Woody Allen and wife Soon-YI

[Elvira]

from en.wikipedia.org

Soon-Yi Previn

Soon-Yi Previn a.k.a. Soon-Yi Farrow (October 8, 1970— ) is a Korean-American woman who is the adopted daughter of Mia Farrow and conductor André Previn. She is also an actress. Her husband is the legendary director Woody Allen.

Born in South Korea, Soon-Yi Previn came into the national spotlight in 1992 when it was revealed she was having an affair with her mother's long-time romantic partner, Woody Allen. Mia Farrow uncovered the affair when she found nude photographs of her daughter taken by Woody Allen in his apartment. As Soon-Yi was seventeen years old at the time, there was some speculation as to whether statutory rape charges should be filed. Mia Farrow did eventually file child abuse charges against Allen, but involving her other daughter, Dylan.

This romance was the object of many tabloid newspaper articles and much press coverage. Many members of the public reacted negatively towards the affair, not only because of her relation to Allen's long-time partner, but also because of the considerable age difference between Soon-Yi and Allen, who is 35 years older than Soon-Yi.

Soon-Yi and Allen married in 1997 in Venice, Italy. They have two adopted daughters, Bechet Allen and Manzie Tio Allen, both named after jazz musicians (Sidney Bechet and Manzie Johnson). In a 2005 Vanity Fair interview, Allen described their relationship as having a "more paternal feeling".

Soon-Yi received a master's degree in special education from Columbia University.
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Soon-Yi was 17 years old at the time the naked photos were taken. I think that his interest in her began well before that. It seems unlikely that his interest in her began at 17 and he immediately took naked photos of her.

[Bellatheball]

Didn't he have some borderline pornographic photos of her though as a very young woman? That's what's always creeped me out.

[Bellatheball]

Oops, sorry Elvira, I must have missed your post!

[phishtickie]

17 is still not a CHILD, ya know, and it is still NOT paedophilia!

[calendargurl]

i consider 17 as still being a child.

[Titania]

Originally Posted by pacific breeze

I am just curious to how you would react if you were in a long-term relationship with a man and your adopted daughter, whom your "husband" knew since she was 10, conducted a clandestine affair with the girl under your roof? I am absolutely positive you would feel just as kind and understanding toward her and him as you do toward Woody and Soon-Li. And most marriages hit dry spells -- does that mean everybody should immediately throw in the towel and start dating children instead?

Allen has a long, long reptuation of being attracted and dating women still in their teen years -- kinda odd for a normal grown man, don't you think? He's not the only man to do this, but he's done it a LOT. Remember Mariel Hemingway?

I used to like his movies, but even before the Soon-Yi scandal, he was going downhill as an artist. I met/interviewed him at a movie junket for Bullets over Broadway and he had the limpest, wettest handshake I've ever felt. And I've probably shaken as many hands as a politician, and people with those kinds of limp shakes are always odd. He was also just physically strange, and emanated a very creepy vibe. Ugh...I was weirded out at the time, and I still am.

good point about discovering a relationship like that, but you know what? I don't think I'd be surprised at all since I know many men that are obviously attracted by young blossoming girls, I think it's kind of "natural" that a man look for the most "fertile" of women and a woman in her teens is at her most fertile, full of fresh estrogen....we're used to consider such things as tobbo now, but the reality of our animal nature is that human beings are designed to mate as soon as we hit the hormonal change, so girls after they develop and get periods are immediatly "visible" to male in that unmistakebly sexually way...this is how nature works...
I read a couple of bio regarding our woody, one positive and the other very negative about him, and I can try to guess since I never met the man....he's the typical artist, very egotistic, very in his world and he actually does what he likes, I totally believe that he gave you that creepy vibe, but I bet that our mia farrow isn't very pleasant either....just my guess....
what I'm saying is that he's a good director and I wold not put him in the same category of Jackson, who is simply a disturbed man and a real pedophile...17 years old is very young but you're not a kid anymore
of course sonn and woody behaved badly towards mia farrow! but what they did is not so incredibly murderous, in my opinion
he simply found a mate in an environment he already knew (not classy, not good, but so typical) and she found the ticket to escape a situation she probably hated (again, not classy, but it happens)...I know many couples where the guy is married with his ex-fiancè's sister and similar, are we so really surprised? woody was not soon-yi's father, by the way

[darksithbunny]

I ask if one thought if Michael Jackson was a pedophile to help ID what a ped is. But there is no use to trying to have a conversation with you. You have already put a "label" on me. That I see black and white. I just know what the laws are in my country and I back them 100%.

If my teenage daughter had a grown man trying to come after her, he wouldn't see the next day. Simple enough.

Yes, Maybe 100 or some odd years ago it wasn't looked at in that manner but people didn't live past 35! We have adapted to our longer lifespan.

Like I said before, he gives me the creeps and there is something just not right about him. I feel sorry for the girls involved.

[buttmunch]

does anyone remember that his child bride is also a little mentally slow? he is so slimy.

Mia Farrow said that after she became the woman scorned. She's also kind of an asshole in this whole thing. She turned both thier biological and adopted kid against him. She even changed thier names. Who changes a four year olds name? And she stole André Previn from his wife while living with them and pretty much acting as a de facto nanny to thier kids. What comes around goes around.

