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Old January 22nd, 2007, 02:16 PM   #16 (permalink)
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Like I said, the way people treat their family is an indication of their character. There are pictures of Jolie with her dad before she was famous, for example when she's 12 at the Oscars, obviously not famous there. Secondly, when she was just starting out, she made claims about being close to her dad and he was even in the tomb raider movies with her. Just because she has feelings over what went down with him and her mother, doesn't mean they didn't maintain a relationship.
Again, the way people treat their families is an idication of their character. Her mom is sick with cancer and she goes to Africa to have a baby. Yea, she's great. So, I will use her actions to slam her because I don't like what she does. And what happened with Jen and her mom is based on her mom talking to tabloids. I'm not saying Voight is/was a great father. We are both going on what is/was reported, as we really don't know the details. And angelina is a public person, so guess what? her life becomes public. So, her life can certainly be my business when I feel like it. You are on this forum like I am, and that implies that we both get some sort of entertainment out of looking at and discussing celebs, so don't act like you care about a celebs privacy.
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Old January 22nd, 2007, 02:18 PM   #17 (permalink)
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.... but I can still judge Maniston based on her fug looks, right.


... right?
Of course YOU can .... besides, would you stop if someone told you that you couldn't just based on her looks anymore??
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Old January 22nd, 2007, 02:24 PM   #18 (permalink)
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Sunshine, there are a lot of compelling reasons why she hasn't spoken to her father in years. Maybe you should acquaint yourself with them before passing judgment.

Jenn hasn't spoken to her mother in years, either, except to slap a lawsuit on her. I don't really think it's fair to attack celebs on the basis of their parental relationships.
oh c'mon PB! Let the celebutard attacks flow! Don't spoil the fun!

Plus that would mean we could not attack celebs based on their relationships with their children as well..and NO WAY will I let go of "Mommie Dearest" LOL!!
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Old January 22nd, 2007, 02:25 PM   #19 (permalink)
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Like I said, the way people treat their family is an indication of their character. There are pictures of Jolie with her dad before she was famous, for example when she's 12 at the Oscars, obviously not famous there. Secondly, when she was just starting out, she made claims about being close to her dad and he was even in the tomb raider movies with her. Just because she has feelings over what went down with him and her mother, doesn't mean they didn't maintain a relationship.
Again, the way people treat their families is an idication of their character. Her mom is sick with cancer and she goes to Africa to have a baby. Yea, she's great. So, I will use her actions to slam her because I don't like what she does. And what happened with Jen and her mom is based on her mom talking to tabloids. I'm not saying Voight is/was a great father. We are both going on what is/was reported, as we really don't know the details. And angelina is a public person, so guess what? her life becomes public. So, her life can certainly be my business when I feel like it. You are on this forum like I am, and that implies that we both get some sort of entertainment out of looking at and discussing celebs, so don't act like you care about a celebs privacy.
I haven't spoken to my mother in about 20 years, so what exactly is wrong with my character?
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Old January 22nd, 2007, 02:30 PM   #20 (permalink)
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^^I said I agreed with Aniston's reasons for not speaking to her mother, but not Angelina's with her father. I have no idea why you haven't spoken with your mother. I know why Aniston hasn't and she's a public person so I make an opinion based on what I know about her. I don't know the first thing about you or your mother so I don't have an opinion.
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Old January 22nd, 2007, 02:34 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Like I said, the way people treat their family is an indication of their character.
Apparently she's awfully close to her big brother.....
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Old January 22nd, 2007, 02:47 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Does anyone know why Voight went on television in the first place? I saw the interview and he did look pretty distressed. They seemed to be getting along when they did Tomb Raider together. I'm curious as to what happened.
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Old January 22nd, 2007, 03:45 PM   #23 (permalink)
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He went on television because he was a concerned father.

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ZAHN: In public, Jolie appeared to be the perfect diplomat. But her father says he was concerned about her private life.

VOIGHT: You see the way she talks about her sex life and the way she has gone from one marriage to another, which has been very painful to me to watch.

ZAHN: Voight says he try to talk with Jolie about her promiscuous lifestyle.

VOIGHT: As soon as she saw a conversation going in a certain direction, she would push aside. So the only way to reach her was to get her a letter that she would read, somehow fix the circumstance so she'd read it. And the essence of the letter was that I was in pain that she was exhibiting these traits and setting such an example for young people.

ZAHN: Angelina told "Vanity Fair" she found the letter hurtful and stopped talking with her father. Then, in March 2002, just after adopting her son from a Cambodian orphanage, Voight and Jolie's private problems became very public.

