Channel 4 portrays Camilla Parker-Bowles as a woman of easy virtue....

[A*O]

I know!! Old people have sex!!! Ew gross.

[cheray]

Originally Posted by A*O

I know!! Old people have sex!!! Ew gross.

Old people have sex????????????? Ya shitting me. No way.

[McJag]

Originally Posted by buttmunch

Oh! Oh! Oh! When I was in London I heard the best royal gossip ever. Apparently it IS Andy who is gay (although still lots of questions about Eddie). Here's the deal--and this came from someone very reliable--Andy's long-term gay lover was dying from AIDS, so they married him off to Fergie, who was in on the deal. When the lover died of AIDS, the royals 'exposed' Fergie in the toe-sucking incident (they knew she was taking lovers) to divert attention in case anyone was on to the story or noticed that Andy was devastated. They could explain his unhappiness at his losing his wife. Fergie and Andy are still great friends and he's not forgiven his asshat of a father for treating Fergie so badly since the divorce, since he was one of the people who hatched the whole damn thing in the first place.

Woo hoo! This is good stuff! But how come Andy didn't get AIDs & whence the two girls? They do favor him a great deal. Her,too but you can see the father there too. Anything??

[HockeyRules]

Originally Posted by A*O

That would tie in with what my Navy friend told me, including the AIDS rumours. It is interesting that Andrew hasn't been romantically linked with anyone since the divorce. He'd still be quite a catch for some upper class gal with an ambitious mother.

However, you'd think that if Fergie was 'in' on the coverup the Family would make damn sure she didn't have any reason to spill the beans but instead she was treated pretty badly, although she did deserve some of it after her appalling behaviour.

This is great & interesting stuff!

How did Fergie get chosen anyway? Wouldn't they want someone more refined or aristocratic, like Sophie? (I'm across the pond and completely clueless, so please bear with me.)

[Yoko Ono]

Originally Posted by McJag

Woo hoo! This is good stuff! But how come Andy didn't get AIDs & whence the two girls? They do favor him a great deal. Her,too but you can see the father there too. Anything??

Condoms and turkey baster maybe??

I hope someone uploads this show to youtube. I just watched a fascinating 5 part american special on Diana there. We don't get to see these shows here.

[TheMoog]

Does anyone remember when Andy was seeing Koo Stark? He had to give her up because she came with a "past".

They should have got together IMO. Koo was beautiful and carried herself with discretion and grace both during and since. Newspapers have been trying for years to get her to spill and offered her £££££££. She. won't.say.one.word.

Of course, she wasn't a virgin and had appeared in a few soft-porn movies so she was ruled out from the start......

[TheMoog]

Originally Posted by HockeyRules

This is great & interesting stuff!

How did Fergie get chosen anyway? Wouldn't they want someone more refined or aristocratic, like Sophie? (I'm across the pond and completely clueless, so please bear with me.)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah%2C_Duchess_of_York

Sarah Margaret Ferguson was born in London on 15 October 1959, a daughter of Major Ronald Ferguson and his first wife, Susan Mary Wright. She grew up at Dummer Down Farm at Dummer in Hampshire.
Sarah comes from an aristocratic background with royal Stuart ancestry. On her father's side, Sarah is a descendant of King Charles II of England from two of his illegitimate sons Charles Lennox, 1st Duke of Richmond and James Crofts "Scott". She is a great-great-granddaughter of William Montagu-Douglas-Scott, 6th Duke of Buccleuch and a great-granddaughter of Mervyn Wingfield, 8th Viscount Powerscourt. She is also a distant cousin of Princess Alice, Duchess of Gloucester, an aunt of Queen Elizabeth II.
[edit]Marriage

Sarah and Prince Andrew's romance began after some scheming to bring them together was orchestrated by Diana, Princess of Wales in 1985. Early in 1986 the couple were engaged and subsequently married in Westminster Abbey on 23 July 1986. Prince Andrew had the title of The Duke of York bestowed upon him by the Queen. Sarah automatically became Her Royal Highness The Duchess of York.
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Sarah had the aristocratic background okay. Not sure if she was a virgin but I don't think that mattered for Andy - just Charles, as he was next in line to throne....