[Titania]

Originally Posted by buttmunch

Mia Farrow said that after she became the woman scorned. She's also kind of an asshole in this whole thing. She turned both thier biological and adopted kid against him. She even changed thier names. Who changes a four year olds name? And she stole André Previn from his wife while living with them and pretty much acting as a de facto nanny to thier kids. What comes around goes around.

I second that...farrow involved poor daughter Dylan trying to build up evidence that Allen had been molesting her, just out of revenge she's not a well lady!
farrow was a "baby" wife herself...what Allen did was in very poor taste, true, very poor taste and no one can deny that, but this is not enough to consider him a pedophile, he's just a man attracted by way younger women
he regards his own brains as totally superior and he's very sincere about that, this makes him surely not nice but I personally don't care very much if he's nice or not! I simply think he's a smart and accomplished comedian with many good movies under his belt
he's a piece of shit? what then? I'll never meet him, I don't really care if his wife is 35 years his senior, actually these kinds of relationship can be very successfull! good for them!
mia farrow gat her revenge in a very exaggerated manner, just my opinion! They were all classless, if you ask me!

[Classic Broad]

Mia Farrow is not the culprit here to put it mildly.
Have any of you read her autobiography?
Woody Allen acted as Soon Yi's father for years.
He may have not been her biological Dad but he was playing the paternal role in her life. Sort of an unofficial stepdad in the Allen-Farrow homes.
What he did was sick and perverted.
He also was inappropriate with his own daughter. Mia wasn't behind that. She was trying to protect her child from a pedophile.
No wonder Woody says his relationship with Soon Yi is "paternal", because that's exactly was it started out being. He was a Father to her.

[WickedHo]

Originally Posted by phishtickie

He is not a pedophile for gods sake... She was not a child when they got together! He was not HIS child at all! I dont think the word pedophile should be slung about that simply.. There was no reason for him not to be able to adopt.

Woody Allen is dangerously close to being an ephebophile.

Ephebophilia, from the Greek έφηβος (ephebos) "adolescent" and φιλία (philia) "love/friendship", is a sexual preference or orientation in which an adult is primarily or exclusively sexually attracted to adolescents.

I still say: His relationship with Soon-Yi is sick and wrong.

[sputnik]

Originally Posted by Titania

good point about discovering a relationship like that, but you know what? I don't think I'd be surprised at all since I know many men that are obviously attracted by young blossoming girls, I think it's kind of "natural" that a man look for the most "fertile" of women and a woman in her teens is at her most fertile, full of fresh estrogen....we're used to consider such things as tobbo now, but the reality of our animal nature is that human beings are designed to mate as soon as we hit the hormonal change, so girls after they develop and get periods are immediatly "visible" to male in that unmistakebly sexually way...this is how nature works...
I read a couple of bio regarding our woody, one positive and the other very negative about him, and I can try to guess since I never met the man....he's the typical artist, very egotistic, very in his world and he actually does what he likes, I totally believe that he gave you that creepy vibe, but I bet that our mia farrow isn't very pleasant either....just my guess....
what I'm saying is that he's a good director and I wold not put him in the same category of Jackson, who is simply a disturbed man and a real pedophile...17 years old is very young but you're not a kid anymore
of course sonn and woody behaved badly towards mia farrow! but what they did is not so incredibly murderous, in my opinion
he simply found a mate in an environment he already knew (not classy, not good, but so typical) and she found the ticket to escape a situation she probably hated (again, not classy, but it happens)...I know many couples where the guy is married with his ex-fiancè's sister and similar, are we so really surprised? woody was not soon-yi's father, by the way

that's exactly the way i see it as well.

[Classic Broad]

I still say: His relationship with Soon-Yi is sick and wrong.

Completely agree.
What's even sicker is that anyone would allow him to adopt a child.
I love his movies but that doesn't blind me to the fact that he is a pedophile.

[phishtickie]

Originally Posted by Classic Broad

Mia Farrow is not the culprit here to put it mildly.
Have any of you read her autobiography?
Woody Allen acted as Soon Yi's father for years.
He may have not been her biological Dad but he was playing the paternal role in her life. Sort of an unofficial stepdad in the Allen-Farrow homes.
What he did was sick and perverted.
He also was inappropriate with his own daughter. Mia wasn't behind that. She was trying to protect her child from a pedophile.
No wonder Woody says his relationship with Soon Yi is "paternal", because that's exactly was it started out being. He was a Father to her.

So you read that in **HER** autobiography??
Well what would you expect to read in HER autobiography?? Anything NICE about Woody Allen???
I think that the mistake here is to actually attempt and compare OUR lives to the lives of the rich and famous. I mean, I know of course how I would feel in real life, but these people are not exactly your every day average people..

[pacific breeze]

^^ That doesn't make it any less true.

Farrow is a bit of a head case, no doubt about it. All parties behaved badly in the aftermath, but that doesn't change what Woody did.

I know he is not Soon-Yi's birth father, Tatiana, but let's get real -- he was a father figure at the very least.

Woody has a well-documented history of this sort of thing, and that is also undeniable. If some people are comfortable with that, fine.

I just know it makes me queasy and I wouldn't leave any young girl I know alone in his company. As for the fertility thing...c'mon! There are laws against that you know. Men can't just do it with anyone they fancy just because they find them fertile. That's like a rapist, child molester saying, "I have needs/urges I can't control." You wouldn't buy it in a court of law, why is it OK in this instance?