TODD GOLD, "PEOPLE" MAGAZINE: The adoption was done in, you know, in pretty extreme secrecy. And he, without her permission, basically told the world the news that she had become a mother. He did it in the most public of ways, in front of the press at Academy Awards time.

VOIGHT: I had heard that the baby was delivered to her. It just was in the middle of a lot of attention because I was up for an Academy Award. And they asked about, "How is Angie?" And I said, "Well, she just got the baby today. So I guess that makes me a grandfather." I mean, you know, I was happy for her.

ZAHN: When Jolie didn't respond, Voight tried to reach her by appearing on "Access Hollywood" and "Inside Edition."

GOLD: He went in front of the press and said that she was suffering from psychological problems, and was unfit, was unbalanced. And, obviously, she was livid. If there was any chance of a relationship, it ended right there.

VOIGHT: When I was on "Access Hollywood," and obviously deeply emotionally distraught, she used that against me. She used everything -- you know, she turned everything against me. She indicated that I was looking for publicity. Holy smokes.

ZAHN: Jolie would not talk to CNN about personal relationships, but she did release a statement: "I have no anger towards my father. I simply don't know him. My son has never met him. And I'm doing my best at this to focus on a healthy life. I wish my father well."

Source: http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0506/10/pzn.01.html
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Old January 22nd, 2007, 03:50 PM   #24 (permalink)
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She had no contact with him growing up, apparently his wish -- isn't it a bit much to expect that she should welcome him publicly with open arms? How many of us would do the same?

These are complex issues. I, for one, hope she does eventually resolve her issues with him but that is HER business.
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Old January 22nd, 2007, 04:22 PM   #25 (permalink)
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What crap, I actually give kudos to Angelina for avoiding a potentially nasty confrontation. Most people would do this, only someone who was looking for trouble would go to the same restaurant.

I also noticed that this news story used the word 'SIREN' to describe Angelina- I do not need any more evidence that the new york post drug blind was about her!
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Old January 22nd, 2007, 04:36 PM   #26 (permalink)
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Kind of long, but it's mainly about the page 6 blind item:
http://www.laineygossip.com/ArticleList.aspx?ID=5626

Us Weekly laid claim to the official confirmation this week: Brad and Angelina have bought a home in New Orleans, the French Quarter, and are said to be enrolling their children into local schools, making a permanent move away from LA to The Big Easy.

Warning: Gloat ahead. Stop reading if you can’t stand it…but didn’t you know that already?

As I first reported exclusively back in November the decision had been made as Brad’s involvement with the green housing project became more pronounced. In regards to the kids and their education, again January 3rd, I reported on the schools that were being considered: St George’s Episcopal and Audubon Montessori.

But enough smug, on to the smut and the editorial I promised on the Page Six blind item. Many, many, many of you have written to follow up, sorry for the delay - travel, awards, trying to stay warm in Park City. Still, the extra few days gave me more time to get some more information…recap below.

First a refresher on the Page Six Blind Item – a humanitarian who hooked up with a rock star friend in LA 5 months ago and got strung out on heroin. At the time, when only the item came out, I wrote that it sounded to me to be more Pam Anderson than Angelina Jolie.

Humanitarian: Pam is AIDs spokesperson for MAC Cosmetics, hardcore party rumours for years, contracted Hep C, commonly infected through needles, a long list of rock star connections…and of course, you have to admit, the girl looks bunk-f*ckin’ ROUGH.

However, in a subsequent column about Marilyn Manson two days later, screwed up in his own right, there was a mention of Marilyn’s friendship with Angelina, followed by the online dissemination of photos of a painting he created of her with nails popping out of her arm, which naturally led many to conclude that the heroin-using humanitarian is none other than Mrs Pitt herself, especially since she’s so thin and walks around pouting and reminding you of that Deep, Dark, Harrowing Past.

First of all, I have no idea if that is indeed the answer behind their mystery. It’s their blind item, not mine. I’m not sure how they go about giving clues and I’m not sure whether or not they deliberately drop red herrings to divert from the real culprit. All I can tell you is what is told to me about Angelina’s behaviour and the observation coming from my own sources.

Is she weird? Yes. Is she demanding? Yes. Can she be a bitch? Hell yes. Has she had a troubled past? Absolutely. Did she make out with her brother? Uh huh. Did she use heroin in the past? Rumoured to, yes. Was she headed for self destruction not too long ago, pre-Maddox? Obvious and admittedly so.

