July 17th, 2007, 01:40 AM
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Hopefully, Isaiah won't blow this job. But after the way he's been shooting his mouth off I'm surprised he found something as quick as he did.
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July 17th, 2007, 01:53 AM
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I try to have sympathy for Mister Washington, but I simply cannot bring myself even feel any respect towards him. He is a bigot, and I hope his show fails.
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July 17th, 2007, 08:00 AM
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another show i wont be watching now.
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July 17th, 2007, 10:56 AM
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Well, at least someone got over the fact he said something nasty like 99.99 percent of the people on this planet.
If it's good, I will watch it. Why not? Now, if only he can keep his mouth shut!
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July 17th, 2007, 10:58 AM
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Yeah, cuz you know it's only a career ender if you say nigger or kike.. 'faggot' is still perfectly acceptable.
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July 17th, 2007, 11:05 AM
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FFS, "n" and "k" have been ABUSED in the media and some are still using "n" more than the words "I" and "the". Have you ever watched a Tarantino film? Exactly. That is ok, right?
He didn't say it in public in the original altercation. It was said on a closed set. "N" is used in open media forums all day every day. "K" is archaic and hardly ever used in common vernacular.
Do not state your inferences as facts about what I know. What I do know from your posts is that you have absolutely no problem with using the "n" and "k" word in them, but get upset with "f". Should I infer that while "f" offends you, you are totally comfortable with "n" and "k"? If that were to be the case, that would be a bit hypocritical, wouldn't it?
Nowhere did I say any of those words were acceptable, nor did I imply that. I agreed that his actions which expedited Knight's coming out were wrong. People make mistakes. It happens.
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July 17th, 2007, 11:33 AM
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No, I'm using them to illustrate a point and I'm using them in a context that is not insulting or degading to anybody in particular. I'm not using them as vitriol or as a means to harm someone, but just as terms.
Secondly, i wasn't talking about YOU. I was talking about the situation as it stands.
A white guy saying "nigger" (a la michael richards) in an insulting context is pretty much dead in the water.
Same as anybody non jewish using "kike".
but hey, a straight guy can use "faggot" and barely anybody blinks an eye.
THAT is the situation.
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July 17th, 2007, 11:49 AM
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More gays should open their mouths and speak out. Others have fought for decades to make strides.
When gays hide in the closet and don't become more vocal about the offensive behavior, it actually gives the illusion that being gay is wrong and shameful, which of course it is not. Speak out.
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July 17th, 2007, 12:03 PM
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Uh, the fact that we've come this far means we haven't shut up but we're still VASTLY outnumbered. We don't hold the kind of sway the black or jewish lobby does, but we're getting there.
I just hope when the time comes, it doesn't go too far like the rabidly pro-israel lobbies or Rev. Al Sharpton and his racist nonsense.
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July 17th, 2007, 12:34 PM
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Al Sharpton is just a loudmouth famewhore. He is a hatemonger.
As for the progression of gay rights, I am sure it will happen one day. There are many straights who work against prejudice too.
Again, I did not say the gays have shut up. I said more should open their mouths. Of course gays are outnumbered, hence the terminology minority.
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July 17th, 2007, 12:35 PM
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When have you known gays NOT to be loudmouthed, attitude filled bitches
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July 17th, 2007, 12:37 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Grimmlok
No, I'm using them to illustrate a point and I'm using them in a context that is not insulting or degading to anybody in particular. I'm not using them as vitriol or as a means to harm someone, but just as terms.
Secondly, i wasn't talking about YOU. I was talking about the situation as it stands.
A white guy saying "nigger" (a la michael richards) in an insulting context is pretty much dead in the water.
Same as anybody non jewish using "kike".
but hey, a straight guy can use "faggot" and barely anybody blinks an eye.
THAT is the situation.
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Grimm, you know that's not the case, we have heard about this whole incident for MONTHS on end now. Him saying f*ggot got WAY more press than Michael Richards, Imus or Mel Gibson.
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July 17th, 2007, 12:44 PM
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This is the ONLY time, hell it could be the first time that it got any kind of prominence.. and mostly cuz someone would le it be swept under the carpet.
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July 17th, 2007, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Grimmlok
Uh, the fact that we've come this far means we haven't shut up but we're still VASTLY outnumbered. We don't hold the kind of sway the black or jewish lobby does, but we're getting there.
I just hope when the time comes, it doesn't go too far like the rabidly pro-israel lobbies or Rev. Al Sharpton and his racist nonsense.
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I see the point that you're trying to make, but the reason why the black and jewish lobby, as you put it, hold more sway is because the words nigger and kike have historically been around far longer and both groups have been battling for rights longer than gays have.
And, true, while you have militant blacks and jews who shoot their mouths off, you also have militant gays like Rosie O'Donnell who shoot their mouths off too.
Now I'm not trying to make it into a which group has suffered more debate. But like RIS said if gays want to have the same impact when it comes to the word faggot then they have to step up and let their voices be heard a lot more. But like blacks and jews you have to use the power of the dollar and boycott to get your point across. Back during the 60's blacks were united, for the most part, in large numbers and went after our civil rights. Gays have to follow suit.
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