John Voight wants to see his granddaughter

moomies · June 6th, 2006, 02:58 AM

Voight to end Jolie rift

05/06/2006 2:29:00 PM

Angelina Jolie's estranged father John Voight is desperate to heal their ongoing rift so he can see his new granddaughter.

(BANG) - Angelina Jolie's estranged father is desperate to heal their rift so he can hold his new granddaughter in his arms.

Oscar-winner Jon Voight claims he has been trying to reach his daughter - who hasn't spoken to him since he accused her of having "mental problems" in 2002 - since baby Shiloh Nouvel was born a week ago.
Angelina and boyfriend Brad Pitt are still in Namibia with their new arrival and the actress' two adopted children, four-year-old Maddox and 16-month-old Zahara.
Voight, 67, said: "I'm always trying to reach her. I wish someone would help."

The actor has also appeared on American TV to congratulate Angelina and Brad.
He told NBC's Rita Cosby: "I'm almost unable to describe how deeply happy I am for her and so happy to have this new little one in the world.

"I can just think that one day, I'll just say, 'Hey Shi, come over here'. This little one can have anything she wants of me, of course. As she grows older, hopefully, I'll be able to give her everything that I've got."

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DVS_one · June 6th, 2006, 08:26 AM

oh please!!

he can wait for the photos ... who says on national TV.. my kid is a mental case.. someone help her .... oh that is right jon voight ...

burnt_toast · June 6th, 2006, 09:00 AM

It always pisses me off when shitty parents suddenly want to make things right so they can have a relationship with the grandkids. First of all, he wasn't too concerned when Zahara was adopted (at least I don't remember reading this kind of plea for help) ... and secondly, if he's a shitty dad why in the world would Angie want her daughter around him.

Bah, shut up John. Odds are good it ain't gonna' happen.

Tamsdrums · June 6th, 2006, 09:17 AM

and what about her other children??? are they not good enough for him to fuss over as well Please another feeble attempt at attention for a man who BLEW IT with his own children

tams

southernbelle · June 6th, 2006, 10:05 AM

If their rift was caused by him saying she has mental problems, I don't really blame him. Her actions at that time were very disturbing and, in my opinion, a cry for that kind of attention and help. I've never had a good relationship with my father, but when I have kids, if they want him to be a part of their lives, I'm not going to stand in the way of that. If there is another reason that I'm not aware of, such as abuse, it's a different story, but I think this is largely Angelina trying to punish Jon Voight for embarrassing her by calling her out on her perverse and bizarre former lifestyle, and she shouldn't drag her kids into it.

As for the other children, I remember him saying he wanted a relationship with Maddox. I guess Angelina refused to permit that, too. I don't know about Zahara.

Lobelia · June 6th, 2006, 10:16 AM

Even if one does have mental problems, it would be quite off-putting to have one's father announce it to the public. Then again, if one wears blood & smooches one's brother, embarrassment is probably defined differently than the average person.

Lakesweetjane · June 6th, 2006, 10:31 AM

Angelina is spoiled rotten. It's her way or no way at all. She was incredibly screwed up then.
You can also see when you look at pictures of her and Brad that everything has to be to her specifications and to hell with everyone else.

Apparently he has been trying since her first adoption to see the children. She doesn't have to have a relationship with him, just let him say hello. My mother didn't get along with her father but I was still able to get to know him - to which I am greatful!
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Tenaj · June 6th, 2006, 10:40 AM

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Even if one does have mental problems, it would be quite off-putting to have one's father announce it to the public. .

Exactly the point I was going to make. Surely there is another way to get in touch with her than getting the whole world involved.

Mookie · June 6th, 2006, 10:50 AM

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Exactly the point I was going to make. Surely there is another way to get in touch with her than getting the whole world involved.

*devil's advocate* maybe he tried that and going public was his last resort?

southernbelle · June 6th, 2006, 10:52 AM

I got the impression that he had tried and was rejected. She refused to let him help her. I think he was desperate to save her from the downward spiral she was in, and he thought that appealing to the media or to the public was the only hope. We learned in my sociology class last semester that with some individuals, publicly shaming them is the only way to get them to acknowledge that they have a problem. And obviously in her case it worked. She started to deny that she had problems, and turned her life around to prove that his claims weren't true. I'm sure it hurt him as a parent to do it, but I really do think it was in her best interest.

burnt_toast · June 6th, 2006, 10:55 AM

I can only speak for myself - but if my parent aired any of my dirty laundry in a public forum (especially if I was famous and as dependent on my image as Angie is), I'd be BEYOND pissed. Good intentions be damned, there are some things you just don't do.

southernbelle · June 6th, 2006, 10:58 AM

I think she aired her own dirty laundry when she made out with her brother and declared that she "wanted to be a vampire."

burnt_toast · June 6th, 2006, 10:59 AM

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I think she aired her own dirty laundry when she made out with her brother and declared that she "wanted to be a vampire."

Yeah, but it's her laundry to air - not his.

Lakesweetjane · June 6th, 2006, 01:21 PM

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Yeah, but it's her laundry to air - not his.

I think it was a final desperate plee. I too would be pissed, but to disown for life? I just think that is punishing the children and its selfish. He may not have been the best dad but he might be the best grandfather!
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MrsDark · June 6th, 2006, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Tamsdrums

and what about her other children??? are they not good enough for him to fuss over as well Please another feeble attempt at attention for a man who BLEW IT with his own children

tams

That was my first thought too Tams! Pathetic.

I remember there was a time when she briefly reconciled with him...about the time he ended up in the first tomb raider movie (as Lara Croft's dead dad) so it would appear that this was tried and it didn't work out. My guess is that if she were not an actress and was a *nobody* that he wouldn't give as much of a shit. We're obviously not talking about a real parent/grandparent here. He's just curious to see what another generation bearing his genes looks like. Sorry but wearing a blood vial, brother kissing for publicity and fucking Silly Bob in the back of a limo on the way to a premiere when you're young and single isn't anywhere near as bad as being a shitty excuse for a dad. I guess kids growing up without both parents when one person decides they're tired of responsibility is so common now that people are willing to give Jon Voight a pass.