Angelina Jolie hopes to adopt baby that fits with other kids. - Page 7

SlimandSexxy · June 20th, 2006, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Karizma

Yeah i pretty much expected to hear that from you when you said 'kids inside wedlock'.

I'm good, well tired from work that's why i choose not to get into round 100 with you

how are you?

Hahahaha, I feel you. I'm good, been swamped all day, had to come in for my daily Kari fix you know......

Karizma · June 20th, 2006, 01:33 PM

i know i know

KD · June 20th, 2006, 01:38 PM

Of course I am trying to figure ^^^this out. Kari is pro virginity so she can't be having a baby, right? Inquiring minds want to know!!

Karizma · June 20th, 2006, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by KD

Of course I am trying to figure ^^^this out. Kari is pro virginity so she can't be having a baby, right? Inquiring minds want to know!!

LMAO

No i meant pro-virginity until marriage

KD · June 20th, 2006, 01:55 PM

Well, DUH! What fun would that be then!!

Palermo · June 20th, 2006, 01:57 PM

The thing that makes it odd to me is she hasn't even had her stitches out yet and she's talking about getting another baby? That does not sound normal in any sense of the word. Maybe she's the greatest mother on earth, but my own opinion is this: the more you have the less attention you have for each one. I agree with whoever said she gets bored easily and constantly has to have something "going on", whether it be travelling around the world, looking for another baby etc. How about letting the three that are already here establish a routine, get to know the rest of their family members etc.

Karizma · June 20th, 2006, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by KD

Well, DUH! What fun would that be then!!

Really, you think it's no fun? i think the only fun about it is when two inexperienced people get together and can never judge eachother's ability to *perform* so it's all good

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Originally Posted by Palermo

The thing that makes it odd to me is she hasn't even had her stitches out yet and she's talking about getting another baby? That does not sound normal in any sense of the word. Maybe she's the greatest mother on earth, but my own opinion is this: the more you have the less attention you have for each one. I agree with whoever said she gets bored easily and constantly has to have something "going on", whether it be travelling around the world, looking for another baby etc. How about letting the three that are already here establish a routine, get to know the rest of their family members etc.

ITA, but let's wait and see the interview. maybe she is talking about the future not tomorrow or the next couple of months. Didn't she said she will adopt right after she adopted Maddox and it turned out she waited for 4 good years? But also she was single. i think and hope she means the next year.

KD · June 20th, 2006, 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Karizma

Really, you think it's no fun? i think the only fun about it is when two inexperienced people get together and can never judge eachother's ability to *perform* so it's all good

????? I meant what fun would be getting married and still be pro-virginity! I am all for pro-virginity.

Karizma · June 20th, 2006, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by KD

????? I meant what fun would be getting married and still be pro-virginity! I am all for pro-virginity.

ah lol, sorry i didn't get you the first time

Appollonia · June 20th, 2006, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by powerorchid

I have 3 children, 2 of them are under 5 and if i had the means, (nanny, cleaner etc) my dream would be to adopt a chinese baby girl. I have looked into it many times. But unfortunately life is very busy and stressful with toddlers and to be able to do this and still stay sane (for me - i know others who can cope) i would need help. Angelina has that help available so why not?

But of course its probably just a hobby for angelina because its not something you would want to do.

Why is it your dream to adopt a baby girl from China?

Karizma · June 20th, 2006, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Appollonia

Why is it your dream to adopt a baby girl from China?

I have four children--5, 3, and 10 month old twins--and I can tell you right now that I haven't even entertained the thought of having more kids anytime soon because all my time, energy, and love is directed on my family. After I had the twins, all I could think about were my babies. Ten months later, all I can think about are the kids I have now, not kids I might like to have someday or having a more "balanced" family.

My husband and I've always said we wanted more than one child and we're open to having more kids but not soon. Are you kidding me? I have lots of help--nanny, maid, family and friends willing to chip in--and we're by no means as rich as Angelina but also far from poor. You can't buy your kids more love and attention. Having another child just because we always wanted to have 5 kids or want to have another boy so our 3-year old can have a brother would be incredibly selfish because our children don't get enough of our time as it is even with me at home full time.

My point is that it's not just about having the means to carry out your dream of having a dozen kids from different countries. You can throw all your money at the kids, nannies, maids, chauffers, etc. but there's only one of you. Children need attention, love, guidance from their parents. A good mom would recognize when she's reached her limit. Angelina Jolie just gave birth less than a month ago not to mention the two very young children she already has and she's already talking about adopting and a "balanced" family. There's just something so self-centered and insincere about her adoption comments and I understand why she rubs so many people the wrong way. Something along the lines of, "I'd love to adopt another child from another country someday but I'm focused on my family right now" would've been fine.

I'm not sure why some people feel it's their job to defend Angelina Jolie. Who are you to her and what does she care?

