Rosie O'Donnell and her people are losing it - Page 6

Elvira · May 26th, 2007, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Mira

^But the whole thing is that Rosie is not an actor right now. She has been in the past but she's a talk show host. She's supposed to state her opinion and get conversations going. And get ratings.

^

That's why the show is named "The View".

Alicia should not be asked back to the show. I don't care for Elisabeth
but it's so childish and rude to snub the co-host of the show.

joy0923 · May 26th, 2007, 02:35 PM

RevellingInSane
"I repsect that,(Rosie), speaks out and says what she thinks.
That is something more people should do anyway.
Hasseltrick should shut up."

How fair is that?

Zipple19 · May 26th, 2007, 05:25 PM

Why is it that when a person with conservative views speaks there mind and shares there opinions on issues people tell them to shup up and calls them names but if a libral does the same thing there applauded? I thought this was America where EVERYONE has the right to speak up and out about what they believe in without conviction? if people learned how to act like growups and learn to agree to disagree without speaking hate towards someone who has different views and believes then them there wouldn't be wars. Stop the hate and learn to be kind.

january · May 26th, 2007, 05:48 PM

I know. I always thought that was the beautiful thing about the liberal party, that they believed everyone should have a voice. But in the last few years I've become an independent. I absolutely hate how the liberal party has changed - they want everyone to "speak their mind" but only if it pertains to their viewpoint, which is exactly what revellinginsane said - otherwise, they should "shut up." I will not ever understand that mentality, in fact it really scares me. Its the one thing about the liberal party that amazingly, liberals don't understand makes them even more conservative sometimes than the people they love to hate. I wish this two-party system would just end and independents could have a voice.

RevellingInSane · May 26th, 2007, 06:16 PM

joy0923: It's been edited.

Hasselback will push push push. To be honest, she is one of the reasons I stopped watching the show. I have some conservative views myself, so that is not the issue, but, I will state my position and then let others have their say. I will not speak as if others are wrong because they do not agree. She does. She is fake. Very fake. I know her kind very well....

Grimmlok · May 26th, 2007, 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Zipple19

Why is it that when a person with conservative views speaks there mind and shares there opinions on issues people tell them to shup up and calls them names but if a libral does the same thing there applauded? I thought this was America where EVERYONE has the right to speak up and out about what they believe in without conviction? if people learned how to act like growups and learn to agree to disagree without speaking hate towards someone who has different views and believes then them there wouldn't be wars. Stop the hate and learn to be kind.

Parroting proven lies makes you look stupid, unfortunately it seems to be a hallmark of the neocon cheering section these days.

The thing is about libs vs. cons, is that generally libs arent racist, bigoted or theocratic weirdos. Cons these days tend to be.

So if you're espousing racist viers, you'll get told to shut up.

If you espouse bigoted views, you'll get told to shut up.

Beinfg conservative isnt bad unless you are the above, or if you just stick yourself on repeat and use propaganda talking points that have been proven false as an argument.

lisalucy69 · May 26th, 2007, 07:55 PM

^^^I find the same to be true about Rosie, but apparently thats okay. I don't get it. As far as it being okay that Rosie airs her opinions because its a talk show...point taken, but does that give her the right to discredit someone else who disagrees? Does that give her the right to villify those who she does not agree with? The show has taken an ugly turn since Rosie came aboard. I have no problem with her telling her point of view, it's her approach. I don't have to agree with you Rosie and neither does anyone else, so let it go. I do not need you to be my moral compass, thanks, but i can handle this myself. I agree that some pretty stupid shit comes out of EH's mouth as well, there's no denying it. But EH is just as entitled to her opinions and does not deserve to be "put in her place any more or less than Rosie. Aren't liberals for individual freedom, tolerance, and open mindedness? Or does that only apply if you agree with their views? Rosie sounds like a close minded bully more than a liberal. I personally don't subscribe to the practice of being conservative or liberal, democrat or republican. I agree and disagree with both sides of just about every coin. I listen and make my own decisions like everyone should. I appreciate that anyone would share their personal beliefs with me, but don't try to change my mind by telling me my beliefs are wrong or askew.

Grimmlok · May 26th, 2007, 07:57 PM

LOL she's entitled to her opinion but everyone else is entitled to the opinion that what she's saying is factually incorrect, and thus worth being derided.

If she could argue intelligently, it would be different.. but Hasselbeck can't. She's like Ann Coulter, full of wind but very VERY few facts that can be substantiated or that have been proven to be utterly false.

lisalucy69 · May 26th, 2007, 08:12 PM

EH is not the only person in the world basing their opinions on stupidity. Not by a long shot. And i guess i got off on a tangent by even touching on the subject of EH at all. My intent was to state that Rosie and her approach annoys me. It actually has nothing to do with her bickering with EH. My annoyance with Rosie and her rantings started way before she got near the View. She cannot seem to tolerate anyone who has an opposite opinion or view than hers.

nana55 · May 26th, 2007, 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by nwgirl

Speaking of vegan cookies. Years ago one of my co-workers brought some vegan cookies to work that she made to "prove" to everyone how good vegan cooking can be. She had a little package for everyone. I tasted one and they were so gross I almost gagged, but I didn't have the heart to throw them away in front of her so I took them home to throw away.