But seriously y’all. The Pitts might be courting the media and they might do it very well but have you ever for a second characterised Angelina Jolie as America’s Goth Sweetheart and Favourite Homemaker?

Please.

The girl is a badass. She looks better with blood dripping from her lips and her neck than she does in a bikini sunbathing in Malibu. Angelina Jolie was Lindsay Lohan BEFORE Lindsay Lohan – a dysfunctional family, a dangerous and wild past, and the anti-everything that glossy Hollywood usually peddles.

In recent years however, since Maddox, since ditching BBT, since becoming involved with the United Nations, Angelina Jolie has said that she’s become a new person – the kind of person who no longer hurts herself, Earth Mother and Mother Theresa, saving the world one adoption at a time, criticising Madonna, pissing off the MiniVan Majority, playing perfect wife to Brad Pitt, shunning Hollywood and the luxe life.

According to the anti-Angelina movement however, the façade is starting to crack. According to some, Angelina is too f&cked up to be this mentally stable and too strong willed to be tied down and she buys babies and she hates The Chosen One and is going to ruin her baby’s life and now…courtesy of Page Six, she’s shooting up.

Because heroin is apparently so benign one can use it casually without fear of addiction. Because she supposedly used to be an addict and she fell off the wagon and when you fall off the wagon after a serious addiction, it is actually possible to have the self control to avoid the feast or famine syndrome, only using occasionally without affecting your work life and family life and self destructing all over again. Because that’s how addiction works? Because that’s how harmless heroin can be?

Okay. Sure. Why not?

But take this for what it’s worth – even though she’s absolutely freaky and manipulative and calculating and bitchy, even though she’s all those things, I absolutely agree – according to my sources, Angelina Jolie is not using heroin.

Angelina Jolie is a Goodwill Ambassador for the UN. Representatives of the UN are expected to go through medical procedures like immunisation and drug testing before and after missions on a regular basis. As you know, a Goodwill Ambassador is responsible for drawing attention to important issues advocated by the UN, Angelina’s star has certainly helped the organisation in the few years she’s been involved. And of course the UN is happy with the relationship, so long as her celebrity and her actions do not jeopardise the message and the work.

Which is why she, like all employees and representatives of the UN, is tested and tested often. Which is why I hear she has never been observed to be engaging in behaviour that would compromise the organisation. Which is why she hasn’t yet been fired. Which is why there hasn’t been a carefully worded statement announcing her intention to step back from her duties because she needs more time to care for her children.

If that were to happen, perhaps the suspicions might be founded.

Right now however I’m told she passes each drug test with flying colours. But then again, you are welcome to draw your own conclusions about cleverly avoiding detection. Conspiracy, coincidence, conspiracy, coincidence.

As for her body and her behaviour at the Golden Globes: does she exhibit signs of a junkie? Is she bored with Brad? Was she fidgety? Did she hate being there? Is she a smug ass bitch who can’t be bothered to speak to people?

I spoke with the always delightful Nelson Branco who had the privilege of being inside the ballroom that night, seated behind Kyra Sedgwick. Nelson is a writer for TV Guide and In Touch, a ‘Mo of course, and therefore as catty as they come and deliciously so, with the trademark gay man’s eye for detail and observation and a nose for the dirtiest smut ever, especially the kind barely noticeable to some, but absolutely 100% obvious to a Queen.

According to Nelson, the Pitts were lovely, Angelina did not leave the table once, she is extremely calm, she was engaged and chatty with her tablemates, she and Brad sipped water all night, they sat close together, and she is thin but not disgustingly so.

Nelson also said that Matthew Perry was nuzzling the neck and kissing the shoulder of his co-star Sarah Paulson who has had a longterm lesbian relationship with Cherry Jones for years…weird, non? Sorry, I digress. But I’m kind of bored now. Editorial over.
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Old January 22nd, 2007, 04:45 PM   #27 (permalink)
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As I suspected, this latest crap about Angie is ALL bullshit.
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Old January 22nd, 2007, 04:47 PM   #28 (permalink)
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I cant believe how much people read into the woman, for christs sake. One things for sure, shes a hell of alot more intriguing than Jennifer Aniston.
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Old January 22nd, 2007, 04:54 PM   #29 (permalink)
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I heard that the site is team Angelina, so I'm dismissing this as another attempt to spread the word in favor of Angelina. Nice that some negative remarks were added for effect.
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Old January 22nd, 2007, 04:57 PM   #30 (permalink)
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Believe what you will, but Lainey has a proven track record with the truth. There are many stars that she likes and dislikes, but that never stops her from calling them on their shit. I can provide examples if need be.
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