I think the same question can be asked to those people who diss her. She rubs some in the wrong way, but she also rubs others in a very positive way. Anyway i think for most people it's not about her as much as its about their inner convinction and dissing/defending her is more about defending/dissing certain topic they feel strongly about or at least that's how i think about it

I know 'Shiloh' is not even a month old but she didn't say she will adopt tomorrow, she already said she will adopt again when she was pregnant in Davos so it's not a news. However this is a sincere question: why is it wrong to adopt another kid but it's perfectly fine to concieve one in such short time? Yes i'm taking Heidi Klum as an example.

moomies · June 20th, 2006, 03:41 PM

I also had a problem when someone mentioned adopting because of an interest in different culture/country. Children are born free of culture, just because the baby is of a certain ethnicity doesn't mean you'll get to raise him/her differently from your other kids by its original cultural lifestyle. And it sounds wrong to me to adopt just because you are interested in a foreign culture. You don't have to involve kids to satiate your interest. You can learn foreign languages, study about other countries. I mean if you are going to adopt, you'll be removing that child from its birth culture anyways so I don't understand or agree with this logic that you adopt from a foreign country because you are interested in their culture. Choosing a baby to adopt cuz you happen to like the culture that he/she is born into? That just means you are being selective and you won't be adopting children from cultures you don't like or ethnicities you don't like.

Here I'm gonna repeat what I said earlier

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Originally Posted by moomies

it sounds a little wrong to say that you adopt a child from a certain country because you are interested in the culture.
You don't have to involve adoption to satisfy your interest in cultures, you can study it without bringing a child into it IMO. And just because you adopt a child from a different country, doesn't mean that you will be able to raise the child as he/she would be raised in their own birth country.

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Originally Posted by Somerset

Um, how can you be a genuinely good mother if you pick your kids based on ethnicity or nationality? Like Barbara said, it's basically eugenics for adoption.

I totally agree.

PrettyGirl · June 20th, 2006, 04:16 PM

I really don't see what's the big deal. Why is it okay to have numerous husbands or lovers and that's somehow okay...but when a woman chooses to love and want to mother more than one child it's somehow strange? Why did you marry a black man? Why did you date an Asian man? Why did you have sex with a latino man? Why did you eat Chinese food today? Why did you take that trip to Mexico last year? In fact, why are you buying that Italian handbag? Do you have some fascination or fixation with those cultures? Do you think every person we ever chose to love or every action we ever did that included a different culture was somehow calculating? Do you think we're all motived because of some sick fetish? Do you think that because we admire a certain culture or look to those locations, it means we're sick? Children are children--it doesn't matter where they come from. We live on a PLANET. Angelina Jolie and any other person who wants to adopt has the option of picking a child from whatever country she wants...just like any woman who's ever had a child or ever gotten pregnant also chooses who to have intercourse with in order to conceive that child.

If Angelina Jolie searches the globe to complete her family so what? What's worse, picking the man who's sperm is going to fertilize your egg? Because that's in essence what we do. If you marry, you are choosing to have your husband be the father of your children. You chose him. You're choosing him to be the one to give you the seed. Even if you had a baby from a boyfriend, guess what, you chose to sleep with him knowing full well, you could have a child and you did. It's always a choice. For the most part women choose what child the want whether they want to admit it or not. You may not know how it will look, you may not know if it's going to be a boy or a girl, but you're choosing it's ethnicity and it's background--you're picking what you want too!

Do you know how many people have 3 or 4 kids in a row? A lot. My aunt got married and have 4 kids in 5 years. I have co-workers here who have 3 or 4 kids back to back. I have friends who are married and decided right off the bat, "I'm having a big family" and they pop kids out every year or two. It is not that strange. Angelina Jolie has 3 kids---it's not like she has 16. If she wants to have 4 or 5 kids in her lifetime that's up to her. I know that if I had money, I'd looooove to have 4 or 5 kids. But I don't have the resources, nor the financial capability to do that. But I don't knock anyone who can. Some women can't handle 1 kid. But some women can easily handle 3 or 4. Just because you can't don't assume someone else can't.

People have kids when they're ready. People have kids when they want them. If I were a woman who couldn't have children, you better believe I'd adopt kids and adopt them close together. When you're in your 30's you want to be a young mother. If people don't like it they can turn the other way. At the end of the day you're not the one changing the diapers nor providing for those kids.

ediebrooks · June 20th, 2006, 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by powerorchid

I have 3 children, 2 of them are under 5 and if i had the means, (nanny, cleaner etc) my dream would be to adopt a chinese baby girl. I have looked into it many times. But unfortunately life is very busy and stressful with toddlers and to be able to do this and still stay sane (for me - i know others who can cope) i would need help. Angelina has that help available so why not?

But of course its probably just a hobby for angelina because its not something you would want to do.

You don't know what I want to do or don't want to do, so how about minding your own business?

AliceInWonderland · June 20th, 2006, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SlimandSexxy

I actually doubt that she's going to be a good mom to these kids. She's already starting to sound biased with the "fit in with my adopted kids bit". This woman is a nutcase, leave it at that. It's funny because when her dad said she had mental problems, everyone brushed him off, and if I remember she also said it herself that she had mental problems. I think this phase/adoption obsession is another manifestation of her issues. Like I said, when it all comes crashing down, we'll all be standing on the side lines watching the crash.

good points.