd, 2005, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by calendargurl

even if she was only 17 she was still old enough to make her own choices....if she didnt like him touching her 'special places' then she shoulda smacked him and said ' get the f*** off me you bastard! '. obviously there was no problem on her side. and i thought 17 was the age where they say you're old enough to have consensual sex....like where it wouldnt be molestation anymore...but the parents could in theory sue you for statutory rape.

Honestly that sounds easy enough to say or do when you're grown. But I remember what it was like to be 17. I was intelligent and very mature for my age as compared to my peers, but emotionally? Well, let's just say that someone Woody's age, sophistication and with his way with words probably could have convinced me of anything. And as far as I know the age of consent is 18 here in the U.S. So if for no other reason than that, he and other men should have leave the girls this age alone. If you really want/love a person bad enough, what's a few years? Especially when you're a grown adult for whom years fly by. you're only young for a very short period of your life relative to the whole, and this girl's youth was wasted IMO and Woody's selfishness was a big reason. I don't feel comfortable calling him a pedophile, but the Lolita complex is there for sure! But like someone else said, that's why there are laws against fucking teenagers! I realize lots of others on here from countries where the age of consent is lower have less of a problem seeing this girl as old enough to know what she was doing. If it were just an attraction and/or love affair that was a part of one of her learning experiences I could even see it. I remember myself at that age. Like I mentioned earlier, I was more mature than most of my peers. I could relate to people much older than myself easier than most of my peers. Many of my friends or people I found attractive at that age were older. Looking back, If I'd been less intelligent with the ones I did know who found me attractive to the point where it could have gone further than friendship, or unfortunate enough to know an older man with Woody's savvy, I probably could have been really taken advantage of too. I also have a huge problem with the fact that she was the daughter of a woman he was involved with at the time he formed his attraction. I find that pretty despicable in itself no matter had she been 5 or 10 years older. Even as a teen, if I'd become so infatuated of an older man, even one in a not so great relationship with my mom, it would affect my level of respect and attraction for him if he were so easily able to carry on with me (and not necessarily physical) while still with her. And even though my mom and I went through hard times and issues when I was in the teens, I'd like to think I would never want her to be hurt in that way on account of the selfishness of me or an adult who should be even better able to exercise self-restraint.

Sorry so long. Just had a lot of thoughts on this one this morning after rereading it.