[buttmunch]

Sarah was not a virgin as she had openly lived with a man prior to Andy, but then, she wasn't a soft porn actress either. Not sure I'd want my son to bring home a Koo Stark either.

[Novice]

Thanks Butt - I got the names all tangled but you & A*O have confirmed what I was told!
Fergie has an "interesting" background. She was on the motor-racing scene before the royal one & her party trick was to go around under the table & "smoke" all the men.....
I always thought that it was disgusting that Andy (yep, got the name right this time) wasn't allowed to "come out" over his sexuality, it would do a lot of people in this country good. (& don't get me started on whether Diana was killed because she was having Dod'is baby!!! I KNOW we have institutionalised racism here....)
I don't like the way the press hound them (or any one to be honest), but I also don't like their "dishonesty" in a lot of matters

[A*O]

Fergie was shacked up with some playboy/racing driver/ski bum (Paddy something) before she hooked up with Prince Andrew. Her father was Prince Charles' polo manager so she already moved in those circles. I am sure they relaxed the 'virgin rule' in her case because Andrew wasn't heir to the throne and finding anyone willing to be his beard was always going to be difficult. Bearing in mind the dynamite (and very lucrative) gossip she could divulge I am puzzled why she was completely cast out after the divorce but then again she's hardly going to admit she married someone she knew to be gay because it would make her look even more of an idiot.

[HockeyRules]

Originally Posted by TheMoog

Sarah, Duchess of York - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Sarah Margaret Ferguson was born in London on 15 October 1959, a daughter of Major Ronald Ferguson and his first wife, Susan Mary Wright. She grew up at Dummer Down Farm at Dummer in Hampshire.
Sarah comes from an aristocratic background with royal Stuart ancestry. On her father's side, Sarah is a descendant of King Charles II of England from two of his illegitimate sons Charles Lennox, 1st Duke of Richmond and James Crofts "Scott". She is a great-great-granddaughter of William Montagu-Douglas-Scott, 6th Duke of Buccleuch and a great-granddaughter of Mervyn Wingfield, 8th Viscount Powerscourt. She is also a distant cousin of Princess Alice, Duchess of Gloucester, an aunt of Queen Elizabeth II.
[edit]Marriage

Sarah and Prince Andrew's romance began after some scheming to bring them together was orchestrated by Diana, Princess of Wales in 1985. Early in 1986 the couple were engaged and subsequently married in Westminster Abbey on 23 July 1986. Prince Andrew had the title of The Duke of York bestowed upon him by the Queen. Sarah automatically became Her Royal Highness The Duchess of York.
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Sarah had the aristocratic background okay. Not sure if she was a virgin but I don't think that mattered for Andy - just Charles, as he was next in line to throne....

Ah, so she did have an aristocratic background. Very interesting! Thank you all for the info!

[A*O]

There been a rumour circulating for years that Prince Andrew's father isn't Prince Phillip but her horse racing manager Lord Canaervon to whom she was 'very close'. Here's an article about that and other alleged 'bastard' royals.

http://www.throneout.com/images/royal_affairs.pdf

[Novice]

LOVE the article A*O - the only problem is f they did DNA testing I think that they would find LOTS more people that should be on the list than they deleted...

Also on the number of years secrecy for documents... my Grandfathers immigration docs are covered by 75 years & as far as we can gather there's nothing remarkable in them.... just a thought....

[Reptillycus]

Yeah, old people do have sex...and (close your young eyes and cover those tender ears), it's even better than when we were young. There, I said it.

Don't know much about this Charles and Camilla thing, but it's fascinating. Charles and Camilla seem to be happily suited for each other. I do remember the tampon phone conversation. Was that real?

[Novice]

.... ad they paid for her debts after they were seperated/divorced..... bitch! her phone bill was more than my annual income at one point!!!!