JonBenet Ramsey's mother dies

[Lobelia]

Several of the points brought up by Golddust have been successfully contradicted. Such as the snow. There was not snow all around the house. It was in patches, and there are photos of this. An intruder could have easily gotten inside without leaving prints.

The information about the window being undisturbed has also been disproven.

I'm not saying the family is guilty or innocent. Like a lot of people, I have wavered. I don't think the earth is flat, but I think there is a lot of information out there that is not necessarily accurate.

HOWEVER.

I found this website last night, and I gotta say that I spent waaaaay too much time on it. It has a large compilation of information from different sources.

http://www.acandyrose.com/

I've always heard that the ransom note could not be ruled out as Patsy's handwriting. Folks, I have to admit, after seeing Patsy's handwriting compared directly -side by side- to the ransom note, ahem, it's the same writing. It's just too close not to be. Plus, you can read the 3 different reports from handwriting analysts & they all agree that she was likely the writer of the ransom note.

I'm afraid that this was enough to tip me over to the guilty camp.

The thing is, the grand jury did not indict. There have been no arrests. There is either not enough evidence, or somebody is very powerful.

[ZETAZEN]

Burke did it.

[PrettyGirl]

Two things I won't do...#1 I won't ever sleep or mess around with a married man and #2, I won't ever bad-mouth a dead person who can't defend him or (her)self.

She's dead. While she was here, no one convicted her, therefore, all I can say is that now it's up to God to judge Patsy Ramsey.

[MrsDark]

Dead or alive doesn't matter to me, fuck that evil child-whoring bitch. My atheist ass actually hopes there's a hell when I think about people like her.

[miss_stephanie]

personally, i think it was patsy, and i dont think john was involved. she just seems creepy, but saying that, there are contradicting pieces of evidence that may say otherwise. It is a very confusing cast i dont think it will ever be solved. and that bitch has probably taken that to her grave with her.

http://www.crimelibrary.com/notoriou...ey/feb_13.html

read that. its evidence supporting the intruder theory.

[PrettyGirl]

Such a horrible murder....the crime scene pics of her little body are just disgusting. The cord is wrapped so tight around JonBenet's neck...whomever did it hated her, there was so much viciousness in it. They wanted her dead. Why? How? Who? It's crazy how they never solved this case.

[Tenaj]

I remember feeling really upset when I first read about JonBenet, granted not as much has been written about it here though. The poor girl deserves the truth to be finally revealed and have the case solved once and for all.

[PrettyGirl]

I don't know who killed her, but it seems as if the parent's were egomaniacs. It does appear as if Patsy Ramsey literally lived through that child. Patsy was a former beauty queen and was all into that stuff--she wanted to make JonBenet into this perfect little princess. Even the poor child's name, look at the name they gave her from birth: JohnBenet Patricia Ramsey...she was named after them. Her first name is after her father JOHN BENET and her middle name is like her mother PATRICIA. That little girl had no identity of her own--they wanted to make her into Part II of them it seems. It's so sad. Her death would've been gruesome enough for any adult, let alone any child.

What a life for Mr. Ramsey...the oldest daughter Beth died in a car accident at the age of 21 or 22, the youngest daughter JonBenet murdered, and now the wife dies of cancer....I wonder what's going to happen to him.

[miss_stephanie]

i dont doubt patsy did it, or was involved.
but one question is,
why would she want to kill her if she ''lived through her'' if you get me?
wouldnt that be a reason not to kill her, so she could grow up into this manufacured beauty queen? why murder her?

she must either be really messed up in head, or there was a bigger problem. so sad though, poor little girl may she R.I.P

[Sojiita]

Something I read in crimelibrary.com always made me think they were covering up for their son.

ITA

[Warren]

i dont doubt patsy did it, or was involved.
but one question is,
why would she want to kill her if she ''lived through her'' if you get me?
wouldnt that be a reason not to kill her, so she could grow up into this manufacured beauty queen? why murder her?

she must either be really messed up in head, or there was a bigger problem. so sad though, poor little girl may she R.I.P

Because after reading all the responses, it seemed like JonBenet was revolting against her moms will to continue on with the pageants. Therefore that could have been the mothers motive for murder. Just a thought i would throw out there.

[GoldDust77]

Such a horrible murder....the crime scene pics of her little body are just disgusting. The cord is wrapped so tight around JonBenet's neck...whomever did it hated her, there was so much viciousness in it. They wanted her dead. Why? How? Who? It's crazy how they never solved this case.

