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Old June 24th, 2007, 06:36 PM   #61 (permalink)
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We're talking about someone harassing his co-worker at the workplace for being gay. I'm with Grimm on this one. It's way more acceptable to be a homophobe than it is to be a racist.
This is not just about a bunch of panty-waist liberals getting all uptight and politically correct as usual. This is about the right of every human being to be treated with dignity at the workplace.
I think that the reaction would be a whole lot different if T.R had shouted to Dempsey: I'm not your little n****r like Isaiah.
The fight was NOT about T.R. being gay. The fight started because T.R. was late. He is often late apparently. Patrick and Issah had a fight because Issah was getting pissed about T.R. holding everyone up. Just before the punches started, when Dempsey was defending T.R. Issah shouted that he was tired of waiting and that he wasn't his little faggot like T.R. He used the word, it was awful, but the fight didn't start out being an attack about T.R. being gay. I have heard that no one on set liked Issah anyway. His only defender was Sandra Oh.
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Old June 24th, 2007, 06:41 PM   #62 (permalink)
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like you didn't call someone faggot when you were a kid..
When I was a kid, faggot meant cigarette. I'm quite old. But I never called anyone "queer" either which was the term then. Of course until I was about 15, (no lie) I didn't even know there was such a thing as gay sex. I was so incredibly sheltered. I don't remember being all that shocked though.
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Old June 24th, 2007, 07:37 PM   #63 (permalink)
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I don't agree with this at all. I've yet to meet a Grey's fan who supports the decision to let IW go.

I too am in the minority here and understand where Washington is coming from. I believe the network and the show's producers took care of this situation in a really unprofessional matter and I also believe that Knight milked it for what it was. There was something always really cringe worthy when Knight and Heigl would be together talking about "the incident" and how she backs him up 100%. It really seemed like them against everyone else. Just the fact that Knight's character has changed so drastically in this season, allows me to believe that he had A LOT of control in what went on on-set and and with the future of the show.

This whole group of people need to seriously get over themselves. They were all nobody's before this show happened. The show is already being run down into the ground, I'd hate to see the end of it because the people on the set can't get over trivial shit.

I agree. As a (former) Greys fan, he was really one of the only redeemable characters on the show. I feel a bit cheated, actually. I thought this whole thing was over with, and when it turns out he was fired after the show finale, it pissed me off. He was one of the only characters that was going to make me tune in next year. Plus, I absolutely hate the way his relationship with Yang ended now, I'm still bitter. Considering how shitty the show has become, you'd think they would want to hang on to the few characters that people still are fond of.

I also don't think the word is just a word to be used lightly, at all. I wouldn't say it because I know how negative it is. But I stand by my assertion that it was something directed at Dempsey, and it was done solely out of ignorance and not out of bigotry. If it had been that big of a deal, or if he had been "throttling" someone (like someone else suggested), his ass would have been out immediately. But they did not act in good faith. And I still get a creepy bullying vibe from both Heigl and Knight, too. It seems like Heigl can't stop talking about it and stirring the pot. I really can't stand that entire cast now, except for Bailey (forget her real name, now).
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This should never have been made public and honestly, I would worry about working with cast members in the future. If they will go public with private business matters to leverage their desires into reality, no one is safe with them around.

IW may have been let go, but now, those cast members have scarred themselves. It would have been best to work it out internally instead of using this as a publicity stunt and casting chokehold.
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