Well my son (who was maybe six at the time) saw the packet of cookies and asked if he could have one. I said yes and didn't say anything cause I figured he'd probably like them. I mean, what kid doesn't like cookies? One bite and I honestly thought he was gonna lose his lunch. His face was all scrunched up and he looked at me and said "why'd you let me do that?" Oh - I cracked up. Now, I'm sure there are great vegan recipes/chefs out there. My co-worker just apparently didn't happen to be one.

As for Alicia, I do think she could have acted better. Part of me wonders though if it was really a snub or conscious at all. EH def looks surpised. I don't know. Even though I have a hard time being the bigger person, I think other people should be the bigger person when the opportunity arises. (Do as I say, not as I do mentality.)

There are great vegan treats. My daughter is vegan and she makes a delicious chocolate cake that many people have asked the recipe for, and fabulous pasta salads. I'm a carnivore and I love a lot of her stuff. The cinamon buns are to die for.

DoveFeatheredRaven · May 26th, 2007, 08:38 PM

Rosie may villify those who oppose her views or opinions but how is any different than what you see all over television right now? Look at all of the political pundits going after the opposing side... we don't label them bullies etc.

I still maintain if she were some hot cutie, she would not have gotten a fraction of the grief that she has. I also think if she were male, she wouldn't receive the negative press either!

Edit--r blog

See the No Jahero vid if it isn't on there.
Apparently, Janette B. did draw on E's pic. This is a very gossipy blog. lol

Bonham · May 27th, 2007, 01:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DoveFeatheredRaven

I still maintain if she were some hot cutie, she would not have gotten a fraction of the grief that she has. I also think if she were male, she wouldn't receive the negative press either!

Right on! I second that. Just look at Hillary Clinton.
So much of the criticism she receives from both men and women is because she has the audacity to be an outspoken,ambitious famous and OLDER woman who wants power without pandering to men's sexual impulses, unlike the vast majority of other famous women, who're young and hot. Hollywood actresses, supermodels, pop stars, celebutantes anyone? All famous and powerful because men want to have sex with them.
Look at Martha Stewart. Heck, even Nancy Pelosi, an older opinionated woman who won't shut up, makes a lot of people including other women , very uncomfortable.
I don't think it's any coincidence that many people find Obama to be far more attractive than Hillary, and also want to vote for him.
I think a lot of the rage against Rosie from men and women is about the audacity of this older, relatively unattractive overweight woman who dares to voice her unpopular opinions in public. There are plenty of women who loathe themselves and their femininity and believe that women need to be softspoken and pleasant and sweet all the time.
There is a huge bias, from both men AND women against older relatively unattractive women, who don't know their place.
It's very important in our American culture to know one's place.
In the case of older women, their job as assigned by our culture, is mainly to shut up ( most important), concede their status to the younger hotter babes, bake cookies, fuss over their kids and take on a benign and bovine aspect while standing by their man and enabling all his crap. Sound familiar to a prominent woman we know who is the darling of the right?

kingcap72 · May 27th, 2007, 01:34 AM

Personally, I agree with a lot of what Rosie says, but the fact is she does try to beat people over the head with her opinion, and it comes off likes she's bullying them. And in the process her message gets lost in the inevitable controversy that she helped to create. So, in that sense, Rosie is her own worst enemy.

Hasslebeck is just an ass, and that has nothing to do with her conservative views. It's the fact that she acts as if George Bush can walk on water and do no wrong, even when the facts are staring her in the face, which makes her look like an idiot.

Picara · May 27th, 2007, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by kingcap72

Hasslebeck is just an ass, and that has nothing to do with her conservative views. It's the fact that she acts as if George Bush can walk on water and do no wrong, even when the facts are staring her in the face, which makes her look like an idiot.

So true. She is so far up George Bush's ass, you can see Bitsey when he opens his mouth. I hate that about her. What's almost as bad is her devotion to Faux News. I think she watches with a notebook in her hand, writing down everything.

Rosie does come off as a bully a lot of the time. She could really work on the delivery of her opinions. Maybe she wouldn't alienate so many people. I don't think she cares what anyone thinks, at this point in her life, though. And someone must be watching, if she's getting her own show.

I think The Views ratings will go down without Ro.

KrisNine · May 27th, 2007, 12:18 PM

My problem is that anyone with a conservative view, especially a talk show host or actor, is thought of to be a solid, upstanding citizen, with strong morals and good decent Christian values. Someone from that's good and decent and speaks from the heart. Now, someone with a liberal view is somehow immoral and irresponsible. Uneducated, with no moral fiber. Anti-American and anti-family. Even dangerous. Hell, look at Ron Silver and Dennis Miller. Those are two (and I use these terms verrrrrry loosely) actors (and a comedian) that were so embraced for their views and intelligence, they were practically put on the payroll at Faux News. Actually, they may have been.

So much for wanting actors to keep their mouths shut.