JonBenet died of the skull fracture that was inflicted upon her. Investigators were able to determine that she was NOT strangled while she was alive. The cord was placed around her neck AFTER she was dead. That is why we know the crime scene was staged. The same with the vaginal abrasions that someone else brought up. The paintbrush (which, as someone said was from Patsy's personal art-kit--You think an intruder in the home while everyone is asleep is going to go rummaging thru an art-kit?) was shoved up JonBenet's vagina to MAKE IT LOOK LIKE she had been sexually abused--Therefore, making it look much more likely that an intruder did it. Remember, there was NO semen present on or near JonBenet, as has originally been reported. This was officially announced a few years ago. There was no sexual abuse. It was nothing more than a detail in the real murderer's (Patsy's) clever set-up to make it look, to the best most extreme way possible, that she, the mother of this child, did not do it. As for your questions highlighted in bold, i don't think there was viciousness or hatred in HOW JonBenet was killed. (Well, except for the viciousness of Patsy hitting her hard enough to cause the skull fracture--but i don't think Patsy meant to kill her.) The apparent viciousness was, like i said, set up AFTER she was already dead. I believe Patsy killed JonBenet ACCIDENTALLY--in a fit of rage. Whacked her as punishment for doing something, and JonBenet fell & slammed her head really hard into the side of the bathtub or something (that is one of the lead Police investigators theory on what happened--actually he is CONVINCED that's what happened.--There is evidence to back this up.).

i dont doubt patsy did it, or was involved.
but one question is,
why would she want to kill her if she ''lived through her'' if you get me?
wouldnt that be a reason not to kill her, so she could grow up into this manufacured beauty queen? why murder her?

she must either be really messed up in head, or there was a bigger problem. so sad though, poor little girl may she R.I.P

Like i explained above, i don't think Patsy MEANT to kill JonBenet. I believe it was an accident. She killed her accidentally after whacking her in a fit of irrational rage while punishing her for doing something. When she saw that, tragically, she had KILLED her daughter, she panicked and knew she'd be in big trouble (obviously), so she went about elaborately staging the crime scene to make it look like an intruder did it.

On another topic, like someone else pointed out, YES Patsy's handwriting absolutely matches the handwriting in the Ransom Note--with just some obvious stylistic attempts made at changing her handwriting enough so that it did NOT look like her handwriting. But changing our handwriting that much is extremely difficult, and she didn't succeed. It's definitely her handwriting. I compared the Ransom Note with some of Patsy's writing in a scrapbook. Same writing. Not only that, but the note was written on THE FAMILY'S OWN pad of paper which was kept in a kitchen drawer--why would "an intruder" be rummaging thru kitchen drawers looking for paper? Why would "an intruder" TAKE THE TIME to write a THREE-PAGE LONG note while the family is all right in the house?? An intruder would have COME PREPARED WITH the note--That note was long & extremely elaborate. An intruder, with ALL THOSE THINGS TO SAY, would have written it before *he went to the house to kill JonBenet*.--An intruder would want to get in and out of that house as QUICKLY as possible, with the family all right there in the house. And, very tellingly, The Police found 2 pages where the writer of the note began to write two "practice notes"....They said it was obvious the writer was practicing, to perfect their "disguised handwriting". WHY would an intruder need to practice "perfecting his handwriting"???? That's completely ludicrous. WHY would an intruder, under major time constraints & worry that one of the family members would come down to the kitchen for something to eat or whatever, take the time to do that? And he would have NO reason to disguise his writing if he were some random intruder. The fact that Patsy wrote the note, is Piece of Evidence Number 947 (just a random number i threw out--but you get the idea--there's LOTS & LOTS of evidence against Patsy) that Patsy committed the horrible crime. RIP JonBenet.

There are my personal opinions in this post. (Again, the "Cover Your Ass Clause".)

[Warren]

Gold dust are you a detective? Because your insights are amazing.

[PrettyGirl]

Okay, then I have a question. If there was all this evidence, why the hell wasn't Patsy or anyone in that family ever charged with a crime? If it's so cut and dry, WHY?!

[Lobelia]

It's really not cut & dry. For almost every piece of information/evidence, there is an opposing view or interpretation or account of it. It's one of the most emotionally charged publicly known murder cases, and it seems that almost all the evidence has been tainted. Unfortunately for John & Patsy, common sense speculation tends to lead directly to their feet. For good or bad, you're not supposed to be convicted with common sense speculation.

What Golddust is saying is exactly what thousands of other people think. This case has a massive internet subculture & it's all been discussed to pieces.